Yellowstone - Paramount *Spoilers*

OU812

Harrison Ford & Hellen Mirren to star in 1932, the second spin off.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2022/05/17/yellowstone-prequel-1932-harrison-ford-helen-mirren-starring-announcement/9810852002/

Spon Farmer

I haven’t started Yellowstone or 1883 yet so no spoilers please.

1883 started airing in the US as Yellowstone Season 4 was showing the final episodes. I know that a few episodes of that season of Yellowstone featured 1883 characters in flashbacks.

Is there any reason to wait for season 4 to be added before watching 1883 ?

Agent Coulson

Season 5 teaser

Starts back Novemeber 13th with a double episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihC02ikZmaw&ab_channel=Yellowstone

OU812

Yellowstone 1923 cast revealed. Harrison Ford & Helen Mirren were already confirmed. Ford will play the brother of Tim McGraw's character, which is interesting because I thought they'd focus on the direct line.

https://tvline.com/lists/1923-yellowstone-cast-list-spinoff-james-badge-dale/

Nigzcurran

In my humble opinion 1883 is some of the best tv you will ever see

Nigzcurran

Just finished the last episode of 1883, you can really understand why Yellowstone means so much to the Dutton family now

Agent Coulson

Full trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkQmKIKt1zk&ab_channel=Yellowstone

Cartman78

Anyone know if RTE (or another regular station on the Sky platform) might show 1883 at some stage?

Slydice

Trailer felt a bit .. movie level?

Story felt Yellowstone.

Agent Coulson

Slow start to the opening two episodes of season 5 although it did lay some of the ground work for the war that is coming between the Duttons and the corporation and Native Americans.

There was no real reason for them to have Monica lose the baby.

There seems to be a couple of good additions to the cast.

We also now have Beth Yellowstone vs. Beth Corporation vs. Beth Native American to look forward too.

yabadabado

The less seen of Beth the better.Worst character in the show.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119872404#Comment_119872404

Totally agree. This show writes alot of bad female characters to be honest. Like the new female character joining the "villains" just seems like a carbon copy of beth, with the same sort of dialogue.

Kayce and his family are the only good people on the show. Surprised John didnt visit them in second episode- God he really only cares about the land!

yabadabado

Watched the first 3 episodes of season 5 .

They have outdone themselves with Beth so far.

She is just a caricature now,it's beyond a joke .Nearly ever scene she is in is muck and episode 3 ending is so **** bad.In real life she wouldn't have one person in her corner after all the stunts she has pulled.

Clareman

I was thinking the same thing with Beth, she's had enough screen time and the whole "tough outer shell with a soft core" is tiresome at this stage.

Pentecost

I've just gotten through the entire four and a half seasons to date in the past few weeks. An acelerated process because I've been sick recently. But God I can't stand Beth. I was hoping Jamie would run her over. She's not even that good looking that it might make her presence on screen more tolerable. Hopefully a wolf gets her or something.

DownByTheGarden

I really enjoyed seasons 1 to 3. Then season 4 episode one i thought was brilliant and was settling in for a great season 4. To my surprise straight after the 1st episode of season 4 it turned to utter scutter and got progressively worse from there on. Never seen such a turn around for any show. Is it worth my while starting into season 5?

Pentecost

Well I'll keep watching because I always finish shows but it's not good so far.

yabadabado

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119967706#Comment_119967706

I really really want someone to **** Beth over.

Be great if episode 3 ending was the beginning of her demise.

Ideally I'd like Jamie to be the phone who crucifies her .

Hes not a bad character at all imo but they have him portrayed as a lapdog when in reality he wouldn't be anything like that.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119968438#Comment_119968438

Jamie could be a good character but the writers of this show only seem to want to make him suffer.

Beth is just one of the many badly written women in the show along with the grumpy environmentalist, trashy lawyer and depressed native american.

OmegaGene

so four episodes in and nothing has really happened apart from beth having a fight with a vegan on the grass

Pentecost

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119968698#Comment_119968698

They try to make some of these women look "bad ass" but whether it's the acting or the writing they come across as preposterous. Like the current older CEO type (I forget her name), or that Angela Blue Thunder woman. Their efforts at looking and sounding tough are almost comedic.

yabadabado

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119974170#Comment_119974170

They basically write them like pantomime villans.

The old CEO throwing the glass and bottle in a fit of rage was absolutely hilarious.Comedy gold.

OmegaGene

Well episode 6 was like watching paint dry not a single thing happened

Pentecost

Some lovely scenery but not much else to recommend it. A very skippable episode.

SimpleDimple

I still like the show but it’s getting fairly predictable.. introduce a villain and then they have to be wiped out. I still really like Beth though, contrary to most people in this thread it seems.

The new female baddie is not great so far… this mastermind who’s has been let off the leash, who has so far managed to …. sleep with Jamie

Also Im liking that in this season that when they do the whole “this is the life” montages it’s of scenery and not rodeo stuff like in previous seasons.

OmegaGene

Don’t forget the other female baddie from the other side, she floating about doing a sentence here and there

SimpleDimple

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119995169#Comment_119995169

Oh yeah! She didn’t get up to much last season in fairness to her

Clareman

So, if I get this right..........

