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Severe Weather Snow / Ice Weds 28 FEB ( Onwards ) ** READ MOD NOTE POST#1**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Wait until the extreme heat warnings in the summer.............................................ehh then again maybe not.

    We live in hope....lessness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,272 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Wait until the extreme heat warnings in the summer.............................................ehh then again maybe not.

    Oh let me dream.......
    Anyway to echo what Paully said a big thanks to all the genuine posters throughout . It has been an amazing few weeks to follow something like this and then it actually comes to fruition!
    Thankfully the temps were not quite as severe here so pipes didn't freeze. That was my main concern .
    I don't know if I'll ever see this amount of snow again. The drive to the shops Saturday was HAIRY. Massive snowball drifts half blocking the main road at random spots .
    I have one final question before I leave .........did it snow outside Swanners window ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    My estate in Newbridge is still under a lot of snow cover , although a good thaw and spending most of the day clearing the roads ( Well some of the neighbours did ) I couldn't get my A4 automatic out yesterday ,

    Had no problem all through the event with my 4X4 , was in Naas yesterday and wow its still in a very bad way , was really surprised by the extent and cover of snow up there still .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    ps200306 wrote: »
    Like the snow, the posting rate on the boards snow threads has started to melt away. But between the technical thread and the current and archived discussion threads there are over 23,600 posts. Looks like some posters never got to bed when the snow got going last Wednesday night. Here's the hourly posting rate since the first thread started a fortnight ago:

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    I wonder how that compares with the posting rate during the Ophelia weather event.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭George Sunsnow


    My estate in Newbridge is still under a lot of snow cover , although a good thaw and spending most of the day clearing the roads ( Well some of the neighbours did ) I couldn't get my A4 automatic out yesterday ,

    Had no problem all through the event with my 4X4 , was in Naas yesterday and wow its still in a very bad way , was really surprised by the extent and cover of snow up there still .
    Arklow town is the same
    People walking on the road too which is very narrow because of what’s piled up
    Spare a thought for people on hills


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Still 15cm of snow on the level/away from drifts in my part of Dublin 16. I dug out my car yesterday and got out of our estate - just spent 45 minutes digging/getting my wife's car out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭pad199207


    AWful awful conditions here in N Kildare. Have never seen the likes of it. Got messages from peope in Dublin asking to see where the best snow drifts were to come and show the kids. My mind was boggled.

    Finally my estate was unblocked yesterday afternoon and manages to get out for drive. Incredible scenes. Many roads and areas are still completely cut off.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    I see Leo has stated today that people may be found dead in their homes as a result of the severe weather conditions.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/leo-varadkar-we-may-find-people-dead-in-their-homes-in-the-coming-days/ar-BBJSee1?li=BBr5KbJ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I see Leo has stated today that people may be found dead in their homes as a result of the severe weather conditions.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/leo-varadkar-we-may-find-people-dead-in-their-homes-in-the-coming-days/ar-BBJSee1?li=BBr5KbJ

    Why would people have died in their homes? I wouldn't have thought it was long enough for anyone to starve and even if their electricity ran out I wouldn't have thought the temperatures were low enough to kill anybody if they lit a fire and had loads of blankets


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Arklow town is the same
    People walking on the road too which is very narrow because of what’s piled up
    Spare a thought for people on hills

    I do. I live on hilly ground myself and while most of the snow that fell here has thawed, there are still huge problems in my area with burst and frozen pipes. I have had no running water supply since last Wednesday night and trying to get a plumber to come out is very difficult at present.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Why would people have died in their homes? I wouldn't have thought it was long enough for anyone to starve and even if their electricity ran out I wouldn't have thought the temperatures were low enough to kill anybody if they lit a fire and had loads of blankets

    Big assumption there that everybody is able and nimble. It does not have to be below freezing for somebody to die of hypothermia.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Natibaby


    Nearly everyone in our estate came out and dug the place out yesterday but once you leave the estate the paths by the main roads are very bad, icy, slushy and very unsafe overall. Lots of the secondary roads still haven't been cleared in south Dublin, the council really need to clear them today, especially around the schools


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Dublin Airport had another 34.1mm of precipitation yesterday bringing its March 2018 total up to 104.8mm for the first 4 days of the month (its entire March average is 52.6mm). Its wettest March in modern times (since 1964) was March 2008 with 102.4mm so it's already wetter than that!? In contrast, Casement Aerodrome has seen only 14.7mm of precipitation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Why would people have died in their homes? I wouldn't have thought it was long enough for anyone to starve and even if their electricity ran out I wouldn't have thought the temperatures were low enough to kill anybody if they lit a fire and had loads of blankets

    They forgot to get bread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    They forgot to get bread.
    Were there any weather warnings?
    I blame the government and Met E for not warning us that disruptive weather was on the way. I heard absolutely nothing on RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    I posted yesterday about some parents complaining about the school reopening and some snow left on the pitch etc.One was complaining the loudest about missing days etc. And lo and behold their kids are at home today while their neighbours brought their own kids to school without incident.
    So far nobody has died or been injured today at the school. ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Were there any weather warnings?
    I blame the government and Met E for not warning us that disruptive weather was on the way. I heard absolutely nothing on RTE.

    Stage 5 has well and truly kicked in then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Stage 5 has well and truly kicked in then.

    I think (hope) he was being sarcastic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Its worth noting that the temperature in most places hasn't been above 5c for over a week now. This would even be unusual in January or February I think.
    I noticed that Oak Park and Johnstown Castle got up to 6/7c briefly yesterday afternoon but both are 3c at the moment.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I think (hope) he was being sarcastic

    Yes he was. I misunderstood his post.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Its worth noting that the temperature in most places hasn't been above 5c for over a week now. This would even be unusual in January or February I think.

    I noticed that Oak Park and Johnstown Castle got up to 6/7c briefly yesterday afternoon but both are 3c at the moment.

    Yes, but without the wind chill of last week it feels almost balmy now by comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Here we go again!! :)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭gerrybhoy


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Here we go again!! :)
    :D another cold blast?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,164 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Its worth noting that the temperature in most places hasn't been above 5c for over a week now. This would even be unusual in January or February I think.
    I noticed that Oak Park and Johnstown Castle got up to 6/7c briefly yesterday afternoon but both are 3c at the moment.

    Is Oak Park a bunch of houses next an entrance to Phoenix Park?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Footpaths are in terrible condition. Full of slush and dirty snow.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Artane2002 wrote: »
    Footpaths are on terrible condition. Full of snow and dirty snow.

    That would be slush. Are the roads clear now? ME are forecasting sharp frost for tonight and those footpaths will much worse. There is still an orange warning in place for Leinster until at least tomorrow morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭patneve2


    99% of snow has thawed here, just a few patches here and there in sheltered areas. Wonder when I will see 20cm of snow here again ...


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Musefan wrote: »
    Management company cleared the road and behind cars so we could get out, but it was a tight squeeze and we cleared a bit more from around our car and ferried it away to the grass where it wouldn't get in the way. The neighbour pulled his car out there and just kicked all the snow on his side over behind our car so he could get out :mad:

    So more importantly did your husband agree that there was sufficient amount of snow in the past week to lose that 5 yoyo bet?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Funny, but I haven't felt cold at all during the last few days. Felt colder earlier this year. Maybe I'm acclimatised. I miss it already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Musefan


    samih wrote: »
    So more importantly did your husband agree that there was sufficient amount of snow in the past week to lose that 5 yoyo bet?

    Yup! I've been flashing the cash :P


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Musefan wrote: »
    Yup! I've been flashing the cash :P

    Excellent! In all fairness it would have difficult to change the terms and conditions to wiggle out from that one :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 Cornerstonelad


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Is Oak Park a bunch of houses next an entrance to Phoenix Park?

