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Premier League TV rights deal 2019 to 2023.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,426 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    howiya wrote: »
    First you tell me big companies will buy the rights, now you agree they won't.

    You clearly don't get that selling the rights for the league as a whole is the only way the league can maximise its income. There's no other way around it.

    There's absolutely no evidence other than a few anecdotal posts on here to suggest the people who use illegal streams currently would sign up to pay for 38 Chelsea games if they could. Logic would suggest they would continue using the same stream they use this season.

    Collective rights have worked thus far, but that may not be the case in the future.

    The drop in the domestic sale price indicates that the market may be saturated.

    If that is the case then the league will try a different approach. Right now the big teams are carrying the small teams in a TV ratings sense, if the big teams decide that that burden is too big then they will demand a change.

    And if, as many are suggesting, international rights become more lucrative than domestic ones then you can be cock sure that the small teams will get a smaller cut. Whatever about some one in the UK wanting to see their home club Swansea play Brighton, no football fan in Delhi or Detroit will be bothered.

    This won't happen overnight and whether the next evolution takes the form of individual team rights or zero quotas on less "glamourous" ties I don't know, but the premier league will be 30 years old when this contract ends, the media world has changed utterly in that 30 years, I'm not sure the current model can survive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    All PL have a vote to any changes in the structures of the league, etc..

    The top 6 already tried this year to have the overseas money split differently. It's currently equal between all clubs, they wanted merit based.

    It didn't even go to a vote, no interest from the others. They'll never get the 14 majority for a change anytime soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    The next tv deal will sell even more games now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,426 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    All PL have a vote to any changes in the structures of the league, etc..

    The top 6 already tried this year to have the overseas money split differently. It's currently equal between all clubs, they wanted merit based.

    It didn't even go to a vote, no interest from the others. They'll never get the 14 majority for a change anytime soon

    Back in 1992 20 clubs managed to convince 72 that they could breakaway and form their own league and strike their own TV deal.

    It's not inconceviable that a change to the structure can happen in the coming years regardless of how many clubs may initially be against the idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,287 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    celt262 wrote: »
    20.00 Friday
    12.30 Saturday
    15.00 Saturday X 2
    17.30 Saturday
    20.00 Saturday
    12.30 Sunday
    14.15 Sunday
    16.30 Sunday
    20.00 Monday

    This is how it is all broke down

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭howiya


    Collective rights have worked thus far, but that may not be the case in the future.

    The drop in the domestic sale price indicates that the market may be saturated.

    If that is the case then the league will try a different approach. Right now the big teams are carrying the small teams in a TV ratings sense, if the big teams decide that that burden is too big then they will demand a change.

    And if, as many are suggesting, international rights become more lucrative than domestic ones then you can be cock sure that the small teams will get a smaller cut. Whatever about some one in the UK wanting to see their home club Swansea play Brighton, no football fan in Delhi or Detroit will be bothered.

    This won't happen overnight and whether the next evolution takes the form of individual team rights or zero quotas on less "glamourous" ties I don't know, but the premier league will be 30 years old when this contract ends, the media world has changed utterly in that 30 years, I'm not sure the current model can survive.

    The international rights packages aren't bound by the no 3pm kick-offs or one live game at a time rule that we have to put up with.

    The fan in Delhi or Detroit is signing up to the whole package though. They just get more choice than we or people in the UK do and can actually watch the match they want to see.

    Bigger teams are arguing for more of a cut of the foreign money but so far the rest of the league aren't entertaining it.

    The media market has changed completely but nobody can point to how the league can continue to earn the same money if they change how they sell the rights differently. They will fight change as long as they can.

    You point to the price going down this time round but that's largely down to affordability for Sky rather than anything else. BT are actually paying more per game this time round than they are under the current deal. It's widely acknowledged that Sky overpaid for this deal so there was always going to be a correction.

    People say Sky would be goosed without the EPL but its the same the other way around. Yes they're getting slightly less to keep Sky onside but without Sky the bubble bursts completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,426 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    howiya wrote: »
    The international rights packages aren't bound by the no 3pm kick-offs or one live game at a time rule that we have to put up with.

