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Severe Weather Snow / Ice Weds 28 FEB ( Onwards ) ** READ MOD NOTE POST#1**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,448 ✭✭✭✭joes girls


    aidanodr wrote: »
    Most of our schools are closed too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Nice heat in the sun now. Went for a spin,drifts over ditches still,some roads starting to flood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    ..and the further outlook for next winter
    BLANK

    Whats that ?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Parts of clondalkin is a mess. Half-arsed road clearance means the majority of our main road is still under 2ft of snow as of 1hr ago. A number of buses are curtailed and I dont see an immediate thaw tomorrow morning either. There's damaged kerbs on the fonthill road I noticed too. Damaged speedbumps in Bawnogue.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Whats that ?

    Sunspot activity. A lack of sunspot activity can be directly corellated to weather outcomes on earth. Less activity=colder weather


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Freezing cold, overcast, raining, foggy, grey slush on the ground

    Please come back snow :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Sunspot activity. A lack of sunspot activity can be directly corellated to weather outcomes on earth. Less activity=colder weather

    I think Ive heard about this before..some mad lad james masden or something was always banging on about that and everyone thought we were going to always have cold winters due to sunspot activity after the two cold ones 2009 and 2010..but then it was just pretty normal winters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,448 ✭✭✭✭joes girls


    Back in the land of the living:D
    No ESB for 2 full days, no running water. Only for our local farmer clearing our road we would be still Snowed in. Lost the gutter of the Back of our house, pulled my hamstring out playing in the snow (up above knee high) but you know what, it was all EPIC, I actually loved it all.
    Thanks to this thread I was stocked up well with food and fuel and prepared for the BIG SNOW of 2018, Thank you all:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I think Ive heard about this before..some mad lad james masden or something was always banging on about that and everyone thought we were going to always have cold winters due to sunspot activity after the two cold ones 2009 and 2010..but then it was just pretty normal winters

    I've been talking about solar activity multiple times here wakka12 :p.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    I've been talking about solar activity multiple times here wakka12 :p.

    Yes sorry I know :)
    I just meant I recall that guy talking about years and years ago and nothing really came of it,even the media caught on and mentioned it as reason why we'd have loads more cold winters coming, but not much explanation as to why it would directly cause them, so wondering if it is actually a very important factor or not for cold winters


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Musefan


    Management company cleared the road and behind cars so we could get out, but it was a tight squeeze and we cleared a bit more from around our car and ferried it away to the grass where it wouldn't get in the way. The neighbour pulled his car out there and just kicked all the snow on his side over behind our car so he could get out :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Yes sorry I know :)
    I just meant I recall that guy talking about years and years ago and nothing really came of it, so wondering if it is actually a very important factor or not for cold winters

    It is very important. The large majority of the coldest Winters occur just before, during or just after solar minimum here in our country like 2008-09, 2009-10, 2010-11, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1986-87, 1985-86, 1984-85, 1976-77, 1977-78, 1978-79, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1954-55, 1955-56... it goes on and on.

    Does not mean you can't get mild Winters though around this period, it's just a far less likely occurrence.

    Just like you don't need to be at this part of the solar cycle to get cold Winters - 1990/91, 2000/01 and 2012/13 for example were around solar maximum periods.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 actaphobia


    One annoying feature of this clear-up is people who block the entire footpath with pile ups of snow when clearing their drive.

    Also, some businesses are clearly not doing enough to clear-up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    The missus showed me a cool picture from Facebook, ESB truck near Curracloe and the snow on either side of it higher than the truck itself.
    Hassle for motorists in Enniscorthy with a gang of travellers between about 13 to 18 years of age throwing snow and ice at cars, nearly several collisions already cos of it. A few unhappy people confronted them and got nothing only lip and abuse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    It is very important. The large majority of the coldest Winters occur just before, during or just after solar minimum here in our country like 2008-09, 2009-10, 2010-11, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1986-87, 1985-86, 1984-85, 1976-77, 1977-78, 1978-79, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1954-55, 1955-56, 1946-47.... it goes on and on.
    The famous winter of 46/47 was closer to solar maximum it seems -

    https://www.nature.com/articles/213379b0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    The famous winter of 46/47 was closer to solar maximum it seems -

    https://www.nature.com/articles/213379b0

    Stupid mistake I made there. For some reason, I recall solar minimum happening in late 1945, but it was early 1944.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Rodin wrote: »
    If you read correctly you'd have seen the request to help clear snow came from the SCHOOL. Not from parents. With the threat of the school not being opened if the snow wasn't cleared. It is not unreasonable to ask why the staff of the school are not clearing that snow rather than children's parents.