    Teagasc Research Station, Oak Park, Co. Carlow


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭molly dolly


    We live in Wicklow foothills. I work in Carlow. Different worlds. Local NS is still closed. Have to say community really rallied together. Old people checked, farmers clearing roads. Warnings seemed to have been listened too and we all got through pretty unscathed. This and Carlow weather were great sources of info. Wicklow alerts also very good. We dug our drive our yesterday. Great bonding for himself and myself. Did sit a big agog at many abled body people bitching about council not doing their bit. Up our way we didn't see a council nor did we wait for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    patneve2 wrote: »
    99% of snow has thawed here, just a few patches here and there in sheltered areas. Wonder when I will see 20cm of snow here again ...
    Is the local graveyard on a height with an east facing slope?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,952 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Weather Model are a little all over the place today, the weekend is very hard to call but the Wicklow Mountains could see more snow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah, definitely a "different worlds" thing going on here. Drove from D16 where there were still foot-high drifts blocking paths and lining the roads, out to Blackrock where there are just a few small patches of stuff here and there.

    Even hearing locals in the shop at lunch talking about how it was "all a bit overblown" and "there was no need to shut the whole country down". Meanwhile yesterday morning it took my wife 90 minutes to walk the 3km roundtrip to a pharmacy.

    Kind of mad how people's experiences differed so widely despite only being a few KM apart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    I would like to nominate this memorable snowfall/ cold event with its own unique name.

    I propose - The Big Freeze of 2018 :D

    How that sound?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    gerrybhoy wrote: »
    :D another cold blast?

    Most likely scenario yes, impacts of the Canadian Warming are certainly being signalled at here now by the ensembles in the zonal wind speeds going down to reverse levels again.

    The fly in the ointment is how a Canadian Warming has never been done before in February since records began in 1950-51 so you have nothing historically to base off of - which I stated last night and it's giving me an incredible headache trying to get around it and find other teleconnections that could give me some teasers. I'm not having much luck because the NAO is gradually going back to neutral and rather positive levels, same with the AO.

    The stratosphere has taken some jumps down after the third warming spike of last Tuesday bringing temperatures up there, especially at 30hPa, closer to average but not below.

    We're coming quite close to a period where stratospheric events don't really have much impact on the troposphere historically because as we go into May, the zonal winds take a death and reverse regardless of the stratosphere, this is why you rarely ever see windstorms at this time of year and even then, laughable compared to Autumn or Winter windstorms.

    I hope to god we don't get another cold spell or a snow event - or even any snow. Unfortunately for me, that's an unlikely hope and the more likely occurrence is for it to be cold and some snow. I will keep you up to date as usual with these kinds of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    gozunda wrote: »
    I would like to nominate this memorable snowfall/ cold event with its own unique name.

    I propose - The Big Freeze of 2018 :D

    How that sound?

    Very original gozunda. :rolleyes:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    seamus wrote: »
    Yeah, definitely a "different worlds" thing going on here. Drove from D16 where there were still foot-high drifts blocking paths and lining the roads, out to Blackrock where there are just a few small patches of stuff here and there.

    Even hearing locals in the shop at lunch talking about how it was "all a bit overblown" and "there was no need to shut the whole country down". Meanwhile yesterday morning it took my wife 90 minutes to walk the 3km roundtrip to a pharmacy.

    Kind of mad how people's experiences differed so widely despite only being a few KM apart.

    Yes places close to mountains got noticeably more
    During the friday storm I walked from mill town to dundrum shopping centre and there was a noticeable bit more Id say,slightly deeper snow overall and higher drifts and the snow and wind were more intense, thats only 1km south and a few dozen metres higher

    And my friend from dundrum said he went to marlay park and thats not too far from his home and he said there was noticeably more snow there than in dundrum village area


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭Calibos


    seamus wrote: »
    Yeah, definitely a "different worlds" thing going on here. Drove from D16 where there were still foot-high drifts blocking paths and lining the roads, out to Blackrock where there are just a few small patches of stuff here and there.

    Even hearing locals in the shop at lunch talking about how it was "all a bit overblown" and "there was no need to shut the whole country down". Meanwhile yesterday morning it took my wife 90 minutes to walk the 3km roundtrip to a pharmacy.