    The fan in Delhi or Detroit is signing up to the whole package though. They just get more choice than we or people in the UK do and can actually watch the match they want to see.

    Bigger teams are arguing for more of a cut of the foreign money but so far the rest of the league aren't entertaining it.

    The media market has changed completely but nobody can point to how the league can continue to earn the same money if they change how they sell the rights differently. They will fight change as long as they can.

    You point to the price going down this time round but that's largely down to affordability for Sky rather than anything else. BT are actually paying more per game this time round than they are under the current deal. It's widely acknowledged that Sky overpaid for this deal so there was always going to be a correction.

    People say Sky would be goosed without the EPL but its the same the other way around. Yes they're getting slightly less to keep Sky onside but without Sky the bubble bursts completely.


    The fact that BT are paying more per game is irrelevant if you ask me, but they are paying less overall, that's the important point.

    BT have decided that they cannot afford a bigger set of packages so they just bought the one they can afford.

    The EPL would be goosed without someone willing to pay the kind of money the teams currently need to in order to offer the type of player contracts they are currently offering. Whether that someone is Sky or not does not really matter.

    If the rights no longer become affordable for the broadcaster then the model is in trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Collective rights have worked thus far, but that may not be the case in the future.

    The drop in the domestic sale price indicates that the market may be saturated.

    If that is the case then the league will try a different approach. Right now the big teams are carrying the small teams in a TV ratings sense, if the big teams decide that that burden is too big then they will demand a change.

    And if, as many are suggesting, international rights become more lucrative than domestic ones then you can be cock sure that the small teams will get a smaller cut. Whatever about some one in the UK wanting to see their home club Swansea play Brighton, no football fan in Delhi or Detroit will be bothered.

    This won't happen overnight and whether the next evolution takes the form of individual team rights or zero quotas on less "glamourous" ties I don't know, but the premier league will be 30 years old when this contract ends, the media world has changed utterly in that 30 years, I'm not sure the current model can survive.

    Arsenal, man u, Liverpool & Everton were approached by ITV Offering them more money for just the bigger clubs.
    They didn't convince the other football league clubs at all. They were all against it, threatening league action but the top league broke away anyway when the fa said they wouldn't oppose

    Then there was an auction for the rights, Alan sugar of spurs was also selling satellite dishes/boxes to sky, rang then up told them ITV's bid & was also allowed to vote on who's bid to accept and that's how sky got the pl.

    You even said yourself not many abroad are paying for Stoke, Brighton, etc
    Why would those those type of clubs vote to sell the rights on a per club basis?
    They all know the bigger clubs are carrying them both at home & abroad

    'The league' can't try a different approach without the 14 majority

    Domestically they'll just keep leaking up the games 200 this time, 220 next whatever.
    If someone else bids all the better, it's inflate the price again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,426 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    Arsenal, man u, Liverpool & Everton were approached by ITV Offering them more money for just the bigger clubs.
    They didn't convince the other football league clubs at all. They were all against it, threatening league action but the top league broke away anyway when the fa said they wouldn't oppose

    Then there was an auction for the rights, Alan sugar of spurs was also selling satellite dishes/boxes to sky, rang then up told them ITV's bid & was also allowed to vote on who's bid to accept and that's how sky got the pl.

    You even said yourself not many abroad are paying for Stoke, Brighton, etc
    Why would those those type of clubs vote to sell the rights on a per club basis?
    They all know the bigger clubs are carrying them both at home & abroad

    'The league' can't try a different approach without the 14 majority

    Domestically they'll just keep leaking up the games 200 this time, 220 next whatever.
    If someone else bids all the better, it's inflate the price again


    But someone else will only bid if it makes economic sense to do so, and as we can see from yesterday it seems like a celling has been reached when it comes to the end user paying to watch the current model of the EPL on TV, thus the lower bids.

    Two packages remain unsold and the notion that an online entity being interested seems to have been dispelled in today's news reports.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭howiya


    The EPL would be goosed without someone willing to pay the kind of money the teams currently need to in order to offer the type of player contracts they are currently offering. Whether that someone is Sky or not does not really matter.

    There is no someone else other than Sky though. All of your posts on this subject seem to deal in the hypothetical.

    The reality is that the BBC, ITV or BT aren’t going to come along and hand the EPL £3.5billion pounds anytime soon so it’s Sky or the bubble bursts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    howiya wrote: »
    There is no someone else other than Sky though. All of your posts on this subject seem to deal in the hypothetical.

    The reality is that the BBC, ITV or BT aren’t going to come along and hand the EPL £3.5billion pounds anytime soon so it’s Sky or the bubble bursts.

    China's tv deal wnet from 70m to 700m.

    The rights including worldwide have gone up

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/14/premier-league-bubble-not-bursting-tv-rights-sky-bt-sport?CMP=share_btn_tw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭howiya


    MD1990 wrote: »
    China's tv deal wnet from 70m to 700m.

    The rights including worldwide have gone up

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/14/premier-league-bubble-not-bursting-tv-rights-sky-bt-sport?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Aware of that. I meant in the context of the domestic UK market. Sky really are the only show in town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


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    But someone else will only bid if it makes economic sense to do so, and as we can see from yesterday it seems like a celling has been reached when it comes to the end user paying to watch the current model of the EPL on TV, thus the lower bids.

    Two packages remain unsold and the notion that an online entity being interested seems to have been dispelled in today's news reports.

    Yeah but we don't know what the economic sense is in 2021 or for who. BT only got involved in sports to take on sky in the domestic broadband/mobile/TV market. Made bundles more enticing.

    All I'd take from the current bids is that they viewed them at slightly less right now or that they've cooled their competition with each other slightly & since they've recently agreed to sell each others channels you'd wonder if they didn't have a off record agreement to not go crazy again.

    BT have a bad deal so far. Less games, more £/game & the worst timeslot with no first picks. I think they'll take the other 2 packs.

    Haven't seen that. Read last night that it was because a reserve price wasn't met.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    With the 2 packages unsold (and presumably targeted at a streaming service) it seems the apparent interest of Amazon/Facebook/Netflix has been overstated.

    In fairness the packages offered were very poor. It was a hard sell to sign up for a package with just a small number of fixtures (only 2 series of fixtures) even if every game was shown. A subscriber to a new service wouldn't be attracted.

    The overseas rights though are still growing.

    I hadn't realised how big the money was in Germany. Their latest tv deal is about the same money - for 4 years instead of 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,426 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    With the 2 packages unsold (and presumably targeted at a streaming service) it seems the apparent interest of Amazon/Facebook/Netflix has been overstated.

    In fairness the packages offered were very poor. It was a hard sell to sign up for a package with just a small number of fixtures (only 2 series of fixtures) even if every game was shown. A subscriber to a new service wouldn't be attracted.

    The overseas rights though are still growing.

    I hadn't realised how big the money was in Germany. Their latest tv deal is about the same money - for 4 years instead of 3.


    But it's the perfect offering for someone willing to test the "pick your game" theory.
    And I think the EPL also want to test that theory, that's why it's being offered.

    It's the kind of package someone new to the market might be interested in, like an online provider.


    But it seems the online providers are not interested just yet and/or the bidders believe it's overpriced right now, as a result it has gone unsold.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,516 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Interesting to see how much they are looking for.
    Like if the going rate for other packages is circa €9M a game, then how much is 10 games at once worth. Mathematically it must be between €9M and €90M, but I reckon its far closer to the former than the latter.

    I suspect the EPL maybe don't realise how little value a game has after its first showing, it's not like a TV show where it might get continuing viewing for years afterwards.

    Chelsea v WestHam has a certain value live, a lesser value in highlights within 24 hours and basically zero value after 24 hours has passed. It doesn't really fit the Netflix/Amazon model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Interesting to see how much they are looking for.
    Like if the going rate for other packages is circa €9M a game, then how much is 10 games at once worth. Mathematically it must be between €9M and €90M, but I reckon its far closer to the former than the latter.

    I suspect the EPL maybe don't realise how little value a game has after its first showing, it's not like a TV show where it might get continuing viewing for years afterwards.

    Chelsea v WestHam has a certain value live, a lesser value in highlights within 24 hours and basically zero value after 24 hours has passed. It doesn't really fit the Netflix/Amazon model.