There's a big cattle drive because of dwindling cowboy numbers

Everyone is allowed on it, including an assistant who turns out to be a great rider who is challenged to keep up with an elderly man

A box of cigarettes can stay in the pocket of a pair of jeans almost perfectly after a days riding

A super romantic spot is found close to a big camping ground with a lovely stream

A "fixer" will drop in, hook up with the son of the governor and all of a sudden be able to spot a path to get rid of the governor and get the son in place

The media can get perfect shots at the perfect time

The president of America can just drop everything and find a slot in his calendar to do something ~2,000 miles away in a place where they want to build an airport (but all of a sudden can accommodate Air Force One)

This is very close to jumping the shark, if it hasn't jumped yet.

OmegaGene

^^ spot on summary and personally I think this has gone from Yellowstone to a yellow stain on grandad that nobody talks about

SimpleDimple

You forgot that a rancher can get elected Governor of Montana on a “progress stops with me” slogan… not many months after an assassination attempt on his whole family

Sudden Valley

To be honest a politician being a traditionalist and getting a jump in popularity because of a survived assassination attempt is not that unheard of in American politics but this season so far has been not too great, following a disappointing last season. It always surprises me that Yellowstone is higher rated on imdb than Deadwood, a very similar type but far superior cowboy show. Kevin Costner is just so good in the show, that viewers must be able to forgive all the problems with the show.

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120000526#Comment_120000526

imdb is not an accurate way to assess popularity from what i have seen

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120000580#Comment_120000580

it is probably an accurate assessment of popularity with film and tv nerds but just not an good assessment of quality. Not that I think Yellowstone is trash but it has been written badly the last two seasons

Clareman

For me Yellowstone is just lazy writing at this, they've 3 story arcs, the ranch, Beth and 1 of the brothers, and they seem to be just going episode to episode without much of an overarching story. I'd also guess that they actors are getting more and more difficult to schedule because it's clear at a lot of times that there's either a stand in or only 1 person on screen at any time, either that or 1 person is sitting down without much moving so it's easier to CGI the other person in. I'm hoping that because the episode order has risen from 10 to 14 episodes that there's just a couple of filler episodes been thrown in to pad the season, for example nothing in the last episode moved the story on and with a bit of a change to the Jamie/yerone scenes it could have been in any part of the series.

Pentecost

Still not a huge amount happening after eight episodes. Just the impeachment thing really. I expect the Beth/Jamie war will kick off seriously now though. Fourteen episodes is probably a hindrance this year.

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120067268#Comment_120067268

Don’t worry you have at least 6 months to wait for the final 6 episodes

I thought episode 8 was the only half decent one so far

Pentecost

I didn't realise that. Not sure I can stand the suspense as to whether the cows have avoided infection or not.

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120067386#Comment_120067386

That’s a bit strong, The female cast may be a pain but I wouldn’t be calling them cows, Jamie’s new friend maybe and hopefully she’s fully infected

JP Liz V1

Talk online of Costner wanting out or reduce appearances or could be ending also Matthew McConaughey in talks to join the franchise universe

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120212109#Comment_120212109

If he wants out they may as well kill off the series in my opinion

Pentecost

Based on this season to date I think it'd be no harm if they called a halt now.

billyhead

Better off killing the Beth character. She's so annoying.

Cartman78

Stopped watching this after two or three episodes of the latest series (on RTE 2 pace).

It still looks great but it's turned into pure hokum imho. I might go back to it at some point but too many other good options available.

Beth flouncing around like a wannabe Bond villain is painful to watch at this stage...her "clever" takedown of the fella that offered to buy her a drink in the bar was pure cringe.

Costner is phoning it in...not only does his character look embarrassed to be governor, he looks embarrassed to be playing the role.

Anyway it was fun while it lasted I guess

cdgalwegian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120213510#Comment_120213510

Thought this was great for a long while, but lost interest mid-way through season 4. I thought it might pick up enough for a return to it, depending on the reviews. Haven't bothered going back to it; think I'll keep it that way. The spin-offs look worthwhile though.

yabadabado

Kill off the show ,it's gone way beyond it's sell by date.

Fionne

Beth & Rip are the only reason to watch this show. Yes, it's soap-opera villain taken to the next level of cheesy but hell, sometimes that's just entertainment. I'm old enough to remember Alexis Carrington on Dynasty, this is like the cowboy version.

lawrencesummers

Does anyone on this thread actually like the show?

Its a bit like the latelate thread, loads of people who cant stand the show who are watching it saying how much they cant stand it.

Pentecost

I'll usually keep watching things I'm not enjoying any more because I want to see how it ends. Complaining about it is a coping mechanism.

And also I'm a masochist.

cdgalwegian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224448#Comment_120224448

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224473#Comment_120224473

Also, this is a chat forum, and some people like to bond with hate-watching, such as with TLLS. With Yellowstone, it just became stale; for some, it needs to be seen out. If a series is near closure, I might stick it out. Otherwise, I just bail. Can't do the hate-watch thing.

OmegaGene

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224448#Comment_120224448

It’s a discussion thread about the series not a fan club, the series was good and it’s gone to shi7 lately until the last episode before the break.

I am hoping it gets that spark back but it’s not looking likely, I want to see how it ends and it’s easy watching so I will keep going with it, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone though