Vegans sending death threats to dairy farmers on social media.

tractorporn

TITANIUM. wrote:

Ah God love um. I'm actually beginning to pity some of um, there clearly not all there and are being exploited by the movement. It's looking more and more like scientology to me.

That song is fair catchy tho!

Say my name

I've said it before here as it's been proven by science now there's a gut brain link.
What you eat affects your mental health.
Don't like really sticking it to anyone but personally think some oily fish would help a lot.

roosterman71

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I'd a grand bit of violence tonight - steak and chips. Nothing like it

Dakota Dan

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

The part that bothers me is where she had a child with an Aberdeen Angus bull :eek:

Mtx

Do you live longer on a Vegan diet? Or that another myth

_Brian

Say my name wrote: »

I've said it before here as it's been proven by science now there's a gut brain link.
What you eat affects your mental health.
Don't like really sticking it to anyone but personally think some oily fish would help a lot.

Apparently it’s also pretty much set by the time your 4 or some such, so what you eat afterwards has little effect on the flauna in your tum tum.

Say my name

_Brian wrote: »

Apparently it’s also pretty much set by the time your 4 or some such, so what you eat afterwards has little effect on the flauna in your tum tum.

I think science is always changing on this.
Obviously your gut flora or lack of has a big impact on your health and emotional well being.
I wouldn't go along with a set development time or cut off point. Maybe there is I could be wrong.
They've trialled faecal supplements from healthy mice to mice with cognitive disorders with successful outcomes and now it's starting on humans. I think these are on people over 4 though. Even antibiotics can kill off a lot of flora in your gut and some you may never get back.
I'd go with your gut flora are evolving or changing the whole time to what ever conditions they're faced with.

Chemicals or nutrition or lack of can have an effect on humans of any age.
Take on the street illegal drugs for example or eating a bar of chocolate or putting an extra spoon of sugar in your tea or being run down from lack of iron etc, etc.
They all influence your mood and thought processes and that's really just the start of it.

patsy_mccabe

Mtx wrote: »

Do you live longer on a Vegan diet? Or that another myth

Its like Billy Connolly's story about white bread versus brown bread. Those that eat brown bread live on average 2 years longer.
But you dont get that 2 years in your twenties. You get it at the end of you life when you are all alone, because all your friends are dead from eating white bread.

Dakota Dan

Mtx wrote: »

Do you live longer on a Vegan diet? Or that another myth

It's a myth in fact they say a vegan diet causes heart disease, it didn't do Michael Clark Duncan any good as he was dead 3 years after giving up meat. Bill Clinton went vegan 7 or 8 years ago and did enough trumpeting about it, the way he was going on as if he was going to live forever but he had to go back eating meat on doctors orders.

The vegan bible is a book called the china study that came out in 2006 but it has been proven all lies without any scientific proof whatsoever.

PMU

Mtx wrote: »

Do you live longer on a Vegan diet? Or that another myth

no, just seems longer

Mrloverlover

I don't think the crazy in your face vegans are the norm at all, they just get the most air time. I only know two and they are both two of the soundest people I've ever met. I reckon people that have extremist traits use veganism to express them.

gozunda

Mtx wrote: »

Do you live longer on a Vegan diet? Or that another myth

Vegans are just as prone to eating junk foods as the rest of the planet. One person who recorded a youtube video about why she gave up her 'vegan' diet because it was just so easy to pig out on carbs all the while keeping to a supposed virtous vegan diet.

See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5go7CtkbFk

Lots of the protein replacements such as soya and seitan are highly processed mush imo. Ok the vegetable elements are generally good but the use of processed ingredients such as oils etc is commonplace in prepared vegan foods.

So like any diet it depends on the foods you select to eat and not on the diet itself.

The old joke about living longer after giving up fags and booze is not that you live longer - it just seems that way ....

bogman_bass

Tilikum17 wrote: »

The industry I work in, I’d be worried about my job in the future. But nowhere near as I’d much as be worried if I was a dairy farmer. And that’s a fact.