    Reruns have never been the attraction for live sports selling. It's basically the only form of entertainment left which is still time sensitive. People will pay over and over for the ability to watch it as it happens unlike a tv show or movie or whatever where they now decide when and how they tune in.

    And as far for not being aware of it, well it's the trump card that all the sports package re-selling companies hold and they're doing a pretty good job of using it so far tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    It is possible BT could bid for the remaining packages as BT already show numerous games at the same time like with the Champions League.

    But the Premier League are not in a strong position.

    It is still likely that revenue will top the previous deal. Previous deal was about 5.5 billion. This one is now about 4.5 with the 2 remaining packages still to sell.

    As someone mentioned any shortfall will be made up by international rights. The Chinese deal has increased 10 fold from 70 to 700m.

    A big plus for subscribers is that you will now need to just sign up for the 1 provider in the uk to access all games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    howiya wrote: »
    This product is created in the morning. How much would you be willing to pay for it? €5 per match?

    Id would probably be willing to pay 200-250 a season if I could be guaranteed to see all 38 EPL matches involving my team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Id would probably be willing to pay 200-250 a season if I could be guaranteed to see all 38 EPL matches involving my team.

    Less than €25 a month? You won't get that value.
    Expect somewhere around €50 p/m.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,794 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    howiya wrote: »
    This product is created in the morning. How much would you be willing to pay for it? €5 per match?
    €5 is maybe a little too low. I am thinking they they could do an all-in, pre-paid season ticket for about €300. That works out at €7.90 a game, which I would argue is a fair amount as it would bring it into line with that it costs to watch an NBA game, or to go to the cinema.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    €5 is maybe a little too low. I am thinking they they could do an all-in, pre-paid season ticket for about €300. That works out at €7.90 a game, which I would argue is a fair amount as it would bring it into line with that it costs to watch an NBA game, or to go to the cinema.
    I reckon €5 a game would do it.
    Given there are 'alternative' viewing methods, the package has to be appealing as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭howiya


    €5 is maybe a little too low. I am thinking they they could do an all-in, pre-paid season ticket for about €300. That works out at €7.90 a game, which I would argue is a fair amount as it would bring it into line with that it costs to watch an NBA game, or to go to the cinema.

    I agree €5 is way too low. Just trying to see what people would be willing to pay for it.

    I don't think they could go below a tenner. That's what they're selling a day pass to Sky for on Now TV.

    From Sky/BT's point of view it has to be priced very carefully in such a way that it won't damage their existing subscription revenue.

    Bear in mind that people are currently watching it for free and will still be able to do so. How many of those people would sign up for €380 a year instead?

    We've no real evidence of this while the broadcasters have years of data backing up their current model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,426 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    €5 is maybe a little too low. I am thinking they they could do an all-in, pre-paid season ticket for about €300. That works out at €7.90 a game, which I would argue is a fair amount as it would bring it into line with that it costs to watch an NBA game, or to go to the cinema.
    Back over a decade ago Sky had a "pay per view" service.

    Anyone remember the cost back then ?

    I remember there were offers available at the start of the season etc.

    I'm sure one needed a Sky Sports subscription in the first place to access to PPV service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,287 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Back over a decade ago Sky had a "pay per view" service.

    Anyone remember the cost back then ?

    I remember there were offers available at the start of the season etc.

    I'm sure one needed a Sky Sports subscription in the first place to access to PPV service.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PremPlus

    Was going for a few years but was stopped as it was not successful and EU got in saying Sky could not hold all the games, so the next year those PPV games went to Setanta and the rest is history

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    That finished in 2013, just the premier league being greedy now

    3.-The European Commission accepted commitments from the Premier League on 22 March 2006 following an investigation under Article 101 (then Article 81) of the Treaty into the joint selling of its media rights. The commitments applied for 6 years and expired at the end of the 2012/13 season.

    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/media/media-releases/2016/premier-league-football-rights

    I though with Brexit, we were going to see the return of the monopoly, but I also see this:
    The next auction will include a ‘no single buyer’ rule, which means that more than one broadcaster must be awarded rights. At least 42 matches per season will be reserved for a second buyer, of which a minimum of 30 will be available for broadcast at the weekend.[/COLOR]


    Why can't we have a single buyer?

