Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018 (MOD NOTE: POST #2805)

j8wk2feszrnpao

astradave wrote: »

What’s going on with Matip anyways, is it just Klopp trying to have VVD & Lovren together to allow VVD to settle in? Matip is miles better than Lovren

Matip hasn't been great either.
Today might mean that he gets a chance to play with VVD.

martyos121

Well I’m glad I missed all of that shît today.

A good breakfast in the morning will set us all back on track.

BorneTobyWilde

Bit naive in hindsight to go to Old Trafford and dominate possession and leave our defenders exposed. We should have sat in ourselves and played the chess game. We had 14 shots, nearly all bounced off of their players for 13 corners. The had a wall of bodies in front of goal.
To say we had an off day is stupid, we were up against the best team at sitting in. Simply was no space to exploit.
Should have played for the point and do to them what they did to us at Anfield.

mosstin

Harry Wilson's goal today. He's a smart player.

https://twitter.com/Channel5Sport/status/972528776637591552

After watching the MOTD highlights. Dejan Lovren. This guy simply has to go. Embarrassing against Lukaku (x2). Let Mata go as well for his overhead effort. Definite pen imo Fellaini on Mane.

Brego888

astradave wrote: »

What’s going on with Matip anyways, is it just Klopp trying to have VVD & Lovren together to allow VVD to settle in? Matip is miles better than Lovren

I don't agree. Lovren is no long term solution but he's not miles behind Matip. Matip is ordinary.

Harry Palmr

I'd play Klavan.

theoneeyedman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Definite pen imo Fellaini on Mane.

The incident where Young manhandled Salah was never mentioned.... Mustn't have happened at all.

Agent Coulson

TAA has Apologized on instagram.

He was at fault but the bigger fault was on Klopp for not seeing him under pressure and changing it up to protect him and I don’t think he needs to apologize especially on a cesspit like social media.



All footballers should be banned from social media till the day they retire.

AidoEirE

munstermagic11 wrote: »

And Matic for his use of the arm in about 50% of the challenges. Ridiculous the way he gets away with it. Valencia, with a dangerous challenge that even Neville said could have been red (a la Mane against City earlier in the season).
Pawson may not be biased, but he's incompetent in my book when you can't ref the basics of the game.

Didnt lovren bash mctominey i think it was at thr back of the head and go unpunished

AidoEirE

[Deleted User] wrote: »

After watching the MOTD highlights. Dejan Lovren. This guy simply has to go. Embarrassing against Lukaku (x2). Let Mata go as well for his overhead effort. Definite pen imo Fellaini on Mane.

Coulda been sent off off with the mctominey elbow back of the head and the double on fellani. He is a liability for ye to be fair

Grayditch

Here, anyone see Lovren do anything to a United player?

Trigger

Grayditch wrote: »

Here, anyone see Lovren do anything to a United player?

:pac: want me to root it out for you?

In fairness I do think that Pawson is brutal, very inconsistent. I wince every time I see him reffing.. he does be overawed by the occasion. And that’s for both teams in fairness..

corwill

In the unlikely event that there's a Spouse burglar reading, would you do the decent thing and take an enormous jobby on Lovren's pillow the next time you're in there? Thanks in advance.

j8wk2feszrnpao

AidoEirE wrote: »

Didnt lovren bash mctominey i think it was at thr back of the head and go unpunished

A bad inconsistent ref. Yes. I'd take the yellow for Lovern and Trent for the yellows for Matic/Smalling, and a pen against Young and yellow, and red for Valencia.

limnam

munstermagic11 wrote: »

A bad inconsistent ref. Yes. I'd take the yellow for Lovern and Trent for the yellows for Matic/Smalling, and a pen against Young and yellow, and red for Valencia.

A yellow for elbowing someone in the head?

A red for vaelncia's no contact high foot.

Consistent.

Right.

j8wk2feszrnpao

limnam wrote: »

A red for vaelncia's no contact high foot.

