Off Topic Thread 4.0

Burkie1203

stephen_n wrote: »

On a human level I really hope he is alright and also his pregnant partner is reportedly sick too.

UK is in bad way

Boris in hospital

Scottish CMO resigns for ignoring her own guidelines

People in large enough numbers ignoring social distancing

swiwi_

RIP Pussy Galore

No doubt the inspiration for Austin Powers and Alotta Fagina.

Panda Killa

Can someone please slap him

Bazzo

Boris has been moved to intensive care now...

mfceiling

Bazzo wrote: »

Boris has been moved to intensive care now...

Trying to remember if this is the same guy who said he had visited people in hospital with the virus and had shaken hands with them.

Bazzo

Bazzo wrote: »

Boris has been moved to intensive care now...

I hope he pulls through.

Statistically he's in quite a bit of peril now unless this is an over reaction given his profile.

I find it hard to be sympathetic however. His handling of this crisis has ranged from deeply incompetent to genuinely callous. The early downplaying, insisting on shaking peoples hands and failing to ramp up effectively will cost many many lives that could have been saved. His continued attempts to point score against the EU whilst pathetic is also incredibly damaging and the overall response of the Tory party to covid19 is an integral part of why so, so many in the UK just aren't taking this seriously.

I hope he pulls through but I also hope he has to answer for all the damage he has done these last few years.

Dave_The_Sheep

Deleted User wrote: »

but I also hope he has to answer for all the damage he has done these last few years.

We both know that won't happen.

But yes, on a human level it's hard to wish anything other than survival for him, as much as one might detest him politically (and as a person).

Dave_The_Sheep

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

We both know that won't happen.

But yes, on a human level it's hard to wish anything other than survival for him, as much as one might detest him politically (and as a person).

I don't care for him politically because his ideology is defined by spreadsheets and voting patterns and not personal beliefs.

On a human level he is a dishonest, manipulative, entitled, elitist scumbag with strong sociopathic tendencies and a serious case of cultural supremacy.

The absolutely last person a country would want to rely on for leadership at a time like this and worse still there is no one better to replace him in the party as the reasonable and capable people got the boot a few months back.


Jesus what a mess.

swiwi_

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't care for him politically because his ideology is defined by spreadsheets and voting patterns and not personal beliefs.

On a human level he is a dishonest, manipulative, entitled, elitist scumbag with strong sociopathic tendencies and a serious case of cultural supremacy.

The absolutely last person a country would want to rely on for leadership at a time like this. But there is no one better to replace him in the party as the reasonable and capable people got the boot a few months back.

You really have a thing against him Venjur. I find it a bit weird given he’s the prime minister of the UK and not Ireland but you’ve fairly rolled out the vitriol over the last few months. He’s strikes me as political as the next politician. I’m struggling to see that he is somehow significantly more dastardly than your average politician.

IMHO he’s probably pretty sick. There’s been barely a squeak out of him recently and I’d say he’s in worse condition then let on.

irishbucsfan

swiwi_ wrote: »

You really have a thing against him Venjur. I find it a bit weird given he’s the prime minister of the UK and not Ireland but you’ve fairly rolled out the vitriol over the last few months. He’s strikes me as political as the next politician. I’m struggling to see that he is somehow significantly more dastardly than your average politician.

IMHO he’s probably pretty sick. There’s been barely a squeak out of him recently and I’d say he’s in worse condition then let on.

There's loads of examples of it but conspiring to have a journalist beaten up is definitely beyond the pale for your average politician

Bazzo

swiwi_ wrote: »

You really have a thing against him Venjur. I find it a bit weird given he’s the prime minister of the UK and not Ireland but you’ve fairly rolled out the vitriol over the last few months. He’s strikes me as political as the next politician. I’m struggling to see that he is somehow significantly more dastardly than your average politician.

IMHO he’s probably pretty sick. There’s been barely a squeak out of him recently and I’d say he’s in worse condition then let on.

Nah Boris is objectively a pretty ****ty person disregarding his politics. I wouldn't wish ill, and particularly this illness, on anyone though so hopefully he pulls through and he has some new perspective on the other side.

swiwi_

swiwi_ wrote: »

You really have a thing against him Venjur. I find it a bit weird given he’s the prime minister of the UK and not Ireland but you’ve fairly rolled out the vitriol over the last few months. He’s strikes me as political as the next politician. I’m struggling to see that he is somehow significantly more dastardly than your average politician.

IMHO he’s probably pretty sick. There’s been barely a squeak out of him recently and I’d say he’s in worse condition then let on.

I have huge disdain for what is being done to the British population since 2016 and Boris is at the core of that. I think he is politically malignant and his recent game playing over the EU ventilation scheme tells me that he values good optics more than he does public health.

I've plenty of friends and family in England so my vitriol is more out of indirect concern for them than anything else.

The man is a disgrace of a human being and whist I hope he pulls through there are plenty of better people who won't and he will be responsible for quite a few of them.

swiwi_

I suppose I don’t follow the character of UK politicians that closely to have in-depth opinions.

As an aside, I’m not personally hearing that hydroxychloriquine is a wonder drug. It might make a small difference, I doubt it’s the panacea.

Burkie1203

swiwi_ wrote: »

You really have a thing against him Venjur. I find it a bit weird given he’s the prime minister of the UK and not Ireland but you’ve fairly rolled out the vitriol over the last few months. He’s strikes me as political as the next politician. I’m struggling to see that he is somehow significantly more dastardly than your average politician.

IMHO he’s probably pretty sick. There’s been barely a squeak out of him recently and I’d say he’s in worse condition then let on.

He boasted about shaking hands in hospitals when every other country was banging the social distancing drum

He allowed Cheltenham to happen

3000 athletico fans travelled from Madrid to Liverpool that same week as Cheltenham.

PL football only got canned when players and managers started to get covid19

He is a fool. A complete and utter clown who endanged millions of lives and is responsible for thousands of deaths already.

That said I genuinely hope he pulls through. He is a human being.


The only person I would wish I'll of is that O'doherty kunt. Out harassing Gardai doing their duty and assisting the public.

Squidgy Black

I'll be honest, I've little sympathy for him, purely for the way he went around the whole thing by insisting on shaking hands with patients and insisting he would continue to do so.

No more than if someone told me that people going out and flouting the isolation rules by having parties or visiting friends etc caught it. It's completely his own fault through pig-headedness.

swiwi_

pickarooney

Would we all be OK with Rees-Mogg dying roaring in agony?

swiwi_

I'd find it hard to get up any sympathy for Trump (older people might be happy to sacrifice themselves so the economy can get back on track :rolleyes: - the irony being that trump is very much in the "older people" group). Other than that, I don't really enjoy anyone being gravely ill, even if I wouldn't have any affinity for them.

Bazzo

swiwi_ wrote: »

I'd find it hard to get up any sympathy for Trump (older people might be happy to sacrifice themselves so the economy can get back on track :rolleyes: - the irony being that trump is very much in the "older people" group). Other than that, I don't really enjoy anyone being gravely ill, even if I wouldn't have any affinity for them.

Presume you missed Boris' lead advisor, supposed string puller and all around dirt bag Dominic Cummings' alleged comment about "protecting the economy and if a few pensioners die then so be it"

Dave_The_Sheep

Anyone else here on Virgin broadband and found the service has gone to **** the last few days? Websites taking an ages to load, unable to sign into things like Steam for ages, etc. It's like being back watching porn on dialup, waiting for the image to de-pixellate.

FACECUTTR

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Anyone else here on Virgin broadband and found the service has gone to **** the last few days? Websites taking an ages to load, unable to sign into things like Steam for ages, etc. It's like being back watching porn on dialup, waiting for the image to de-pixellate.

Yes it has been poor. Almost totally freezing sometimes.

errlloyd

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Anyone else here on Virgin broadband and found the service has gone to **** the last few days? Websites taking an ages to load, unable to sign into things like Steam for ages, etc. It's like being back watching porn on dialup, waiting for the image to de-pixellate.

Mine has been mostly fine wired. I've had to restart the router about once a week for WiFi.

aloooof

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Anyone else here on Virgin broadband and found the service has gone to **** the last few days? Websites taking an ages to load, unable to sign into things like Steam for ages, etc. It's like being back watching porn on dialup, waiting for the image to de-pixellate.

Generally been fine here too; noticeable pixelation on Netflix over the last number of evenings, but fine other than that.

vienne86

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Anyone else here on Virgin broadband and found the service has gone to **** the last few days? Websites taking an ages to load, unable to sign into things like Steam for ages, etc. It's like being back watching porn on dialup, waiting for the image to de-pixellate.

