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Biological males in women's sport
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Widdershins wrote: »On your first paragraph, thank you for bringing this to wider attention. That s exactly the situation. I'm just surprised that there isn't a thread on Sex Self ID and the proposed amendment to the Gender Recognition Act (UK).
It was kept fairly quiet but some womens right groups have managed to raise awareness over in the UK. There was an online public consultation with little coverage until right before the closing date, with some (biased) tv discussions including one with a panel that included Una Mulally giving ''The Irish Perspective.'' Unfortunately Una gave her own perspective, which I don't think reflects Irish views since not many Irish seem aware that we had a form of self id brought in very quietly. Our law is used as an example of self id ''with no problems'' but there are key differences between this law here and the proposed amendment in the UK (where they now have at least 500,000 people identifying as some form of transgender, compared to the original -5,000 transsexuals the original GRA was created for. https://womansplaceuk.org/the-irish-question/?fbclid=IwAR2muMpCI-GFxPKmyiJFTohZDskJrEgqeTE9QMZ44o8wCWK88M89k4gTEzI
On the second paragraph,There's been some anecdotal reports of trans identifying male bodied people (aka transwomen) turning up for smear tests. It's not too clear if there was an admin mistake resulting in invitations being sent to them.
Just to stay on topic, there's been a report of another incident involving a transwoman competing against a natal woman, this time in MMA. https://www.bjjee.com/articles/transgender-mma-fighter-breaks-female-opponents-skull-are-we-getting-too-politically-correct-with-reality/?fbclid=IwAR0kVDnOI2har4kUlsgZ4EgS25IxtCPAy7mNNj08b5sKvKZRN8vTHq9r_9k
I'm going to go all out there now
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I have this friend abroad, a philosopher and all round perceptive dude, who suggests that Ireland might be a bit of a test tube for 'progressive' experiments - the very early and very quiet introduction of Self ID for gender could serve as one example of this incremental 'progressivism' promoted in a well-funded economy dependent now on global corporatism. That policy is now being used abroad as an example of how supposedly harmless gender erasure really could be.
And that is what it really amounts to - erasure - no difference between the sexes in the species. All of us can be equally consuming machines. The erasure is generally happening first regarding women though - transmen do not seem to be muscling in so heavily on male spaces, or begging to be in the boxing ring with the lads. Although having said, that there is an argument to be made that male erasure is taking place elsewhere, like in academia, for example.
Anyways, not saying I buy in to such ideas, but our political classes can be embarrassingly light-weight and eager to please outside authorities.0 -
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Hahahah!! ''Socially Aware Stevxn'' the account on Twitter - I cannot tell if it is a parody account or not, that is how bad things are! Could he really be such a total fecken wimp?
Edit - my detectors were faulty there for a minute, it's a joke account (has to be!). Well played Stevxn0 -
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I'm going to go all out there now ...
I have this friend abroad, a philosopher and all round perceptive dude, who suggests that Ireland might be a bit of a test tube for 'progressive' experiments - the very early and very quiet introduction of Self ID for gender could serve as one example of this incremental 'progressivism' promoted in a well-funded economy dependent now on global corporatism. That policy is now being used abroad as an example of how supposedly harmless gender erasure really could be.
And that is what it really amounts to - erasure - no difference between the sexes in the species. All of us can be equally consuming machines. The erasure is generally happening first regarding women though - transmen do not seem to be muscling in so heavily on male spaces, or begging to be in the boxing ring with the lads. Although having said, that there is an argument to be made that male erasure is taking place elsewhere, like in academia, for example.
Anyways, not saying I buy in to such ideas, but our political classes can be embarrassingly light-weight and eager to please outside authorities.
Your friend was onto something.
The trans activist lobby have quite cleverly hijacked the gay right movements and that association is partly what prevents people from voicing concerns.
Anything other than affirmation by mental health proffesionals is described as ''conversion therapy'' by the prominent trans activist organisations. Some have spoken out publicly about this. But there is a vast difference between a cautious approach to a gender questioning child/teenager/patient, and gay conversion therapy.
Have you heard of the campaigns to change female descriptors to gender neutral?
Once upon a time it was a US college campus phenomenon but now in the UK it's encroaching on healthcare (and womens health forums/discussion groups online ), breastfeeding support groups, anywhere where women have occasion to mention terminology around female biology.
It's worth looking up the Standing For Women campaign about the definition of a woman, ''Adult Human Female''. The furious reaction to a billboard simply stating the definition was very revealing.
Among other issues I don't think Boards threads have covered, is the Girl Guides scandal and the schools toolkits devised by ''gender charity'' Mermaids. Some very eyebrow raising material there.
Numerous UK schools also implemented a new rule banning female students from wearing the uniform skirt because it was in some way bothersome to trans identifying male students.
Just a handful of examples. It's women and girls being affected more and more. It has been compared to a Mens Rights movement in disguise.0 -
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Widdershins wrote: »Your friend was onto something.
The trans activist lobby have quite cleverly hijacked the gay right movements and that association is partly what prevents people from voicing concerns.
Anything other than affirmation by mental health proffesionals is described as ''conversion therapy'' by the prominent trans activist organisations. Some have spoken out publicly about this. But there is a vast difference between a cautious approach to a gender questioning child/teenager/patient, and gay conversion therapy.
Have you heard of the campaigns to change female descriptors to gender neutral?
Once upon a time it was a US college campus phenomenon but now in the UK it's encroaching on healthcare (and womens health forums/discussion groups online ), breastfeeding support groups, anywhere where women have occasion to mention terminology around female biology.
It's worth looking up the Standing For Women campaign about the definition of a woman, ''Adult Human Female''. The furious reaction to a billboard simply stating the definition was very revealing.
Among other issues I don't think Boards threads have covered, is the Girl Guides scandal and the schools toolkits devised by ''gender charity'' Mermaids. Some very eyebrow raising material there.
Numerous UK schools also implemented a new rule banning female students from wearing the uniform skirt because it was in some way bothersome to trans identifying male students.
Just a handful of examples. It's women and girls being affected more and more. It has been compared to a Mens Rights movement in disguise.
yes, I'm aware of most of this, I keep a watching brief, much to my husbands annoyance - he says to me these days, fcuk off if it's another transgender story, I don't care
But I do care.
One of the main instigators of the Woman = Adult Human Female is Posie Parker who is a friend of a friend. She is treated terribly, banned from Twitter, and receives awful hate mail, and sometimes police harrassment, all for saying that a woman means a woman. I would not affiliate myself with her kind of feminism, it's the kind that eats its children, but I admire her overall, her stubborness, her willingness to be public and the ladylike way she says...''Lo and Be-Fcuking-Hold!''
Edit = just adding Posie saying Lo and BefcukingHold haha... happens after a minute or so (at 3.30 ish..)
https://twitter.com/sargesalute/status/10389391001565184000 -
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