At least watch the game if you are going to comment on it. If you couldn't see contact, then just give it up.

limnam

munstermagic11 wrote: »

At least watch the game if you are going to comment on it. If you couldn't see contact, then just give it up.

Then you focus on what I said about Valencia and not lov.

At least your bias is consistent.

j8wk2feszrnpao

limnam wrote: »

Then you focus on what I said about Valencia and not lov.

At least your bias is consistent.

Bias says the pot.
Not surprised given your lack of vision on the contact. More like lack of focus being a problem for your eyesight.

mosstin

You'd question someone's mental age if they spent much of their evening, hiding in the shadows, thanking posts they don't have the balls to make themselves. Not least when they have a much savoured victory to celebrate.

Trigger

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Bias says the pot.
Not surprised given your lack of vision on the contact. More like lack of focus being a problem for your eyesight.

I think both incidents are potentially red cards, I think it was that the Lovern incident wasn’t seen, it’s a clear elbow to the back of the neck. Dunno what he was thinking over the Valencia one, maybe he didn’t think he got him but booked him for a high foot. There was contact there but it was minimal at best. I dunno, but as I said there is always something to talk about when Pawson is in charge.

I still don’t think the result was the Refs fault though. The first is all on TAA and Lovren and the second I would actually blame Klopp. He should have instructed ye to double up on Lukaku from the long balls after the first goal as it was obvious we were targeting that side

Grayditch

You set him up for that 'thank' in fairness, haha.

limnam

limnam wrote: »

Then you focus on what I said about Valencia and not lov.

At least your bias is consistent.

Absolutely **** all contact. Same for people delusional enough to think that Liverpool should have had a penalty when Fellani was simply strong in the challange.

limnam

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Absolutely **** all contact. Same for people delusional enough to think that Liverpool should have had a penalty when Fellani was simply strong in the challange.

Rise from the shadows.

j8wk2feszrnpao

astradave wrote: »

I still don’t think the result was the Refs fault though.

I said the same earlier. For Klopp he has to look at Lovern going forward. At RB they are two young guys who will need to learn, but show promise. Utd had 3 chances, scored twice (and probably should have been 3). VVD should ahve scored.
At 2:0, it allowed Utd to flood the defense, and we didn't have the ability on the day to break it down. Solanke isn't going to change a game, so need to work on that as well.

mosstin

Grayditch wrote: »

You set him up for that 'thank' in fairness, haha.

Flushed him out. Oh look, he's posting now.

Chelsea picking up 3 pts earlier is less than ideal IMO.

We both have 8 games remaining, to hit 76 pts we need 16 points, that doesn't sound overly difficult, we're on 60 pts after 30 games and before the Utd game we were on a right good run.

For Chelsea to hit 76 points they'd need 20 pts from their next 8 games.... 6 wins and 2 draws. They are in brutal form of late in the PL too which is in our favour of course.

We really don't want to be going to Stamford Bridge needing not to lose IMO.

Fingers crossed if Chelsea make top4 it's at Spurs' expense.

ERG89

Augeo wrote:

Fingers crossed if Chelsea make top4 it's at Spurs' expense.

This day next week both might be out of Europe too...so much for people dismissing them yesterday.

ERG89

ERG89 wrote: »

This day next week both might be out of Europe too...so much for people dismissing them yesterday.

Well, we're still very much the more likely of the 3 NOT to drop out of the top4 to be fair.

Chelsea would need to put a thoroughly decent, near perfect 8 games to overtake us you'd expect. I can't see us dropping over 8 pts to be honest between now and the end of the season.

chicorytip

Brego888 wrote:

I don't agree. Lovren is no long term solution but he's not miles behind Matip. Matip is ordinary.

Van Dijk has looked hopeless so far - slow, lacking aggression and a poor header of the ball. His supposed attributes are claimed to be the exact opposite of these shortcomings.

martyos121

mosstin wrote: »

Flushed him out. Oh look, he's posting now.

Just don’t quote, or we all suffer.

corwill

chicorytip wrote: »

Van Dijk has looked hopeless so far - slow, lacking aggression and a poor header of the ball. His supposed attributes are claimed to be the exact opposite of these shortcomings.