    Kind of mad how people's experiences differed so widely despite only being a few KM apart.

    Thats where my skepticism of snow depth reports from other parts of Bray and their skepticism of mine came from. I live near Brays Seafront on Meath Road and was talking to my Aunt yesterday who lives only 1.4km away from me beside Bray Tennis Club near the top of Putland Road which runs up a hill from the Seafront. Her house is at an elevation of 155m and 1km from the Sea. She had a foot of snow in her garden on the flat while I maxed out at about 2.5 inches near the Seafront. There was no such drastic contrast in snow depths in either event of 2010. I recently had my Homer Simpson 'DOH!' moment and realised why this was the case. All the 2010 snow was Lake effect Snow Streamers with light winds. Emma brought gale force winds, High Seas and Horizontal blowing snow. The winds blew a constant salty sea spray along with the 30 hours straight of heavy snow onto the seafront area and a few roads back from it. Natures De-Icer. So the snow was melting as fast as it was falling where I am and thus we never built up any further accumulation over and above the initial 2.5" we got from a Streamer on the Tuesday Night. Hence a dramatic difference with only 1.4km separating me from my aunt and with her only 1km from the Sea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    gozunda wrote: »
    I would like to nominate this memorable snowfall/ cold event with its own unique name.

    I propose - The Big Freeze of 2018 :D

    How that sound?

    Notably, it hardly froze at all.

    Temperatures were usually close to zero, hence the difference between Blackrock and D16 mentioned, one degree warmer in Blackrock made a difference.

    In 2010 base temps were much lower and so a degree warmer at the coast was still well below freezing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Notably, it hardly froze at all.

    Temperatures were usually close to zero, hence the difference between Blackrock and D16 mentioned, one degree warmer in Blackrock made a difference.

    In 2010 base temps were much lower and so a degree warmer at the coast was still well below freezing.

    Interestingly when much of the rest of the country was getting snow for the first 2 days - it froze fairly hard here. Getting down to -8c. The ground was frozen solid as concrete around here. The main snow only arrivedd the night that Storm Emma was predicted to make landfall.

    From Monday 26th thru to Thursday was this first time sincec 2010 that it was noticeable with the cold actually radiating from the ground up during the day. Daytime temps were just about clearing freezing with little if any thaw until Sunday. That said I am @ 130 m asl and close to the Galtees.

    Anyways I suggested of the top of me head

    "The Big Freeze of 2018" ;)

    If you have another suggestion - call it out :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    gozunda wrote: »
    Interestingly when much of the rest of the country was getting snow for the first 2 days - it froze fairly hard here. Getting down to -8c. The snow only arrivedd the night that Storm Emma was predicted to make landfall.

    From Monday 26th thru to Thursday was this first time sincec 2010 that it was noticeable with the cold actually radiating from the ground up during the day. Daytime temps were just about clearing freezing with little if any thaw until Sunday. That said I am @ 130 m asl and close to the Galtees.

    Anyways I suggested of the top of me head

    "The Big Freeze of 2018" ;)

    If you have another suggestion - call it out :D

    Id say the big snow would be more accurate!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭patneve2


    Is the local graveyard on a height with an east facing slope?

    At 40/50m asl, about 280 metres from the sea as the crow flies, ENE facing slope. About 10cm at sea level, 15-20 cm here and 20-25cm on dalkey hill. Nearly all melted now obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,691 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    sryanbruen wrote: »

    Sryan - Do you have a good suggestion? We have to call it something cap'n!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Syran, if another cold episode were to happen when do u think it would occur


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,758 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The council came today with diggers and a snow plough and cleared my road.
    There was no way of digging through this much snow:


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    the level snow is mostly gone here now. Fields here are mostly green except for snow banks in the ditches or the odd drift. All roads clear except for some dirty slushy piles on the verges. Most of the garden is green again except for compacted snow and remains of drifts. It's going to take a long time for the ground to dry up after this.


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