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Lahvlahn: The "Snow Show Like a Joe Show" Edition - 01/03 two-eighteen so to speak
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thecretinhop wrote: »shouting at his oy pad in his modest villa in france
It's far from modest!somesoldiers wrote: »but sure that is nothing to do with BBc or Guardian is it, where's Butters when you need him?
I'm here caller - I haven't gone away you know.
I've cut back on my listening as it does be doin' me head in and dat, but I do try and update de Wurkday Caluclator daily and have a read-een of de auld thread, just tryin' ta get a bit of an auld buzz goin' as de great man wood say himself. 0 -
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So Irish people overstay their visas and are giving out that they were pulled up it years later.
Well shock horror lads and I've no sympathy for the initial caller as he overstayed and got pulled on it.
It's like the callers who were giving out a few weeks ago about the system not being sympathetic to them. Some Irish do seem to believe that the processes should be tailored to their needs individually. Now is some of the way it's carried out a bit heavy handed ? Yes but it's their pitch so to speak, so it's their rules I'm afraid.
I didn't hear the show....so I'm in the perfect position to comment on the subject matter (as is the MO of your average Lahv Lahn caller):pac:. I only glanced at the thread today whereas normally I'd read it all but let me guess - Philip was sympathetic to the guy who broke the rules? Go and fook off. The Yanks don't take that stuff lightly. I'm surprised he got back in at all over the years which I gathered from the thread (apologies if I've misinterpreted).
Did he call the nasty immigration officers "rotters"? How many "Good Lord"s did we have today?
And I also see we had some sort of RTE/Lahv Lahn/Dragon's Den menage a trois circle jerk of mutual masturbation? Licence fee put to great use there.
BTW, Gavin is as fond of saying "and dat" in real life as Joe is on the wireless trannie - I've had the dubious pleasure of hearing him speak more than once. He says it in a posher voyis dan Joe now, but he overuses it as much as Fateen. And he's supposed to be a Media Trainer! :rolleyes:0 -
De Indo quick out the gates again with coverage of De Lahv Lahn stories and dat.....me own comments in red so to speak:
'They made me feel like a criminal' - Irish dad imprisoned in US during family holiday over 1996 visa violation
Kathy Armstrong
March 27 2018 9:50 PM
An Irish family's dream holiday to Disneyland Florida turned into a nightmare recently when the dad was imprisoned for overstaying his visa in 1996....which he would have known is a serious offence as all J1-ers are warned about this in advance of travelling and the repercussions for breaking this well-known rule. I'm sure PBH asked him about his knowledge of this of course? :rolleyes:
The man, who has only been identified as Darren, said that he was made to "feel like a criminal" (most people would regard breaking the law as being a criminal...no?) during his ordeal, despite having been to the US four times since 1996 without any issues arising. I have to admiot to being astonised as to how he managed to get in 4 times since but that's another story and frankly not relevant to this visit.
Darren and his wife Linda had been planning the trip to Florida since last June and when they told their kids (aged 15, 11 and 9) on Christmas Eve, he said "everyone was buzzing (just to get a bit of an auld buzz going around de place?) and it was all we could talking about from then."
They flew to Gatwick Airport on March 22 and from there to Orlando Airport, it was when they were going through the usual immigration checks there that things started to go wrong.
Speaking on Liveline on RTE Radio One today, Darren said: "We went through a place called Primary Inspection and we spoke to a border agent and everything seemed fine, we gave another set of fingerprints and then suddenly his attitude and line of questioning changed and all the attention was focused on me.
"He asked when was the first time I was in the United States and I kind of hesitated and fumbled my line because of a long flight (sure, sure - you knew full well I'd say) and said 2002, my wife Linda nudged me and said it was 1996.
"He asked how long I stayed for and I said three months, he took my passport and separated it from the rest, he said they would need to look into it and asked me to follow him."
Darren was then led away from his family to be questioned by Customs and Border Police for two hours.
The officers told him he overstayed his three month visa by a month in 1996, although Darren maintains it was just two weeks. Overstaying by a day is overstaying....and again I'm sure this was pointed out, right? :rolleyes:
He was then told he would not be allowed to enter the United States.
Darren explained: "I've been there four times since and I gave her the years as best as I could remember, I asked how I got in all of those times and they said I had just been lucky." Yes, you have been very lucky. But your luck ran out and now you're bitching about it. Zero sympathy I'm afraid.
He was allowed to go out to let his wife know what was happening and to give her his wallet and cards and he said things were understandably emotional.
"The kids saw their mam crying and they started crying, my wife tried to reason with the agent and she was threatened that she would be arrested. Anyone who's ever been to a US Airport will know that US Airport Security don't tolerate any emotional displays. It won't work.
"I managed to calm Linda down, I went along each of the kids and tried to reassure them it would be okay and to go enjoy their holiday, it wasn't how we planned it but it is how it is, the kids were bawling.
"Linda said she wouldn't stay without me and the border agent said that was entirely her choice but she would have to foot the bill herself for her and the children to fly home," Darren said.
The couple decided the best option was for Linda and the children to continue with their trip, Darren was then led away for more screening and at 1am he was handcuffed and moved via a prison van to a correctional facility 17 miles away from Orlando Airport.
He said that he felt "threatened" during his time in his cell, which he shared with other inmates. Were they rotters?
Darren recalled: "They made me feel like a criminal...technically you are.
"There were upwards of 20 people in my cell that night, I stood out like a sore thumb, they were hardened criminals.
"Listening to some of the criminals it wasn't just stealing a pint of milk from a shop but things like being caught with a load of weapons, assault and battery and domestic assaults, they were openly discussing it almost like a badge of honour.
"I just wanted to curl up and be left alone.
"One man in his 50s kind of befriended me, for want of a better word, he could tell i was distressed and that I wasn't the type of person you would usually in that environment.
"So he was asking me was I okay, that was a small bit of comfort I suppose, he didn't look like someone you would want to meet on the street usually but he was the best of a bad lot.
"The room we were in was massive, with about ten bunk beds and the air conditioning was on a constant cold setting, Were you expecting a US prison to be a 5 Star Hotel? I felt threatened."
He was collected at around 2.15pm the following day, handcuffed and brought back to Orlando Airport in the prison van.
After around 24 hours, Darren says he was relieved to be on his way back to Ireland.
"I was escorted to the plane by two armed guards in full view of the passengers I was going to be on the plane with, I was in handcuffs until we reached the departures area.
"I was getting some funny stares when I was sitting at the departures gate, I didn't know how it would be on the plane but it was okay, to be honest I was just relieved to be leaving the country," the father-of-three said.
He was back in London by 9.30am on Saturday and then he landed in Dublin around midday.
His family are still in Florida and he said they are trying to make the most of their holiday.
Darren said: "Linda is making the best of it but it is hard for her.
"I was reassured by the border agent that I will be allowed enter the US again but I will have to go in via a different means, by submitting an application to the American Embassy in Ballsbridge and applying for a ten year travel visa. IF ONLY YOU HAD DONE THAT IN ADVANCE?
"That in itself would involve a lot of hoop jumping.
"I can't really say at the moment if I'd want to go back, my head's all over the place, I want to just get my family home and have a think about it.
"I'll have to talk to my wife when she's home, for all I know she could be against ever going back there but then again they could be having a whale of a time, I hope they are enjoying it because they deserve it."
He said that he also wants to highlight how serious the implications of overstaying a visa in the US can be. Yes, because we're just discovering this now....:rolleyes:
Darren warned: "I just want to use my story to help make people aware of what they could potentially be dealing with if they do decide to go the US and were involved in a minor thing BUT IT'S NOT A MINOR THING DARREN UNDER US LAW - and if you want to enter their country this may be a shock to you but you have to abide by their rules. It's like touting tickets may not be a crime in Ireland but it is in Brazil. Bizarrely and to the utter amazement of the occasional host of De Lahv Lahn and most of it's callers not every country in the wurldid behaves like the Irish and their laissez faire wink wink nudge nudge attitude to trivial matters like thew law of the land. Thankfully. such as staying longer than your alloted time."0 -
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