Time-traveller' who passed lie detector test gets global attention

Sin City

AI is set to rule the world and trump gets a second term

As much as I love reading about the future and time travel I doubt the authenticy

Fist 3 points are kinda obvious



Anyone like to weigh in

Among his predictions is the claim that Google Glass-style robotics will spread across the globe.

Technology will also have developed to the point where it will be able to independently run a home.

Bitcoin will be increasingly popular but pennies and cents will still be in use.

In 2030 he says the US president is a mysterious figure called Ilana Remikee.

He also suggests global warming has caused temperatures in North America to increase while Europe has cooled.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/918692/time-travel-proof-2030-trump-artificial-intelligence-apocalypse-aliens-end-of-the-world

gerrybbadd

Lie detector tests are hardly fool proof.

Sin City

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Lie detector tests are hardly fool proof.

I agree . Plus the whole thing sounds propstorius

My question is
If a real time traveler ever came back
would anyone believe him

Gravelly

Google couldn't even make Google Glass catch on.

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Sin City wrote: »

I agree . Plus the whole thing sounds propstorius

My question is
If a real time traveler ever came back
would anyone believe him

If they gave proper predictions near term. That or if they were half cyborg and shot laser out of their eyes... then maybe.

LionelNashe

Sin City wrote: »

I agree . Plus the whole thing sounds propstorius

My question is
If a real time traveler ever came back
would anyone believe him

It's hard to say what kind of proof would be acceptable. If the butterfly effect is strong enough, then his presence in our time might be enough to send ripples out that would change the future and make his predictions useless. Maybe if he had a few examples of amazing technology that was decades ahead of its time, that would be strong evidence. Or, if he brought the time-travel technology with him and made it available to the public, that would be proof.

Gravelly

Bet if you ask him to predict anything that will happen in the next week or two, he'll go very quiet....

ERG89

Gravelly wrote:

Bet if you ask him to predict anything that will happen in the next week or two, he'll go very quiet....

Liverpool & Man City will progress to the quarter finals the Champions League.

Sounds legit.

donegal_man

The Express has at least a few of these sort of stories every day. It's pure click bait along with their "eating this will prevent ...........", "immigrants destroying NHS", "world will end on Tuesday" rubbish. It's essentially a daily version of "Weekly World News" with added racism.

GreeBo

Surely if he is a time traveler then they are not "predictions"...

Sin City

Gravelly wrote: »

Bet if you ask him to predict anything that will happen in the next week or two, he'll go very quiet....

As was said if he came back he could alter the past so hes future could be slightly different to our future so hes predictions may never be accurate even if they were true

Riskymove

Sin City wrote: »

I agree . Plus the whole thing sounds propstorius

My question is
If a real time traveler ever came back
would anyone believe him

And why don't others come back and stop him revealing all.....

Sin City

donegal_man wrote: »

The Express has at least a few of these sort of stories every day. It's pure click bait along with their "eating this will prevent ...........", "immigrants destroying NHS", "world will end on Tuesday" rubbish. It's essentially a daily version of "Weekly World News" with added racism.

Its not just them though

Plenty of other sources are reporting it , Express was just the 1st link I saw

banie01

Surely finding our times Noah, and comparing his DNA to time traveller Noah would be much more a reliable indicator of the veracity of his time travel claim than the psuedo science of polygraphs?

4068ac1elhodqr

He claims the Donald will get re-elected in 2020, hard to doubt now.

Can't seem to get any odds for lana Remikee POTUS 2030, as he predicted.
Perhaps because there isn't likely even to be an election that year.

Gravelly

Sin City wrote: »

As was said if he came back he could alter the past so hes future could be slightly different to our future so hes predictions may never be accurate even if they were true

That's handy.


"I've got a 22 inch willy"

"Take it out and prove it then"

"I can't, if I take it out in daylight it shrinks to 6 inches"

Sin City

Riskymove wrote: »

And why don't others come back and stop him revealing all.....

