GAA have banned all sponsorship from betting companies

Cienciano

Though this was interesting. Fair play to the GAA imho, a step in the right direction. Would be good to see other sports do the same.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/betting-companies-booted-out-of-sponsorship-in-the-gaa-36639062.html

ziggy

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blindside88

It’s a great move, my dad was involved in managing a local under 16 and 18 team a few years ago and he said after most training sessions and matches you would have lads asking about the score in the Barcelona/Liverpool/Bayern Munich etc. match that had been going on as they had a bet on it. I’ve been gambling since I was about 16 and I would have been I’m the minority of my friends in relation to this. Now it seems the complete opposite about teens. I step in the right direction from the gaa

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ziggy wrote: »

Alcohol next?

Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later

biko

Well done GAA

mzungu

A good move. Let's hope others follow suit.

Cienciano

blindside88 wrote: »

It’s a great move, my dad was involved in managing a local under 16 and 18 team a few years ago and he said after most training sessions and matches you would have lads asking about the score in the Barcelona/Liverpool/Bayern Munich etc. match that had been going on as they had a bet on it. I’ve been gambling since I was about 16 and I would have been I’m the minority of my friends in relation to this. Now it seems the complete opposite about teens. I step in the right direction from the gaa

I think it's the ease of online gambling.

ancapailldorcha

Completely agree with this. Used to work in a betting shop and it's good to see the GAA making a stand here.

freshpopcorn

What about the banks as well. They gave people ridiculous amounts of money which they never had a hope of paying back which resulted in lots of despair for people.

diomed

A backward step by a backward organisation.

conorhal

I know a few people involved in the sport at a club level and they all say that gambling is the number one biggest personal problem effecting people in their clubs. Apparently it's endemic for whatever reason and some clubs have even put support structures in place for members with a gambling problem.

Personally I hate gambling, it's the worst addiction. You can only take so many drugs, you can only drink so much before you physically can't or it kills you, but you can gamble everything you have and then go into debt and gamble what you don't without limit, it's an utterly destructive addiction that's largely viewed as harmless and thus often invisible and under discussed compared with other addiction problems, but no less impacting on many lives.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I suppose it makes sense that gambling is the number 1 problem in the GAA. If you're a junkie or alcoholic then the chances are you're not fit to tog out for athletic performance but you can be young, fit and healthy and still have a serious gambling problem.
Then there's the simple fact that if you play a sport it goes without saying that you're invested in sport, somebody like me that has no interest in sports is pretty unlikely to bet on it as I've no investment in where Manchester United place in the league or how many goals they might score, but somebody involved and invested in sport might be more tempted to bet on it.

I think it's a positive that the GAA are taking a stance on an issue effecting it's members.

buried

Well done the GAA. Bookmakers can go and f**k off to the seventh circle of septic tank hell.

Gavlor

Good news and done for the right reasons.

It’s great that the sky deal will be ended as a result of this move.

https://m.skybet.com/

Your Face

I was wondering how long.

Cienciano

Cienciano wrote: »

Though this was interesting. Fair play to the GAA imho, a step in the right direction. Would be good to see other sports do the same.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/betting-companies-booted-out-of-sponsorship-in-the-gaa-36639062.html

Except if anybody remembers about 5 years ago there was a big campaign to get sports organisations to stop accepting alcohol sponsorship. Fair enough; I completely agree with that. However, the usual drones used it as a stick to bash the GAA in particular. The GAA dropped Guinness as the main sponsor of the A-I Hurling Championship.

Did soccer and rugby follow? Not a chance. The Heineken Cup and all those soccer jerseys advertising alcohol continue to give millions to both sports, and the campaign died once the GAA was forced to give up its lucrative alcohol sponsorship.

I look forward to a ban on all alcohol advertising across the EU.

fair play to them. convincing vote too.

mikeym

Theres way too much Gambling adverts over in the UK, just look at any live Premier League match offering live odds on the next scorer.

Fair play to the GAA for the ban but they get loads of money from the Government and Sky.

OldMrBrennan83

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Fr Tod Umptious

ziggy wrote: »

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Since the ending of the Guninness co-sponsorship of the hurling championship a few years ago the GAA has not has a drinks sponsor for any national competition.