No problem with me either. Rebooting the router is something I do every now and then anyway, but I'm not having to do it any more than usual.

connemara man

Mines been dropping out and slowing up big time.

Mainly in the evenings, which is great with 3 WFH

Clegg

I'm glad Tubridy has recovered.

Some people don't like him, but I found his LLS appearances over the last month to be rather reassuring. A lot of people needed that.

Dave_The_Sheep

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Anyone else here on Virgin broadband and found the service has gone to **** the last few days? Websites taking an ages to load, unable to sign into things like Steam for ages, etc. It's like being back watching porn on dialup, waiting for the image to de-pixellate.

I ran a speed test there, it is going at its rated speed of 500mbps (that is a wired connection rather than wireless). Haven't had any dropouts or anything.

mfceiling

We recently got a new virgin router which replaced the horizon box. If we had replaced the horizon box with a gerbil going round a wheel, which in turn drove a small turbine which some how powered a kind of steam driven router then it still would have been an improvement.

Dave_The_Sheep

Sloane Nutritious Ham wrote: »

I ran a speed test there, it is going at its rated speed of 500mbps (that is a wired connection rather than wireless). Haven't had any dropouts or anything.

As an example, I wasn't even able to run a speed test last night because the test kept erroring out as it wasn't able to make a connection in time.

Things are OK this morning, so far. Happening on two PCs but less so on my phone and not at all on my laptop (though that has a VPN on it which may be affecting things). Must test with my vpn on my main machine to see if that helps.

awec

Our virgin is spot on, no issues. And we’ve had Disney+ on the go for hours every day.

swiwi_

“The prime minister has been stable overnight and remains in good spirits. He is receiving standard oxygen treatment and breathing without any other assistance. He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support”

Which begs the question why isn’t he in the normal ward...?

Stheno

swiwi_ wrote: »

“The prime minister has been stable overnight and remains in good spirits. He is receiving standard oxygen treatment and breathing without any other assistance. He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support”

Which begs the question why isn’t he in the normal ward...?

Maybe it's an understatement?

Bazzo

swiwi_ wrote: »

“The prime minister has been stable overnight and remains in good spirits. He is receiving standard oxygen treatment and breathing without any other assistance. He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support”

Which begs the question why isn’t he in the normal ward...?

Yeah you can basically ignore all of the official reports coming out.

First they claimed he was feeling much better and soon after he was admitted to hospital.

Then they claimed he had just been admitted to run some tests and later said that he was feeling much better and in good spirits, and he was shortly after moved to ICU.

And now they're saying he's doing well and not on a ventilator...

swiwi_

The word we are looking for is disingenuous.

It’s clear they are telling porkies.

Squidgy Black

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

As an example, I wasn't even able to run a speed test last night because the test kept erroring out as it wasn't able to make a connection in time.

Things are OK this morning, so far. Happening on two PCs but less so on my phone and not at all on my laptop (though that has a VPN on it which may be affecting things). Must test with my vpn on my main machine to see if that helps.

Are the PCs wired or wireless? If anything a VPN would only slow down your network, it shouldn't slow things down.

The one thing I would probably suggest is do a DNS flush on the PCs and then if that doesn't work set your DNS to Google's settings (8.8.8.8), there was something similar happening to my grandparents Virgin a while back on their laptop

Squidgy Black

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Are the PCs wired or wireless? If anything a VPN would only slow down your network, it shouldn't slow things down.

The one thing I would probably suggest is do a DNS flush on the PCs and then if that doesn't work set your DNS to Google's settings (8.8.8.8), there was something similar happening to my grandparents Virgin a while back on their laptop

Does restarting the router essentially flush DNS?

Dave_The_Sheep

Squidgy Black wrote: »

The one thing I would probably suggest is do a DNS flush on the PCs and then if that doesn't work set your DNS to Google's settings (8.8.8.8), there was something similar happening to my grandparents Virgin a while back on their laptop

Aye, I flushed DNS alright. Ah I'll keep playing around with it and if I can't figure it out I'll get onto Virgin about it.

awec

If the worst happens to BoJo then the Brits will be looking for someone to blame, and we know who the US is going to blame, and international relations are going to be strained enough once this is all over.

My gf seems to be holding me personally responsible for not seeing each other right now. This is exhausting. We met in the park at a distance and we basically fought the whole time. Not sure why I'm posting here. It's been handy for a rant recently.