No that's an opinion. Please learn the difference

beefburrito

Say my name wrote: »

It seems to be getting very serious now.:eek:
Surely it must be time for prosecutions to follow for so called vegan representatives harassing dairy farmers who use social media. I mean a death threat is a death threat. Whether it's said face to face or even worse in my view posted over the internet. Prosecutions should follow or are the only people allowed to use social media now bully boy militant vegans?:mad:

http://www.thatsfarming.com/news/dairy-farm-vegan-abuse

Any vegans I know are feminists,manginas, gaslighters, narcissists and not very nice to people in general.

I had a few give me hassle about my fishing as there's a few living across the valley from me,my mistake I caught more than enough mackerel and dropped some to the old dear Mary as she loves fish.

Being the nice neighbor,offered some to our new neighbours, they slated me for being a fish killer,really rude people I might add.

Anyhow their hawthorn avenue smelled great for a few weeks after that, sure the rats and foxes love a treat now and again....

Dakota Dan

gozunda wrote: »

Vegans are just as prone to eating junk foods as the rest of the planet. One person who recorded a youtube video about why she gave up her 'vegan' diet because it was just so easy to pig out on carbs all the while keeping to a supposed virtous vegan diet.

See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5go7CtkbFk

Lots of the protein replacements such as soya and seitan are highly processed mush imo. Ok the vegetable elements are generally good but the use of processed ingredients such as oils etc is commonplace in prepared vegan foods.

So like any diet it depends on the foods you select to eat and not on the diet itself.

The old joke about living longer after giving up fags and booze is not that you live longer - it just seems that way ....

They say you have to really know your diet going vegan but none of them can tell you what to eat other than don't eat animals. Most of the fake meat and milk is pure trash. 87% of them eventually turn back so farmers have nothing to worry about apart from product prices dropping.

patsy_mccabe

I saw this today in Co. Clare. There was another just before it , about 100 yards back the road.

Say my name

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I saw this today in Co. Clare. There was another just before it , about 100 yards back the road.

You should plant a fully grown tree in front of that.
(To help the environment).
Either that or get a French farmer to help plant the tree.

Someone really has too much money to burn.

patsy_mccabe

Say my name wrote: »

You should plant a fully grown tree in front of that.
(To help the environment).

Ya, considering it is on farmers land, kinda ironic.
Some fine looking kindling at the base of the frame, if you know what I mean. :rolleyes:

Say my name

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ya, considering it is on farmers land, kinda ironic.
Some fine looking kindling at thebase of the frame, if you know what I mean. :rolleyes:

Reduce, reuse, recycle.

rushvalley

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I saw this today in Co. Clare. There was another just before it , about 100 yards back the road.

Bunratty?

patsy_mccabe

rushvalley wrote: »

Bunratty?

Ya.

Dakota Dan

There's another billboard on the n20 with similar rubbish. There was a backlash from farmers as they said it was showing that they had no regard for their animals. The advertising agency rejected the complaints. The campaign started in February in memory of a dead hen by a Meath woman. A fairly costly hen.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/advertising-watchdog-approves-vegan-inhumane-milk-campaign-despite-farmers-complaints-35971190.html

tractorporn

patsy_mccabe wrote:

I saw this today in Co. Clare. There was another just before it , about 100 yards back the road.

Same one in Athlone in two different sites on the way into town. Both of them were defaced and replaced recently. They must have serious money backing them

Dakota Dan

That Meath woman is some looney bin. If she went on with that nonsense 50 years ago they'd be putting her in a straight jacket, the world is surely gone mad.

gozunda

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I saw this today in Co. Clare. There was another just before it , about 100 yards back the road.

A suitable response to that piece of rubbish ...



Some of the extreme vegans even advocate genetically changing carnivores so that they dont 'need" meat :rolleyes:

From a vegan website ...



Friggin nutters ...

beefburrito

Mod:
Using insulting labels rather than reasoned argument is never going to advance your cause here.

Any further uncivil posts will be actioned.

freedominacup

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B6zkrE5ggCA

Buford T. Justice XIX

gozunda wrote: »

A suitable response to that piece of rubbish ...



