How important is the economy

Ajsoprano

I’m not looking for a political debate. More a personal inside where your feelings are debate.

Say you had a government that did all sorts of bad things. Reprehensible some of them. All found out and reported in the media.

But an here’s the kicker they spent loads of money on advertising telling you the economy was great. You werent sure if it was or not but you thought it probably was.

Would you vote them back in because you were comfortable and didn’t want change and had a job and no time to be following every controversy or would you chance it on a different party.

Disclaimer this is not a political discussion thread. This is one of them questions that aren’t rhetorical but imaginary. It’s a thread about how you would react to it.

You have 4 options
1 the government in power
2 the old government who were a bit dodgey and corrupt but a bit nicer to the hobos and vagrants and salt of the earth types.
3 someone who has never been in charge and had criminals from wartime as its members but would probably have the same policies as the other two once they were in charge but claimed they wouldn’t.
4 a load of untested lads with making a beautiful world for all as there main goal but didn’t really say how they’d pay for it.

I can’t add a pole cause I’m not good at maths and I’ve nothing to add the pole to but if somebody can that’s be fair enough.

Ipso

No need for a pole, it's only February. May is a bit away.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Imaginary? You gave the scenarios for the political options we currently have.

As for advertising that the economy is in good shape; I think we'd know for ourselves what state the economy is in.

Is the economy important? Ultimately, it's all that matters. No decent economy means no money for anything else.


Keeping this out of a political debate and with such imaginary scenarios is neigh on impossible.

Ajsoprano

Ipso wrote: »

No need for a pole, it's only February. May is a bit away.

This election will be held in imagination land. So it can be anytime of the year.

Ajsoprano

Yahya Plump Limb wrote: »

Imaginary? You gave the scenarios for the political options we currently have.

As for advertising that the economy is in good shape; I think we'd know for ourselves what state the economy is in.

Is the economy important? Ultimately, it's all that matters. No decent economy means no money for anything else.


Keeping this out of a political debate and with such imaginary scenarios is neigh on impossible.

Now let’s not go comparing to the real world. We only have my options.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Now let’s not go comparing to the real world. We only have my options.

Then I abstain from voting on through the looking glass options.

Ajsoprano

Yahya Plump Limb wrote: »

Then I abstain from voting on through the looking glass options.

That’s your right. In imagination land your right to vote is as important as your right not to vote.

Ajsoprano

Ipso wrote: »

No need for a pole, it's only February. May is a bit away.

This has nothing to do with Theresa May.

Are Am Eye

On a scale of 1 to 23 I would it is about 17.

Ajsoprano

Are Am Eye wrote: »

On a scale of 1 to 23 I would it is about 17.

Option 4 to 23 has now been reclassified as option 4.

bear1

I've read the op twice and still don't have a clue what this is about.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Vote rigging. Nice one.

Ajsoprano

Yahya Plump Limb wrote: »

Vote rigging. Nice one.

They formed a coalition.

One eyed Jack

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Now let’s not go comparing to the real world. We only have my options.

But you've made it blatantly obvious from the opening post that your feelings regarding the type of government you want to run your imaginary economy are based on the current political parties in Ireland! :pac:

A question about peoples political views on the economy and what type of government they would want, but without the politics? Sure you don't need anyone else's opinions when you can just imagine the outcomes for yourself

Ajsoprano

bear1 wrote: »

I've read the op twice and still don't have a clue what this is about.

It’s a fairly simple fun thread where you have 4 choices and can choose one if you want.

Ajsoprano

One eyed Jack wrote: »

But you've made it blatantly obvious from the opening post that your feelings regarding the type of government you want to run your imaginary economy are based on the current political parties in Ireland! :pac:

A question about peoples political views on the economy and what type of government they would want, but without the politics? Sure you don't need anyone else's opinions when you can just imagine the outcomes for yourself

Jaysis
Can we just not have a fun thread. It’s not real.
You only know the things I said about the options.
I’m not going to make one party leader gay and one party leader a woman to make it easier to chose.

Owryan

So this thread is not about politics but it is about politics.

Oh and love how you not so subtly made it clear who each of the four parties are.

bear1

Ajsoprano wrote: »

It’s a fairly simple fun thread where you have 4 choices and can choose one if you want.

It's not that simple if you are saying it's not a political thread but then ask what we'd chose government wise?
You can't have an economy without a functioning government and any government needs politics so how do you do all that without descending into a political debate?
A more interesting idea would be a debate on how the country would look now say 1) the housing bubble of the 00s hadn't happened or 2) if it did happen and the government decided to let the banks fail.

Larbre34

The whole proposition is moot.

Vote in the current mob, vote in the other mob or vote in a rainbow of different mobs and you get the same thing anyway.

The Civil Service run the Country, not the Government. The Government may say its their policies, but really its just bashed into whatever shape the Civil Service want.

Its the same with Brexit in the UK, the Civil Service dont want it to happen, so it won't. It may be twisted and turned and upset caused, but eventually the British people will be instructed on whats best for them and accept it.

So vote for who you like, t'won't matter.

Ajsoprano

Owryan wrote: »

So this thread is not about politics but it is about politics.

Oh and love how you not so subtly made it clear who each of the four parties are.

Are you being sarcastic when you say you love it?

If I came on here saying snog marry avoid and named a b list celeb a footballer and the local historian would you find something it was about Im not Neil Young there is no hidden meaning.

AndyBoBandy

How important is the economy??

It’s more important than touching yourself.

But not as important as cheesecake.

Owryan

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Are you being sarcastic when you say you love it?

If I came on here saying snog marry avoid and named a b list celeb a footballer and the local historian would you find something it was about Im not Neil Young there is no hidden meaning.

Rather than give a not so vague description of each party why not just name them? It's fairly clear who you meant tbh.

Ajsoprano

bear1 wrote: »

It's not that simple if you are saying it's not a political thread but then ask what we'd chose government wise?
You can't have an economy without a functioning government and any government needs politics so how do you do all that without descending into a political debate?
A more interesting idea would be a debate on how the country would look now say 1) the housing bubble of the 00s hadn't happened or 2) if it did happen and the government decided to let the banks fail.

Ah they’ve been done to death and there’s a politics forum for that.

Donald Trump

Ipso wrote: »

No need for a pole, it's only February. May is a bit away.

Jaysus. You couldn't be more different than your mother

............There was no way she could have waited from Feb to May for some pole

Ajsoprano

Owryan wrote: »

Rather than give a not so vague description of each party why not just name them? It's fairly clear who you meant tbh.

Again I’m not neill young.

Owryan

And if it was really an imaginary scenario you could have made up some parties.

Instead you gave us the 4 parties that will contest the next real election but want people to pretend otherwise.

Ajsoprano

Owryan wrote: »

And if it was really an imaginary scenario you could have made up some parties.

Instead you gave us the 4 parties that will contest the next real election but want people to pretend otherwise.

I now know how John Lennon felt when he had a fan turn up at his house claiming all his songs were about him.

Owryan

One eyed Jack wrote: »

But you've made it blatantly obvious from the opening post that your feelings regarding the type of government you want to run your imaginary economy are based on the current political parties in Ireland! :pac:

A question about peoples political views on the economy and what type of government they would want, but without the politics? Sure you don't need anyone else's opinions when you can just imagine the outcomes for yourself

They are totally made up parties, they have absolutely no resemblance to any other political parties whatsoever......the op says so 🙄🙄

diomed

The opening post sounds like the history of Fianna Fail.
And yes, we did vote them in again.

Ajsoprano

Lads look.
It’s not important if you go through the history books or the world atlas and find such an election that resembled this one.

It’s a good connundrum what’s it matter if you think it resembles something from somewhere.

Owryan

Ajsoprano wrote: »

I now know how John Lennon felt when he had a fan turn up at his house claiming all his songs were about him.

You're not "Neill Young" but you are John Lennon pmsl

Ajsoprano

Owryan wrote: »

You're not "Neill Young" but you are John Lennon pmsl

I just want people to imagine all the parties, options one to four.

bear1

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Ah they’ve been done to death and there’s a politics forum for that.

Exactly, so my question is how do you decide which government to vote in without using politics?
The entire premise makes no sense.
Regardless if you think it's fun or not you are essentially asking would we want ff or fg back in government.
If it's the choice of those two then fg all day long.

Ajsoprano

bear1 wrote: »

Exactly, so my question is how do you decide which government to vote in without using politics?
The entire premise makes no sense.
Regardless if you think it's fun or not you are essentially asking would we want ff or fg back in government.
If it's the choice of those two then fg all day long.

There are 4 options in my question.
Which one is fg?

WoollyRedHat

Will any of these parties:

A) Increase productivity of jam tarts?
Make the size of them bigger?
C) Make them free for general consumption?
D) Protect the status of them?

Ajsoprano

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Will any of these parties:

A) Increase productivity of jam tarts?
Make the size of them bigger?
C) Make them free for general consumption?
D) Protect the status of them?

They will all tell you they will. The party in power will tell you they already have.

VinLieger

Going off the trend of this and your last thread i suspect you might be trying to get us all to do a bit of homework for you

Ajsoprano

I think most people trying to derail the thread would vote a certain option but don’t want to explain why.
It’s ok there is no judgement in imagination land.
You can write a big long reason or no reason at all.

Are Am Eye

Ajsoprano wrote: »

You can write a big long reason or no reason at all.

The reason is this

bear1

Ajsoprano wrote: »

There are 4 options in my question.
Which one is fg?

Options 1-4.

Ajsoprano

bear1 wrote: »

Options 1-4.

If you wrote that on the ballot paper it’d probably be the same as writing none of the above.
I think that’s like the freemen of Ireland strategy. If you need to poop on a public street a officer of the law must catch it in his hat apparently according to their views.
Imagination land has no such law.

VinLieger

Isnt option 4 basically exactly your argument from your last thread,?

You said we could create a global socialist utopia but ignored every request to explain how you would go about it

Birneybau

I've no idea why I read this thread to the end.

ChikiChiki

I think FG over their time in power have proved the economy comes first and society second. Sadly.

Ajsoprano

VinLieger wrote: »

Isnt option 4 basically exactly your argument from your last thread,?

You said we could create a global socialist utopia but ignored every request to explain how you would go about it

You don’t need a money tree in a world with no money. So no option 4 is nothing like the last thread.

Ajsoprano

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I think FG over their time in power have proved the economy comes first and society second. Sadly.

Who?
What option is that?

ectoraige

Ajsoprano wrote: »

This election will be held in imagination land. So it can be anytime of the year.

I pronounce myself king and execute the dissenters.

Long Live The King!

VinLieger

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Who?
What option is that?

Its imagination land so we are allowed come up with our own options, personally im voting for the crab people in option 42

Ajsoprano

VinLieger wrote: »

Its imagination land so we are allowed come up with our own options, personally im voting for the crab people in option 42

Another none of the above vote

VinLieger

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Another none of the above vote

What happened to imagination land?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

VinLieger wrote: »

What happened to imagination land?

I feel it's a dictatorship, where only the divine leader's imagination is permitted.