It even greatly diminished at county level too,

expectationlost

how about a ban anyone on official team gambling

Fr Tod Umptious

mikeym wrote: »

Theres way too much Gambling adverts over in the UK, just look at any live Premier League match offering live odds on the next scorer.

Fair play to the GAA for the ban but they get loads of money from the Government and Sky.

I think it's a great move but betting companies are not as prevelant in their advertising and sponsorship as they are in English soccer.

The EPL reach into the Asian market has made it a magnet for gambling promotions.

ismat

Do people think that banning the likes of paddy power from sponsoring a gaa team will stop people gambling? If people want to have a bet they will whether or not some betting company’s name is on a jersey. Would you not be better to take as much sponsorship as possible from whatever company is willing to give it and use the money for the overall good of the sport

Arghus

Good. It'll be the drink sponsorship next.

mdwexford

Stupid.

uch

Why bite the hand that feed you, small minded as usual GAA

Atlantic Dawn

I presume they will still pocket the dime from the Lottery as that's great craic unlike the bukeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss.

conorhal

ismat wrote: »

Do people think that banning the likes of paddy power from sponsoring a gaa team will stop people gambling? If people want to have a bet they will whether or not some betting company’s name is on a jersey. Would you not be better to take as much sponsorship as possible from whatever company is willing to give it and use the money for the overall good of the sport

It's not about stopping people gambling, it's about not taking money from an industry that you feel is harming your members, which would be hypocritical. You can't say, there's a problem with gambling in our clubs and it's harming our members, but we're happy to take money from an industry that is harming our members. It's about a principle and being an example of that principle.

nice_guy80

uch wrote: »

Why bite the hand that feed you, small minded as usual GAA

how does gambling feed the gaa?

diomed

The problem is losing at gambling.
That may sound cynical, but like world hunger, alcoholism, homelessness, unemployment, gambling addiction is not a problem that will ever be eradicated.
You may be able to help some individuals.

I'm sure the GAA have another advertiser lined up.

Yer Da sells Avon

Fair play to the GAA. I hope snooker bans it too. A lot of players (John Virgo, Willie Thorne, Mark King) have suffered from serious gambling addictions. Not to mention the various gambling-related frame-throwing incidents (Quinten Hann, John Higgins, Stephen Lee) that have hit the game over the years. And despite all this, all the major tournaments sell naming rights to the gambling industry. Morally, they're no better than the tobacco industry.

kippy

Patww79 wrote: »

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I welcome the GAA's decision however there are a few things that they'd need to square up also to keep the message standard across the board.
Nearly every club in the country relys on a weekly lotto for income. Hard to have the moral high ground when that is ongoing.

As for your suggestion that this is about eejits without self control.
I have major issues with gambling advertising, particularily in, on or during premierleague or soccer matches in general on TV. It makes brand awareness and acceptability of gambling as "normal" past-time more evident amongst the youngest in society.

While things aren't perfect in the GAA, I do welcome this banning of gambling sponsorship and one has to give them some kudos for that.

Pete Tong

ismat wrote: »

Do people think that banning the likes of paddy power from sponsoring a gaa team will stop people gambling? If people want to have a bet they will whether or not some betting company’s name is on a jersey. Would you not be better to take as much sponsorship as possible from whatever company is willing to give it and use the money for the overall good of the sport

Yes. I do. At least it will stop new people from starting gambling.
Paddy power only sponsor GAA to make more money. This is the only reason.

It is advertising. If the advertising didn't work, then Paddy Power wouldn't do it.

Gambling companies are the scourge of the ****ing earth.

Atlantic Dawn

You could look around the billboards at Croke Park and have issues with 80% plus of those advertising, from banks who were run badly to fast food and snack companies that are a bad lifestyle choice etc etc.

Popeleo

Fair play to the GAA! And I say that as an urban non-fan (I like to watch some hurling but their football sends me to sleep).

Knowing a couple of people that have run into huge personal problems because of gambling, I think it is a very positive step.
When I see almost half of the Premiership soccer jerseys with gambling sponsorship, it annoys me greatly.
It might be aimed mainly at the Chinese but that doesn't mean that it isn't a problem for everyone.

Popeleo

And speaking of the Sassanach ball, those ads with Ray Winstone are disgusting and should be banned:

GAMBLE!
GAMBLE!
GAMBLE!
GAMBLE!






(Gamble responsibly)

_Dara_

ismat wrote: »

Do people think that banning the likes of paddy power from sponsoring a gaa team will stop people gambling? If people want to have a bet they will whether or not some betting company’s name is on a jersey. Would you not be better to take as much sponsorship as possible from whatever company is willing to give it and use the money for the overall good of the sport

Advertising works. Otherwise, why do it? So, yeah, I expect this move will help somewhat.

bodice ripper

The bookies is a trap house.

conorhal

bodice ripper wrote: »

The bookies is a trap house.

When I was in Vegas I couldn't help but look at the insane opulence of the casinos there and think, none of this was built on winners....

People can whine about the banks etc. but when an entire industries profits are ONLY based on their customers loosing, you really have to wonder who would want to support that.

Ray Donovan

It’s virtually impossible to put an alcohol sponsorship ban in place in the GAA. How many small rural clubs would lose their only source of sponsorship income i.e the local pub. The backlash from members would be huge.

Chrongen

Not a gambler myself. Never have been. But if people want to gamble then they can if they want.

I just find those ads for online betting and Ray Winstone with his "we gamble responsibly" geezer talk all a bit sleazy and predatory.

Who gambles "responsibly"?

It's not banning something it's just banning advertising it and glamourising it.

You see a bunch of fairly cool lads on a couch with a pizza and some beers and a few girls in the room and they're all supposed to be watching some sports event and then one jumps on his phone and places a bet on something and it's all like "Friends"

Kermit.de.frog

diomed wrote: »

The problem is losing at gambling.
That may sound cynical, but like world hunger, alcoholism, homelessness, unemployment, gambling addiction is not a problem that will ever be eradicated.
You may be able to help some individuals.

I'm sure the GAA have another advertiser lined up.

We could do more to tackle the cynicism. What will you see beside every pub practically in the country?

A gambling joint.

Why? They prey on the vulnerable (in this case drunks).

I hate the ads, I hate the negligence and I hate the life changing damage done by this industry to countless people and families all over this country.

The more restrictions the better.

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gammygils

So that's Tobacco, Alcohol, Betting...What next? Fast food joints? That's Galway shagged! :P

OldMrBrennan83

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cul beag

An issue that needs to be addressed is the betting on club games within counties. These are the ones that need to be banned in my opinion. I played with a guy that had the opposition backed to win the championship and whom we happened to play against in the quarterfinals.Not alone was he our free taker but he went on to put 2 penalties over the bar during the course of the game! We lost by 2pts. Probably didn’t help that he was the opposition’s trainer aswell since the start of that season.
As it turns out they did go on to win the championship!

Patww79

Patww79 wrote: »

Seriously, that'll be the next crusade. You can count on it.

Absolutely, and it's long overdue. Far too many obese people in Ireland undermining the economy and health system with their lack of energy/succumbing to the unrestrained multi-billion euro propaganda/advertising of the junk food industry.

When the state interferes in the economy to put in place infrastructure - roads, educated workforce, low corporation taxes, etc - for the junk food/alcohol etc industries to flourish it's acceptable; when it interferes in the economy to reduce the harm their products do it's suddenly "nanny state".

Some very right-wing puppeteers pulling that particular string.

InfoSponge

Fair play to the GAA. Gambling addiction is ruining so many lives and the lives of so many families of the Gambling addict. I'm a compulsive gambler in recovery myself and I am astounded by the stupidity of some people when it comes to talking about people in addiction.

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Talking out your arse about something you clearly don't have a clue about. Self control/Will power...what ever way you want to package it up has less than 1% the power of addiction.

OldMrBrennan83

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InfoSponge

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Not the first topic that poster has had a bizarre take on. I'd assume it's a troll account and move on.

Thank you Deedsie. Once I seen another reply from the same account I realised my thumb use had been in vain. The advertising is everywhere it's nearly every second add now. It shows how much they are making and primarily from people with compulsive gambling addiction no matter how much they deny that. People that can gamble as a pass time or a bit of fun can place a bet once a week or when the football is on and walk back out the door. The bookmakers make their money on us who can't leave the shop or close the laptop or the app on the phone who have to have bets going 24/7.

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