AidoEirE

munstermagic11 wrote: »

A bad inconsistent ref. Yes. I'd take the yellow for Lovern and Trent for the yellows for Matic/Smalling, and a pen against Young and yellow, and red for Valencia.

Now thats inconsistent.. Trent did it twice in the match
And lovren shouldnt have been on the pitch

AidoEirE

munstermagic11 wrote: »

At least watch the game if you are going to comment on it. If you couldn't see contact, then just give it up.

Trent got away with it twice...

Osmosis Jones

Oh, I see we have people coming in peace again.

AidoEirE

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Oh, I see we have people coming in peace again.

Not at all i came in hours ago asking what the team could of differently for a debate.
Got a decent response but i challenged him on the refs decisions..
No 'coming in peace' about it, discussing the game..

cj maxx

AidoEirE wrote: »

Not at all i came in hours ago asking what the team could of differently for a debate.
Got a decent response but i challenged him on the refs decisions..
No 'coming in peace' about it, discussing the game..

Is the match thread closed ?

AidoEirE

cjmc wrote: »

Is the match thread closed ?

What your getting salty because im asking about your team and how things could of been done differently today as an insight. Now that i challenge someone on their opinion in a good manner here, its move on. Fair enough didnt realise we cut the wound that big today. More salt should help

AidoEirE

cjmc wrote: »

You didnt , just boring me with your trolling . Bring your Teddy to bed . Mite!

Go back and read my posts in this thread and you'll see i havent trolled in any way.

Mite!

Osmosis Jones

AidoEirE wrote: »

i havent trolled in any way.

AidoEirE wrote: »

More salt should help

okay

Grayditch

chicorytip wrote: »

Van Dijk has looked hopeless so far - slow, lacking aggression and a poor header of the ball. His supposed attributes are claimed to be the exact opposite of these shortcomings.

AidoEirE

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

okay

Literally picking part of a post where i was acussed of it and reacted, If your going to quote me do the whole post to give context

Im sure if i picked and choosed some of your comments i could make something thats not real either

Utopia Parkway

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Absolutely **** all contact. Same for people delusional enough to think that Liverpool should have had a penalty when Fellani was simply strong in the challange.

You mean when he barged Mane over with his elbow into the back and most seem to feel it was a penalty? Is this the same tackle we are talking about?

Utopia Parkway

Augeo wrote: »

Chelsea picking up 3 pts earlier is less than ideal IMO.

Home to Palace. They were always going to win that. Chelsea v Spurs next so important we beat Watford at home next weekend.

AidoEirE

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Home to Palace. They were always going to win that. Chelsea v Spurs next so important we beat Watford at home next weekend.

Cant take anything for granted now in pl, we've brighton at home. Chris doing an outstanding job there

Watford is really tricky, delany and richarlison can be hand fulls. Delany a great man to lead them up front

HandsomeBob

Van Dijk didn't quite have his best game yesterday which is a bloody shame. Every time we had a corner he looked like he was carrying the world on his shoulders so hopefully he learns to calm himself in future big games.

Not worried about this result now that the red mist has descended. Means fcuk all really. Hopefully Sevilla do a number on them so we can see the back of Jose for a season.

Nalz

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

You mean when he barged Mane over with his elbow into the back and most seem to feel it was a penalty? Is this the same tackle we are talking about?

Jesus

noodler

Nalz wrote: »

Jesus

Two penos as far as I could see.

The one by young on Salah the most frustrating because it was a clear goalscoring opportunity.

A red for that and a second yellow for rashford would have made a difference.

Then again Lovren could have gone twice over.

MD1990

I think Gomez is well ahead of Trent AA.

Trent is a very good footballer but I get nervous when he is up against a good winger. Gomez is much better defensively.

Trent still needs to develop physically when he does he will be an excellent player.

MD1990

Also Craig Pawson cannot be allowed referee a game involving us again or any PL game again.

Consistently gives us nothing & some terrible decisions.