Some of the extreme vegans even advocate genetically changing carnivores so that they dont 'need" meat :rolleyes:

From a vegan website ...



Friggin nutters ...

I don't know about anyone else but I'm kinda freaked out by a vegan lion farting bubbles:pac:

whelan2

I was asking the ai man yesterday was he worried about the vegan movement. He hadnt heard any of it

Dakota Dan

whelan2 wrote: »

I was asking the ai man yesterday was he worried about the vegan movement. He hadnt heard any of it

Did you tell him what he was doing was rape?

emaherx

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Wha

Wouldn't worry about it, he's posted the same thing across 20 odd threads.

whelan2

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Did you tell him what he was doing was rape?

I did. He just laughed

Dakota Dan

Angry farmer confronts vegans, apparently :rolleyes:

They confront him and he isn't angry in fact he a very patient man and guess who's leader of the mob, Joey crabbrain the Aussie nutter that was here last week. Amazing how they twist things to make it look as if they won.

Calfscour

This **** is so tedious, can someone close this thread for the love of ****

Say my name

Calfscour wrote: »

This **** is so tedious, can someone close this thread for the love of ****

I know I started it but I think it's run it's course.
Things we learned.

Vegan arguments are run on emotion instead of reason.
They have an online presence and will target young impressionable people and see what they do as a life mission.
Just by debating it here we're nearly giving their cause oxygen but it's a tough one to deal with when they set up stands to target young people anywhere they can.

The Mods and the rest of ye can decide if ye want to continue posting or not. It's up to yourselves. It's a new fanatical religion of sorts. Up there with Jedi.

tractorporn

Say my name wrote:

The Mods and the rest of ye can decide if ye want to continue posting or not. It's up to yourselves. It's a new fanatical religion of sorts. Up there with Jedi.

Interesting according to the last census there's nearly as many Jedi as vegans in the UK.

Dakota Dan

Calfscour wrote: »

This **** is so tedious, can someone close this thread for the love of ****

Simple solution don't click on it then.

Kerryman79

leave it open till they actually discuss tillage and its methods and see how compatible it is with their ethos
1. worms and machinery eg rotavator
2. pest control - lil fluffy wabbits and cooing pigeons
3. pesticides - poor lil butterflies
4. climate change - all those nasty chemicals made by the people in white coats
and the list can go on and on
not going to mention those diesel drinking tractors or trucks to actually get the sprout to market !
main point i want to make is if we actually had to do vegan here i think we would have to import food , these people cant see why we do what we actually do, let them eat their imported foods and tell us about climate change and our future - with them we have no future !
i do agree this thread is depressing but only because its like watching special opinionated person play snooker with baling twine rather than a cue !!!

Reggie.

Kerryman79 wrote: »

leave it open till they actually discuss tillage and its methods and see how compatible it is with their ethos
1. worms and machinery eg rotavator
2. pest control - lil fluffy wabbits and cooing pigeons
3. pesticides - poor lil butterflies
4. climate change - all those nasty chemicals made by the people in white coats
and the list can go on and on
not going to mention those diesel drinking tractors or trucks to actually get the sprout to market !
main point i want to make is if we actually had to do vegan here i think we would have to import food , these people cant see why we do what we actually do, let them eat their imported foods and tell us about climate change and our future - with them we have no future !
i do agree this thread is depressing but only because its like watching special opinionated person play snooker with baling twine rather than a cue !!!

s7ryf3925pivug

Say my name wrote: »

Vegan arguments are run on emotion instead of reason.

People who make death threats on social media run on emotion rather than reason. It’s an irrational thing to do. The sort of people to grab a cause to be self righteous and hysterical about. In this case they’ve grabbed veganism. They greatly undermine what they purport to champion.

I was vegetarian for seven years or so. I never met a vegetarian or vegan in real life who was hysterical about it and was older than 11. To take these idiots as representative of vegans is way off the mark. Have a glance at the vegetarian forums on this site for a more accurate sample. You get more hysterics from posters attacking vegetarianism there than you do from vegetarians - which was always my personal experience too.

TwoOldBoots

Looks like lidl are following this thread too


https://www.lidl.ie/en/super-savers.htm?articleId=7175

bogman_bass

beefburrito wrote: »

.....

Hold on buddy. What's wrong with being a feminist?
Throwing labels around puts you in a pidgeon hole more than it does them

Reggie.

Go on the Dini owners

https://youtu.be/SwA2ce9H8Dc

KatyMac

TwoOldBoots wrote: »

Looks like lidl are following this thread too


https://www.lidl.ie/en/super-savers.htm?articleId=7175

I got the saddest looking veggie burgers as a hospital meal on Wednesday (it being Ash Wednesday and all). Couldn't eat it - not sure if that is a comment on the burger or hospital food in general!! :rolleyes:

Timmaay

TwoOldBoots wrote: »

Looks like lidl are following this thread too


https://www.lidl.ie/en/super-savers.htm?articleId=7175

They aren't actually bad ha. Veggie burgers have been around for donkeys yrs, slapping a vegan label on one assuming it's also vegan is very cheap marketing.

Base price

TwoOldBoots wrote: »

Looks like lidl are following this thread too


https://www.lidl.ie/en/super-savers.htm?articleId=7175

How can you ascertain Lidl selling veggie burgers equates to this thread. Processed vegetarian food has been on supermarket shelves for years.

gozunda

Milena Wide Watercress wrote: »

People who make death threats on social media run on emotion rather than reason. It’s an irrational thing to do. The sort of people to grab a cause to be self righteous and hysterical about. In this case they’ve grabbed veganism. They greatly undermine what they purport to champion.

I was vegetarian for seven years or so. I never met a vegetarian or vegan in real life who was hysterical about it and was older than 11. To take these idiots as representative of vegans is way off the mark. Have a glance at the vegetarian forums on this site for a more accurate sample. You get more hysterics from posters attacking vegetarianism there than you do from vegetarians - which was always my personal experience too.

I was surprised to go see a recent post over in the V&V forum saying so that they had no idea why posters in this thread were having a go at extreme veganism. They also stated that farmers views were evidently outdated. Now considering the title of the thread IS about extreme vegans issuing death threats to farmers I find that type of summary quite astounding.

Fair enough the thread has morphed into a larger discussion about extreme veganism with the odd bout of humorous asides - it remains that there has been a deafening silence from the vegan quarter in general on this issue. I linked to how these death threats etc have also taken place in the UK - and therefore not an isolated development.

I agree with what you say about "people who have to grab a cause to be self righteous and hysterical about. In this case they’ve grabbed veganism". However it looks like those self rightous and hystetical types are now largely running the ship and dragging many young and impressionable social media users into their 'cause' ...

gozunda

TwoOldBoots wrote: »

Looks like lidl are following this thread too

What has fairly ordinary vegetarian food on sale in Lidl got to do with this thread?

Why do you think that

greysides

gozunda wrote: »

Why do you think that

Just a Lidl humour.....

Dakota Dan

gozunda wrote: »

I was surprised to go see a recent post over in the V&V forum saying so that they had no idea why posters in this thread were having a go at extreme veganism. They also stated that farmers views were evidently outdated. Now considering the title of the thread IS about extreme vegans issuing death threats to farmers I find that type of summary quite astounding.

Fair enough the thread has morphed into a larger discussion about extreme veganism with the odd bout of humorous asides - it remains that there has been a deafening silence from the vegan quarter in general on this issue. I linked to how these death threats etc have also taken place in the UK - and therefore not an isolated development.

I agree with what you say about "people who have to grab a cause to be self righteous and hysterical about. In this case they’ve grabbed veganism". However it looks like those self rightous and hystetical types are now largely running the ship and dragging many young and impressionable social media users into their 'cause' ...

So the v&v posters follow this thread without input and have their own little rant about us over in v&v, they must be afraid of debate but sure what do farmers know about farming.

That Meath woman that is supposed to be running this farmer defamation campaign on billboards around Ireland doesn't get much following on her Facebook page, one or two comments from the same people on each of her articles. By the way they talk about her it's as if she started this nonsense worldwide.