That would assume they know
perhaps hes a rougue scientist gone back in time to warn us about the future

The end is nigh my friends
Kiss your loved ones goodbye and await the inevitable

Atlantic Dawn

Sounds like he's against using the time machine for financial gain.

padd b1975

Did he happen to mention anything about Cheltenham?

Gravelly

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Sounds like he's against using the time machine for financial gain.

Tell that to all the lads gone off to buy cheap bitcoin now that he's said it's a good investment.....

JeffKenna

In fairness I can see his point. If he tells us too much information about the near future it will disrupt the time continuum. Even the fact we are discussing this now means he's probably caused a ripple and hopefully adjusted the future.

Sin City

Still though
Could be a self fulfilling prophesy

Trump reads or see this on youtube
says right I can see now from this time traveler I will a second term
So I will run again in the next election

Gravelly

Sin City wrote: »

Still though
Could be a self fulfilling prophesy

Trump reads or see this on youtube
says right I can see now from this time traveler I will a second term
So I will run again in the next election

Causing the mysterious Ilana Remikee to rise up in anger and vow to wrest the presidency from him....

King Mob

JeffKenna wrote: »

In fairness I can see his point. If he tells us too much information about the near future it will disrupt the time continuum. Even the fact we are discussing this now means he's probably caused a ripple and hopefully adjusted the future.

Or you know, it's a convenient excuse to avoid making predictions that would be quickly be proven wrong.

However he could easily point to natural disasters that would not be affect by what's being talked about.
Or he could point to new astronomical events or discoveries that would be easy to check and verify.
Or he could point to some information that couldn't be known now, but could be easily verified, like for an example, the location of a sunken ship which is currently unknown, but is discovered in the future.
There's tons of ways that he could prove he's a time traveller.

He's not even a particularly good hoax.

4068ac1elhodqr

Gravelly wrote: »

Causing the mysterious Ilana Remikee to rise up in anger and vow to wrest the presidency from him....

Think he said she was the granddaughter of MLKing, and would become 'the pres' mid-term of Donald v2's in 2030, at the age of 21. The last thing she probably needs now is a few million unverified twitter follower requests whilst learning about elementary maths, rhymes or dinosaurs names.

Blackhorse Slim

"Ilana Ramikee" is an anagram of "I am a keen liar". Just saying.

gerrybbadd

Anyhow, sure isn't Donald trump meant to be a time traveller as well?

TomSweeney

Total bollocks

Riskymove

Riskymove wrote: »

And why don't others come back and stop him revealing all.....

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TomSweeney wrote: »

Total bollocks

Total & Utter Bollocks

Cheerful Spring

Who did the lie detector test, and the guy face is blocked he looks like 16 years old. Hardly had the life experience to be going through the time lol

Effects

Where's the video of the lie detector test? I just saw a guy on video with a blood pressure monitor cuff on his arm and some graphics and sound effects added in post.

Rashers

My great great great grandson says he never heard of him.

jaxxx

If he's from the future he can give me the numbers to this week's Euromillions!

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jaxxx wrote: »

If he's from the future he can give me the numbers to this week's Euromillions!

Off hand what were the numbers from last week?

This guy is mental or brazen, but he's unlikely to have randomly memorised the Irish lotto numbers for week beginning 12th of March, 2018. :pac:

Billgirlylegs

There are loads of time travellers on the horse racing forum
"horse A won't win"
"horse B wins by a street"
"even if he starts now he's not winning"

by8auj6csd3ioq

That is not a proper lie detector test which is in itself nonsesnse. But to do it properly there should be control questions and each questions should be yes or no. google the lie of the lie detector

briany

The predictions remind me of the stuff callers would come out with on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. They'd come out with a few that sounded plausible (at the time), plus one or two more fantastical ones to really whet your appetite.

by8auj6csd3ioq

whatever he says has a 50% chance of being right

RiderOnTheStorm

Stephen Hawking once put an ad in a newspaper inviting time travellers to a party in his house....the previous week. No one attended.