Buer

swiwi_ wrote: »

The word we are looking for is disingenuous.

It’s clear they are telling porkies.

Is it? I'd imagine Johnson would be moved into ICU far more quickly than the average person.

There are plenty of people who will be in the ICU and will see him. If he was on a ventilator, the creepy tabloids could surely coax the information from some underpaid staff member?

Buer

Buer wrote: »

Is it? I'd imagine Johnson would be moved into ICU far more quickly than the average person.

There are plenty of people who will be in the ICU and will see him. If he was on a ventilator, the creepy tabloids could surely coax the information from some underpaid staff member?

I was talking to the missus about this last night, she is a doctor herself, and reckons there is absolutely no point in moving him to ICU unless he's quite ill, i.e. needs to be ventilated or is at risk of some sort of organ failure. View was a precautionary move to ICU makes doesn't make any sense.

stephen_n

I just ran a Speedtest on my phone and got 10.7mbps down and 17mpbs up then immediately ran one on the laptop and got 131mbps down and 23mbps up. Normally the phone shows after speeds when I do that. Might be a router issue but it’s strange there can be such a difference just seconds apart.

Squidgy Black

I would've thought moving him to ICU prematurely or if it wasn't needed would've been a complete PR disaster given the strain the UK hospitals are under at the moment.

connemara man

Either he needs to be in ICU and the government are lying about it or he's taking up a bed that someone else needs.

Both situations aren't good TBH

b.gud

Deleted User wrote: »

My gf seems to be holding me personally responsible for not seeing each other right now. This is exhausting. We met in the park at a distance and we basically fought the whole time. Not sure why I'm posting here. It's been handy for a rant recently.

If I remember correctly I think you said your gf worked in the health industry, in which case she is, as I'm sure you are far more aware than I, under a huge deal of pressure so the fight is probably not about you but more about frustration with the situation in general.

I know that you probably know what I've said above already but sometimes when you're in the middle of it it can be hard to look at the bigger picture and getting a bit of reassurance from someone outside the situation is helpful, and necessary so don't be afraid to rant on here anytime

Bazzo

Buer wrote: »

Is it? I'd imagine Johnson would be moved into ICU far more quickly than the average person.

There are plenty of people who will be in the ICU and will see him. If he was on a ventilator, the creepy tabloids could surely coax the information from some underpaid staff member?

It would be utterly pointless. Either he needs a ventilator or he doesn't, if he doesn't there's no point in him being in the ICU, if his condition changes and he does he would not die in the time it would take to move him there.

Buer

Bazzo wrote: »

It would be utterly pointless. Either he needs a ventilator or he doesn't, if he doesn't there's no point in him being in the ICU, if his condition changes and he does he would not die in the time it would take to move him there.

I would imagine he doesn't need one (yet) but is in there on the basis of who he is and the need to ensure he has round the clock attention. He's obviously in a serious condition but are we not verging on conspiracy theory stuff i.e. Downing Street is lying about his condition?

Given you live in the UK and swiwi is a medical professional, you're both better placed to comment than I am but is it not jumping to conclusions somewhat?

CatFromHue

Deleted User wrote: »

We met in the park at a distance and we basically fought the whole time. Not sure why I'm posting here. It's been handy for a rant recently.

That's not how dogging works

Bazzo

Buer wrote: »

I would imagine he doesn't need one (yet) but is in there on the basis of who he is and the need to ensure he has round the clock attention. He's obviously in a serious condition but are we not verging on conspiracy theory stuff i.e. Downing Street is lying about his condition?

Given you live in the UK and swiwi is a medical professional, you're both better placed to comment than I am but is it not jumping to conclusions somewhat?

But Downing St have already blatantly lied about his condition multiple times...(without getting into the fact that lying about everything is the current government's MO)

The vast majority of ICUs nationwide are at capacity, especially in London. Likelihood is somebody would be bumped to move him there. He'll already be getting round the clock attention without having to be in the ICU, he's the PM.

vienne86

Clegg wrote: »

I'm glad Tubridy has recovered.

Some people don't like him, but I found his LLS appearances over the last month to be rather reassuring. A lot of people needed that.

Yes, nice to hear him back on the radio this morning. He talks a fair bit of sense all right and I think a fair few people have been glad of his calmness in the last while.