    ''We got a text from my daughter's school last night asking for volunteers to help clear snow around the paths and entrances to the school, otherwise it'll have to remain closed on Monday.
    Seeing that it's been closed since Tuesday evening, I have a feeling there will be no shortage of volunteers with their shovels later. ''

    As regards the west/northwest the government got it completely wrong.
    No need to shut down the northwest as well as the south east. Hospital patients cancelled. Shops shut. Schools shut. Transport stopped.
    All completely unnecessary in the north west.

    Did you get the rise you expected by posting totally whacko comments ?

    There is life after the north west.

    I suggest you either invent a device that predicts acceptable weather patterns or otherwise get a job with the Emergency Coordination Committee.

    You can then play God and watch people die.

    And your expectations that the teachers shovel the snow is daft. They should probably call down to your gaf and shovel it too so your kids can attend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Steve F


    Well Lads and Lasses That little spell of Snow will keep you satisfied for another 10 or 15 years right? 😋


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    It is very important. The large majority of the coldest Winters occur just before, during or just after solar minimum here in our country like 2008-09, 2009-10, 2010-11, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1986-87, 1985-86, 1984-85, 1976-77, 1977-78, 1978-79, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1954-55, 1955-56... it goes on and on.
    Of course the Maunder Minimum of the 17th C was accompanied by unlikely events such as the Thames freezing over, but the physical mechanism that explains how sunspot numbers can affect climate is still unknown it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    It looks like almost every secondary school closed tomorrow in Co Wexford..
    Marshalstown primary school open and that place was under 8 foot drifts only yesterday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Well the Community finally came together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Well the Community finally came together.

    There's always someone in a t-shirt!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    sdanseo wrote: »
    There's always someone in a t-shirt!!

    He looks like he has a good sweat on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Lepidoptera


    Yeah there were only a few of us with proper snow shovels but everyone made do with what shovels and gear we had - great feeling to work together like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    STB. wrote: »
    Did you get the rise you expected by posting totally whacko comments ?

    There is life after the north west.

    I suggest you either invent a device that predicts acceptable weather patterns or otherwise get a job with the Emergency Coordination Committee.

    You can then play God and watch people die.

    And your expectations that the teachers shovel the snow is daft. They should probably call down to your gaf and shovel it too so your kids can attend.

    Not a bit of snow where I am.
    Have you not been listening?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,523 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    ^^ Oops! A friend must have borrowed my phone and been reading some other saucy guff. I'll edit that later on desktop.
    😉😂😂


    I think all climates are too compromised. If you keep a car for a few years, just buy a set of winters on steels or alloys and sure when you're using them, you can't be using the others. It's not a huge outlay. I picked up proper offroad Dunlop SJ6s for a CRVsecondhand and changed over in late October. A few awareness moments when temps lifted to 13c, but overall, have been quite happy all winter and practically unstoppable during this event. That was in 6-8 inches of fresh lying snow.
    Even save your tyre change and just get a pre 1997 Pajero Junior. Very poor road manners but absolutely unstoppable little full-on 4x4. Lots of hunters use them as a cheap hobby vehicle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭thebiglad


    sdanseo wrote: »
    There's always someone in a t-shirt!!

    We cleared our estate estate earlier - I was in a t shirt than, so long as you're working don't feel the cold.

    Shovelling tons of snow is hot work!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,619 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    We all cleared a massive route through our road and around the corner. Ensured everyone could get in and out. One of the neighbours than decided to park along where we all had cleared and now has been gone for 2 days. Neighbours not happy as we ball now still need today rive through the snow and slush. More concerning is how quickly the car can kick in it, and it would smash into that neighbours car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Snowing at Knock airport since 3:30.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    thebiglad wrote: »
    We cleared our estate estate earlier - I was in a t shirt than, so long as you're working don't feel the cold.