    Anyone who pays for Sky/BT is a mug. In America and Australia they just have one package with all of the games, although I think Australia shows some on free-to-air.

    A live streaming platform is inevitable because young people just don't watch TV anymore and the older generations who do watch TV will eventually die out, so they will be forced to adapt.

    Average daily time spent watching TV per individual in the United Kingdom (UK) from 2010 to 2016, by age (in hours)

    The sooner we all cancel Sky/BT, the sooner can have a live streaming platform. I'm cancelling altogether mine next week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Schwanz


    Back over a decade ago Sky had a "pay per view" service.

    Anyone remember the cost back then ?

    I remember there were offers available at the start of the season etc.

    I'm sure one needed a Sky Sports subscription in the first place to access to PPV service.

    Prem Plus

    I paid a pound a game pre season for a season ticket & I think per game was around a fiver?

    *Just checked, it was £7 per game or €9.99 in euro (I think)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    MD1990 wrote: »
    howiya wrote: »
    There is no someone else other than Sky though. All of your posts on this subject seem to deal in the hypothetical.

    The reality is that the BBC, ITV or BT aren’t going to come along and hand the EPL £3.5billion pounds anytime soon so it’s Sky or the bubble bursts.

    China's tv deal wnet from 70m to 700m.

    The rights including worldwide have gone up

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/14/premier-league-bubble-not-bursting-tv-rights-sky-bt-sport?CMP=share_btn_tw

    I’m living in China and currently paying 30rmb a month (roughly €4) and I can watch every game, with both Chinese and English commentary options. There are also individual team packages but they’re not good value.

    Surprised to see Such a huge increase in the broadcasting rights, especially when the kick off times are going to be less accommodating to the Asia market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,287 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    I though with Brexit, we were going to see the return of the monopoly, but I also see this:




    Why can't we have a single buyer?

    Anyone who pays for Sky/BT is a mug. In America and Australia they just have one package with all of the games, although I think Australia shows some on free-to-air.

    A live streaming platform is inevitable because young people just don't watch TV anymore and the older generations who do watch TV will eventually die out, so they will be forced to adapt.

    Average daily time spent watching TV per individual in the United Kingdom (UK) from 2010 to 2016, by age (in hours)

    The sooner we all cancel Sky/BT, the sooner can have a live streaming platform. I'm cancelling altogether mine next week.

    In America the games are on NBC but at least 3 games per club is behind a 2nd pay wall with the Premier Pass which is a stream service.

    Brexit has nothing to do with it. Premier League is just greedy looking for as much money as possible it can get.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    I’m living in China and currently paying 30rmb a month (roughly €4) and I can watch every game, with both Chinese and English commentary options. There are also individual team packages but they’re not good value.

    Surprised to see Such a huge increase in the broadcasting rights, especially when the kick off times are going to be less accommodating to the Asia market.

    Do you get English commentary included?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭howiya


    Brexit has nothing to do with it. Premier League is just greedy looking for as much money as possible it can get.

    With a bit of luck Brexit will finally see the Irish and UK TV rights markets separated


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    howiya wrote: »
    With a bit of luck Brexit will finally see the Irish and UK TV rights markets separated

    It's already is separate. That's how we get the 3pm games.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Schwanz


    It's already is separate. That's how we get the 3pm games.

    Only one pack is separate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Do you get English commentary included?

    They say they get Chinese and English.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,325 ✭✭✭howiya


    It's already is separate. That's how we get the 3pm games.

    We only get one game. If the UK and Irish TV markets were separate we could have access to every game like they do on Fox Sports in Oz for example. It's not only the EPL affected though. Look at when El Classico is played at 5pm. People in Ireland have to miss the first 15 minutes because of a law/rule in the UK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Schwanz


    howiya wrote: »
    We only get one game. If the UK and Irish TV markets were separate we could have access to every game like they do on Fox Sports in Oz for example. It's not only the EPL affected though. Look at when El Classico is played at 5pm. People in Ireland have to miss the first 15 minutes because of a law/rule in the UK

    When the Irish rights magically mirror that of the UK (again) we can all have a good laugh.

    Then down the line the only real rights battle will happen for the 3pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,287 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    There is only 3 associations who have a black out rule they are England, Scotland and Montenegro.

    So Wales, and Northern Ireland are also punished because of England and Scotland in not allowing football governed by UEFA between 2:45pm and 5:15pm on our screens.

    And why are you all comparing Irish coverage to places like US and Australia, when Ireland has the same as the rest of the EU, what ever is live on Sky and BT plus one 3pm game

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    And why are you all comparing Irish coverage to places like US and Australia, when Ireland has the same as the rest of the EU, what ever is live on Sky and BT plus one 3pm game

    You can watch all 380 in other EU countries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,426 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    You can watch all 380 in other EU countries

    Out of courosity, where and how much does it cost ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Out of courosity, where and how much does it cost ?

    The UK & Ireland is nearly the only places you can't watch them all.

    https://www.premierleague.com/news/60907

    Cost, idk. Depends on the country. These would be with the regular sports/football subs too, not just standalone for PL

    A lot of people in Ireland used to have a polish sub or sky Italia.
    BEIN sport formally al Jazeera had a very good sub too, all the sports you could want for cheap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Schwanz


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    The UK & Ireland is nearly the only places you can't watch them all.

    https://www.premierleague.com/news/60907

    Cost, idk. Depends on the country. These would be with the regular sports/football subs too, not just standalone for PL

    A lot of people in Ireland used to have a polish sub or sky Italia.
    BEIN sport formally al Jazeera had a very good sub too, all the sports you could want for cheap.

    The 3pms are restricted in Europe to one Live game every Saturday and as far as I can see Tuesday & Wednesday too (when played).

    I have a full foreign system and can watch most providers. First they restricted the commentary a few years back that could carry the english audio option and then eventually they restricted the Saturday 3pm to just one.

    Ireland has had just one from way back on RTE,Setanta & now Sky - this is not a new thing for us but relatively so on the Euro channels.

    NBC in America now have just one 3pm Sat on their Sports Network & carry the rest on their Sports Gold pack which is a season ticket. There is a live channel active on Saturday 3pm on Apple that I have which can show the goals from the rest of the 3pms simultaneously. Goal Rush it's called.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,287 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    You can watch all 380 in other EU countries

    Just have a look at the broadcast page on the premier league site and select a eu country.

    Next weekend they have 3 games listed for Saturday the 12:30 game, Liverpool at 3pm amd then the 5:30 game

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    Lukker- wrote: »
    I’m living in China and currently paying 30rmb a month (roughly €4) and I can watch every game, with both Chinese and English commentary options. There are also individual team packages but they’re not good value.

    Surprised to see Such a huge increase in the broadcasting rights, especially when the kick off times are going to be less accommodating to the Asia market.

    Do you get English commentary included?

    Yeah I can choose English commentary. The PL have a world feed with their own commentators, mostly made up of ex-Irish internationals. I think a lot of broadcasters around the world use the PL world feed rather than organising commentary themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,664 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Out of courosity, where and how much does it cost ?

    Tenner a month on DAZN in Germany (although they don't show every game - they only show one 3pm kick off and everything else)

    That said, I just about every league in western Europe as well.

    The downside? The games are streamed and can be abotu 30-40 seconds behind live.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Just have a look at the broadcast page on the premier league site and select a eu country.

    Next weekend they have 3 games listed for Saturday the 12:30 game, Liverpool at 3pm amd then the 5:30 game

    I though they were just restricted to showing one on satellite & the rest were online.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Schwanz wrote: »
    NBC in America now have just one 3pm Sat on their Sports Network & carry the rest on their Sports Gold pack which is a season ticket. There is a live channel active on Saturday 3pm on Apple that I have which can show the goals from the rest of the 3pms simultaneously. Goal Rush it's called.

    Yeah i used to watch a lot on the american/Canadian channels. NBC extra time or something it's called.
    tsn or sportsworld have them too

    If you've sky bundesliga they've a version of that called konference I think. Then alle spile alle tore straight after the 2:30s with the highlights


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