If time travel is theoretically possible, then surely its possible in years to come, even if it takes a thousand years. Then surely someone would travel back to this time? Unless there is an apartheid on the 20th / 21st century....

punisher5112

He said also if you type Google into Google search bar it breaks the tinternet.....

tayto lover

I think he said that Wenger was still in charge at Arsenal.

punisher5112

Did he put up the lotto numbers yet¿¿¿

daheff

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

Stephen Hawking once put an ad in a newspaper inviting time travellers to a party in his house....the previous week. No one attended.

If time travel is theoretically possible, then surely its possible in years to come, even if it takes a thousand years. Then surely someone would travel back to this time? Unless there is an apartheid on the 20th / 21st century....

Hawking was a dumb smart person. All this exercise proves is that nobody turned up at his party...not that time travel doesnt exist.


So what if the time travellers didnt read his newspaper? What if time travellers only invented time travel well into the future and never came back to the week of the invite.....so didnt know to go to his party?

Or what if time travellers just didnt want to go to his party?

JeffKenna

tayto lover wrote: »

I think he said that Wenger was still in charge at Arsenal.

Man City are going to win the League apparently.

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daheff wrote: »

Hawking was a dumb smart person.

Really :rolleyes: You think he didn't know? :pac: It was a publicity stunt, I think the man that discovered black holes aren't permanent and dissipate due to Hawking :P Radiation knew as much as you about what the limitations of this "experiment".

ShowMeTheCash

RiderOnTheStorm wrote: »

Stephen Hawking once put an ad in a newspaper inviting time travellers to a party in his house....the previous week. No one attended.

If time travel is theoretically possible, then surely its possible in years to come, even if it takes a thousand years. Then surely someone would travel back to this time? Unless there is an apartheid on the 20th / 21st century....

So there is hollywood time travel and there is time travel in the altering of how matter or information moves through time.

Time travel forward is possible, we are doing it right now, but for the most part we are all doing it at the same pace.

I think a good example and how to think about it is:
Mass, time and speed all have an impact on each other.

For example if two people sit on a park bench stationary we can suggest that all energy is being utilised by time and no energy is being spent by speed by both people at the same value.

Lets call the total value 100.

However if one person stands up and started walking some of this energy is transfered to the movement/speed of the object (person).

Speed = 10 for the person now walking which means time = 90
Person still sitting is still putting 100 to time and 0 to speed.

This causes a time dilation and the perceived time is now different for the two people.

What we are really talking about is the time travel back in time.

The idea that a person or a thing will travel back in time is probably the result of too many movies.

The real question is, would it be possible to transfer information?
If time travel is possible, it will not be people or flying cars, it will be photons and possible information.

Cheerful Spring

If time traveller was able to come back in time he going to be able to recall events in a clear and concise manner in an informational way that people would not know. Just say he went back to 1856 he probably be able to talk about real people and what happened and take souvenirs. Vague information that you can find out on the internet is a red flag. There is no evidence time travel exists period, at least so far:cool:

yoke

lie detector test is a load of bull****.

backward time travel as seen in movies - it doesn't make sense to me, unless you can first travel outside the universe. Which in itself doesn't make sense, since the "universe" encompasses "everything".

Then again, a lot of things don't make sense.

Imagine an object moving away from you at the speed of light in one direction. Now imagine a second object also moving directly away from you in the exact opposite direction to the first, also at the speed of light.
Relative to the second object, you should be moving at the speed of light in the same direction as the first object, and the first object should be moving at twice the speed of light in the same direction as you, thus breaking the speed-of-light limit, right? Apparently not.

Another thought experiment:

Imagine a stiff object 10 billion kilometres in length, floating in space. If you rotated it from it's middle point at the rate of 1 rotation per second, each of the ends should be moving at a speed in excess of 5 billion kilometres per second, breaking the speed of light. Instead, you get a spiral "wet noodle" effect.

If time travel as seen in movies is possible, then it means we never reached the stage to be able to use it.