    Shovelling tons of snow is hot work!
    Latest red warning - fat lads may keel over from shovelling too much snow :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Latest red warning - fat lads may keel over from shovelling too much snow :pac:

    This is a thing. One US doctor says it's so dangerous no one over 55 should even try.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-30119410


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭Mafra


    Sad to see it all melt in general. Would have been great to get a few days of cold dry weather afterward to get another day or two before it turns to mush. I only got out and about yesterday to do some real scouting about but boy was it worth it.
    There is at least one family living on this road and still trapped in their house.

    Don’t see scenes too often like this in Ireland..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    Cleared our road yesterday.... the old man and myself started about 9:30 and by 12 was still just the 2 of us.
    Eventually had a way out about 1:30 when a 2 neighbours came out to help.

    The back is stiff today along with the shoulders and ham strings :D

    Once I got out the lads put a toll on anyone else coming or going haha.... €1 to get in, €2 to get out.
    By the time i got back they had about €35 made :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    So iv finally got a chance to sit down and relax knowing its all over. The drive has been cleared the road out of the estate has been cleared (by shovel) and the main routes have been cleared so driving is now possible.


    It was good to see people help each other out and seeing the council staff, fire men/women, army personnel etc all doing their bit was great to see and i for one am very thankful. Also the people who had tractors and the likes out clearing the snow deserve a massive shout out as alot of places would still be buried in snow only for them.

    I have never seen snow as bad as i did and while it was amazing for a couple of days id be happy if it stayed as a rare occurence. :D

    Im going to sit back now and gently fall asleep dreaming of what just happened and when i wake up ill be happy i wont have to shovel a street full of snow and dig out cars from massive drifts for a while. :D

    Lets hope any flooding is kept to a minimum and that people come out the other side of this without untold damage.

    Oh and a big thank you to all of those who predicted this on Boards. I always follow the weather here and ye all do a great job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    sdanseo wrote: »
    There's always someone in a t-shirt!!

    In Fairness it was a monumental effort and the lads who get a lot of stick on this forum led the charge.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 562 ✭✭✭haminka


    Cleared our road yesterday.... the old man and myself started about 9:30 and by 12 was still just the 2 of us.
    Eventually had a way out about 1:30 when a 2 neighbours came out to help.

    The back is stiff today along with the shoulders and ham strings :D

    Once I got out the lads put a toll on anyone else coming or going haha.... €1 to get in, €2 to get out.
    By the time i got back they had about €35 made :D

    Yep, me and my other half had some shovelling done too. At 6.3 stone and 5ft myself, I had a great workout, who needs a gym. Back and arms stiff today too but it was fun. Everybody was shovelling around, my husband was helping a neighbour who was heading out to Dublin due to family emergency so all pitched in. We had two JCBs running around today so could get out which is great news. And the local Domino's were offering 50% discount for orders for collection. Can't complain about that, can you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭kavanagh_h


    Hi I have to get to a funeral outside of charleville on n 20. Leaving from Slane tmrw morning. Can anyone tell me what the conditions are like on this route please and would it be madness to consider going. Would be going the m7 and m20 route. Reckon i can get to m50 m7 fine but a bit worried after that. Also is this the best thread to ak this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,543 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    very glad of boards to have some very interesting posts and warnings to let us know whats ahead thanks guys,until the same time next week? maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    Kermit, Sryanbruen, what is your take on a possible cold re-load in a weeks time?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    That was an amazing couple of days lads. Fair play to the people who called it. Here in Cork was incredible, most snowfall I've seen in the city. Around roads by the airport were just stunning, drifts up to a metre blocking local roads. I didn't get the chance to post, I had an unfortunate but deserved infraction imposed on me so I couldn't post updates. Amazing stuff, would love to do it all again sometime.

    Going to sit down and watch the telly for the night with the last remaining cms of snow covering the back garden.

    A photo of the Airport hill from Saturday morning for you all from one of the local football clubs on twitter. http://https://twitter.com/DouglasHallAFC/status/969513708652322816


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    Hi, I have an appointment in the Hermitage clinic tomorrow AM. Will be coming from Athlone area. Any issues in the lucan/liffey valley area?
    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Amalgam wrote: »
    I've quite likely lost a cat to this storm, sadly. The guilt is like a billiard ball in my chest/under my skin.

    I was looking after someone's cat and I warned them that he was a nervous wreck due to local, uneutered cats.. He wasn't making himself available for food/to be fed.. and to maybe put him up in care, no.. said they'd chance it. I haven't seen him in 48 hours. :(

    He weathered the last two flurries okay, over the years, by making himself available to various neighbours, but.. it is brutal now, the road and gardens are spotless, no details to mark them out. Drifts everywhere. Well above the height of a cat.

