Ionity charging network

unkel

So there's 5 now? One active, one being built, two more with planning approved and this latest one with planning applied for?

Mupchease

ELM327 wrote: »

It is listed as "building" here
https://ionity.eu/en/where-and-how.html

Wonder if that's in the new services

Looks two exits after the new services. That would make it exit 23. I didn’t see any construction at the new services last week but they also maybe didn’t start. As well as that the Esb has another spot already for an additional charger in the future at that service station.

Guess what I saw at the Ionity charger today ?











This is a disaster, it took the Chap ages to get connected. Ionity cable too short and charge port in a stupid location, was hard enough for me in the i3.

Lovely car very expensive and I'm not a fan of touch screens, BMW i3 Idrive is brilliant !

The i3 screen is up more towards eye level the e-tron you would have to look down, not a great design but I'd have to sit in and drive it to make a decision on that.

The Man was an employee of Audi Ireland HQ, Paddy, Whom I thank for letting me take the pics.

KCross

With Ionity being part funded by VAG you would think they would have got the cable length and/or port position right.

Right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing!

Regarding the ionity chargers ? pain in the ass, took me 15 mins to get it working, had to contact the helpline , would not activate the charging. Really horrible in the rain and wind and it was cold ! The Girl in Austria remote activated another charger.

Tip, get the swipe card , seems to work. The phone activation does not.

fricatus

Deleted User wrote: »

This is a disaster, it took the Chap ages to get connected. Ionity cable too short and charge port in a stupid location, was hard enough for me in the i3.

I’m very surprised by this... Audi have a big involvement in Ionity, and you’d have thought that the cables would be specified with the charge-port location on the E-Tron in mind.

fricatus

Deleted User wrote: »

Tip, get the swipe card , seems to work

How do you do that? I didn’t find anything about that on the website.

denismc

That is one dirty touchscreen!

fricatus

fricatus wrote: »

How do you do that? I didn’t find anything about that on the website.

The Girl told me that my BMW Dealer will provide this to me. The Audi HQ Employee had an ionity swipe card this is how he activated the charger.

So to all those using ionity chargers at this time, phone activation does not work.

If charging does not work first time don't waste time fiddling about just call the help line.

Get on to your dealers to get the ionity cards.

fricatus

fricatus wrote: »

I’m very surprised by this... Audi have a big involvement in Ionity, and you’d have thought that the cables would be specified with the charge-port location on the E-Tron in mind.

It was a joke, honestly, the difficulty the chap had to try connect the damn plug and worst of all it was kinked so these cables won't last long.

He had to park about a foot from the charger and at that it was too short, really incredible that this could happen.

Oh and ICE'ing ? lol. hilarious. They need signs and painting fast.

With all my moaning the positives are that 4 chargers are nice + ESB charger close by means 5 chargers are much better than 1, provided the Ionity bays are not ICE'd.

I'm sure the teething issues will be sorted but it's still handier to have the swipe card, if the phone network goes down etc then you can't activate the charger or even phone the help line.

I never even minded how long it took to charge, I started with about 33% and ended at 98% , once the e-tron pulled up that was that, couldn't care less lol.

can't imagine it took much less time than the ESB chargers because the i3 can only manage about 50 Kw. The Audi on the other hand, I think that can avail of the full 150 kw ? that's nice indeed !

Mike9832

Cloth seats?

Interior fairly bland for a 100k car?

Not that I have experience here

unkel

Mike9832 wrote: »

Cloth seats?

I could be wrong but it looks leather + alcantara to me. Interior is dirty and the car is switched off, hence the bland pictures.

Audi interiors are better than most other cars

unkel

Deleted User wrote: »

The Man was an employee of Audi Ireland HQ, Paddy

Paddy Comyn, a poster here in this forum, head of communications, VAG Ireland and former motoring journo?

Mike9832

Shefwedfan?

unkel

Eh, no

paddy1976

Mupchease

Seen that Audi last week at the coynes cross apple green fast charger. He’s moving around alright. Seen an old leaf beside it and the design difference is something else.

Shefwedfan

The eTron is a thing of beauty! it will sell well

lafors

Deleted User wrote: »

Guess what I saw at the Ionity charger today ?



This is a disaster, it took the Chap ages to get connected. Ionity cable too short and charge port in a stupid location, was hard enough for me in the i3.

It actually looks like it would be easier for him to charge from the machine to the right in the next space....brutal.
Do they have them in the dealers yet btw? Wouldn't mind test driving one for when the missus changes her's next April.

paddy1976

That was me!

paddy1976

We’ve spoke to IONITY since. The issue is these machines were made for LHD markets. The CCS on the e-tron is on the drivers side with the RHD e-tron. They know there is an issue so will alter this one and all new ones will by put side on.

paddy1976

And today....

Black_Knight

paddy1976 wrote: »

And today....

Nice of them to provide horse and trap transport for those who turn up to charge only to have their charger iced.

paddy1976

paddy1976 wrote: »

That was me!

Good meeting you paddy, thanks for the pics, it was rather entertaining trying to get the plug in the car !

Black_Knight

Black_Knight wrote: »

Nice of them to provide horse and trap transport for those who turn up to charge only to have their charger iced.

Yeah , shame, 4 charge bays and 3 ICed, something should be done about it.

BigAl81

paddy1976 wrote:

We’ve spoke to IONITY since.

I don't suppose you got a chance to speak to them about marking the spaces or putting up some EV only signs

paddy1976

BigAl81 wrote: »

I don't suppose you got a chance to speak to them about marking the spaces or putting up some EV only signs

I’ll send on today’s pics. In fairness they work great. I did Drogheda to Cork and back stopping for 45 mins each way.

BigAl81

paddy1976 wrote:

I’ll send on today’s pics. In fairness they work great. I did Drogheda to Cork and back stopping for 45 mins each way.

Brilliant, thanks

In fairness, it's amazing to have them in Ireland, but if they're frequently ICEd as they seem to be, they're no use!

Being able to have an available charger you can depend on is key to the whole idea.

Paint the spaces green and throw up a few signs should hopefully help!

A clamping in operation sign will get more attention !

KCross

paddy1976 wrote: »

We’ve spoke to IONITY since. The issue is these machines were made for LHD markets. The CCS on the e-tron is on the drivers side with the RHD e-tron. They know there is an issue so will alter this one and all new ones will by put side on.

What exactly does that mean?

Does it mean that the chargers will be positioned more like a traditional petrol pump where you drive alongside it?

zg3409

KCross wrote: »

paddy1976 wrote: »

We’ve spoke to IONITY since. The issue is these machines were made for LHD markets. The CCS on the e-tron is on the drivers side with the RHD e-tron. They know there is an issue so will alter this one and all new ones will by put side on.

What exactly does that mean?

Does it mean that the chargers will be positioned more like a traditional petrol pump where you drive alongside it?

It would be great if each charger could be reached by 4 parking positions. Even better if they do not look like parking spaces. It would be great if they could improve design at future locations. Painted green bays seems to fade quickly and be expensive but are a help. No parking signs seem to work well.

liamog

KCross wrote: »

What exactly does that mean?

Does it mean that the chargers will be positioned more like a traditional petrol pump where you drive alongside it?

My guess is they will rotate the current ones 90 degrees so that the cable is sticking out towards the parking space.

KCross

liamog wrote: »

My guess is they will rotate the current ones 90 degrees so that the cable is sticking out towards the parking space.

I was kinda hoping they were talking about positioning them like petrol pumps but was skeptical as that would require alot more real estate.

I think you are right..... its probably a case of just rotating them and possibly adding an extra foot or two of cable.

This is how Ionity do "side on" in Norway

The new area they are digging out in Junction 14 has alot of space so maybe they will do a proper side-on setup.

Black_Knight

Deleted User wrote: »

A clamping in operation sign will get more attention !

Can we make one ourselves?

Black_Knight

Black_Knight wrote: »

Can we make one ourselves?

better again , we can do the clamping ourselves !

liamog

KCross wrote: »

The new area they are digging out in Junction 14 has a lot of space so maybe they will do a proper side-on setup.

It would be good if some kind of group of concerned citizens related to EVs were raising these observations at the time planning permission was sought.

KCross

liamog wrote: »

It would be good if some kind of group of concerned citizens related to EVs were raising these observations at the time planning permission was sought.

IEVOA should be doing that but I'm not a member so I cant complain if they arent!

Any IEVOA members here know if they are keeping an eye on these planning applications?

Having said that, I dount you could object or influence the layout on planning grounds. It would be really up to the operator how they want to position their charger... i.e. its not really a planning issue per se?

Dardania

KCross wrote: »

IEVOA should be doing that but I'm not a member so I cant complain if they arent!

Any IEVOA members here know if they are keeping an eye on these planning applications?

Having said that, I dount you could object or influence the layout on planning grounds. It would be really up to the operator how they want to position their charger... i.e. its not really a planning issue per se?

You possibly could make an observation on planning grounds. One of the CRU (I think it was) had a strategic decarbonisation plan about a year or two ago, and one of the action items was to progress EV charging as a strategic objective, with discussion about preventing ICEing. Maybe it was the short lived national mitigation plan. But either way, if you linked your comment to that, it could be given weight accordingly.

ELM327

KCross wrote: »

IEVOA should be doing that but I'm not a member so I cant complain if they arent!

Any IEVOA members here know if they are keeping an eye on these planning applications?

Having said that, I dount you could object or influence the layout on planning grounds. It would be really up to the operator how they want to position their charger... i.e. its not really a planning issue per se?

IEVOA is a circle jerk of manbabies and silly old men, can't see them doing anything to be honest

KCross

ELM327 wrote: »

IEVOA is a circle jerk of manbabies and silly old men, can't see them doing anything to be honest

Are you a member! :pac::pac::pac:

Only joking, before you get offended!

ELM327

I was a member and have attended their agm before, but was confronted with a shambles of an organization.
I'm glad I'm not a member as I'd be ashamed to have them represent me for anything.

Lets not take the good news story of the Ionity chargers opening and ruin it with those other shower of eejits :P

BKtje

lafors wrote: »

It actually looks like it would be easier for him to charge from the machine to the right in the next space....brutal.
Do they have them in the dealers yet btw? Wouldn't mind test driving one for when the missus changes her's next April.

Was thinking exactly the same thing...or just take 3 spots to get as close as possible by parking horizontally:p

GreeBo

BKtje wrote: »

Was thinking exactly the same thing...or just take 3 spots to get as close as possible by parking horizontally:p

they should have the plugs on an arm that hangs over the car, so you can plug it in anywhere (and ideally have parking on both sides of the "pump")

You are going to need fines or else restricted access to prevent ICE-ing both of which will increase costs

paddy1976

Yes that's correct - so the lead can be as long as possible - at the moment it suits the left hand side of a car more than the right...

jusmeig

Lots good and bad about the Ionity Cashel site having used them today. I'll start with the good. Great to see the ground being broken in Ireland in terms of a private charging solution, even if it is backed by monkey killing VW. When it finally worked, 23kwh in 28 minutes for my Ioniq...fast.

The bad....sigh.
Stall 2 broke. Got an error saying charging cannot start until there is enough power...lol. Moved to stall 3 after 5 minutes chatting to support.
The cables are far too short, this is mainly due to the fact it comes out the top of quite a tall machine...u loose most of the cables range owing to the height. Just a crappy design
Stall 1 is a handicapped spot, no idea why!?
No marking for EV only, so they are being iced to Fu&k.

I'd love to know if any of above is being addressed, that's a really busy garage, chargers won't work with all the icing going on.

Orebro

Why didn’t they paint the bloody spaces while they were at it? That’s just annoying in the extreme that you could arrive and be ICEd by people gone off to McDonalds for 45 mins!

DrPhilG

Someone local needs to get some cones out. Nothing to stop people moving them but it does tend to deter those who don't realise, just not those who don't care.

Then again you'll have dumbass ev drivers who don't put them back afterwards.

Shefwedfan

jusmeig wrote: »

Lots good and bad about the Ionity Cashel site having used them today. I'll start with the good. Great to see the ground being broken in Ireland in terms of a private charging solution, even if it is backed by monkey killing VW. When it finally worked, 23kwh in 28 minutes for my Ioniq...fast.

The bad....sigh.
Stall 2 broke. Got an error saying charging cannot start until there is enough power...lol. Moved to stall 3 after 5 minutes chatting to support.
The cables are far too short, this is mainly due to the fact it comes out the top of quite a tall machine...u loose most of the cables range owing to the height. Just a crappy design
Stall 1 is a handicapped spot, no idea why!?
No marking for EV only, so they are being iced to Fu&k.

I'd love to know if any of above is being addressed, that's a really busy garage, chargers won't work with all the icing going on.

What’s the issue with one charger marked for handicap drivers?

unkel

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What’s the issue with one charger marked for handicap drivers?

It means that effectively there are only 3 chargers there. Not 4.