    Our regular fox, like clockwork, is doing his rounds of the gardens, same time, same tracks, the only disturbance in the snow.

    He came back today, with ice cold legs and hungry.. the ungrateful, evasive little git.

    Ratty and demanding, got his food then fecked off again..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    gyppo wrote: »
    Hi, I have an appointment in the Hermitage clinic tomorrow AM. Will be coming from Athlone area. Any issues in the lucan/liffey valley area?
    Thanks!

    Hermitage will be fine, they have been de-icing ever since the snow started falling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Rodin wrote: »
    My point is they're happy enough to ask parents above their own staff.
    To continue the ‘digging’ theme...

    You’re at the bottom of the hole. You can stop now. Good man.


  • Registered Users Posts: 562 ✭✭✭haminka


    Amalgam wrote: »
    He came back today, with ice cold legs and hungry.. the ungrateful, evasive little git.

    Ratty and demanding, got his food then fecked off again..

    Mine didn't want to get out of the house. The first taste of the icky white stuff and they turned around and went back inside. They are total outdoor gangsters, just hate the snow. I had to install a temporary loo for them and when it wasn't cleaned immediately in the evening, my older cat peed into my walking boots while I was standing beside him cleaning something else.
    The younger one tried using it again this morning before I dismantled it. I grabbed her, successfully manage to avoid the claws and teeth all ready to sink in and threw her out of the door (then raced to the cat flap and barely managed to close it before she got back). No excuses now, the toilet is outside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    There no indication that teachers aren’t getting involved in the digging. They’re probably looking for as many hands as they can get. A teacher replied to you on this thread very thread to say that they’d be getting involved in the digging. And asking people to help is helping people LEAVE their houses. What are you on about? Talk about unfocused grousing.

    A truly pathetic swipe at teachers here. Perhaps you should ask for volunteers to dig that chip off your shoulder?
    I spent the morning/afternoon digging out here. We’ve a primary school around the corner. I don’t teach in that school.

    Conundrum for Rodin: I spent a good chunk of the day clearing the road and footpath that leads past a school. As did everybody else who lives around. Those that couldn’t, for whatever reason, brought the rest of us cups of tea and sangers. I’m a teacher, but I don’t teach in that school. One or two of the others were as well. How do you propose to take a pop at me? What did I do wrong today that would allow for a spot of teacher bashing?

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Kermit, Sryanbruen, what is your take on a possible cold re-load in a weeks time?

    To be honest, with the state of the stratosphere, anything could happen. I do not put my money on a cold reload by any means, nor do I put my money on a warm spell. To me, a cold reload is more likely than a warm spell that's for sure due to the southerly track of the Polar Jet and the state of the zonal winds.

    I'd say to keep your eyes on the posts we do and we'll start talking if any certainty grows on what's exactly going to happen. The stratosphere is just too unique that there's nothing historically to base off of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Some amount of moaning Minnie's on our schools WhatsApp group. Car parks cleared,yard up to the doors cleared and yet some are wondering if it's safe to send kids to school "cos the basketball court and pitch still have snow on them."
    The amount of stupid comments on the group is mind boggling. "There's snow on the roadside". "Will the kids be outside at break?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Mod Note

    Some of the bickering, personal attacks and hostile posts on this thread are painful to read! most have been deleted.

    All posts relating to discussion of Weather Warnings have been moved to the dedicated thread HERE


    All posts relating to winter weather preparations/driving tips have been moved HERE

    Can we get back to discussing the weather please - civilly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    To be honest, with the state of the stratosphere, anything could happen. I do not put my money on a cold reload by any means, nor do I put my money on a warm spell. To me, a cold reload is more likely than a warm spell that's for sure due to the southerly track of the Polar Jet and the state of the zonal winds.

    I'd say to keep your eyes on the posts we do and we'll start talking if any certainty grows on what's exactly going to happen. The stratosphere is just too unique that there's nothing historically to base off of.

    Is another cold spell quite likely to just be a slushy mess if it occurred that far into march? Even in the spell just there in my part of Dublin there was a lot of daily thawing and they were exceptionally low temps for late feb/early march


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