Battlefield V

gimli2112

Reddit of course has exploded with the changes. Haven't played it but not a fan of increasing the ttk. No-one wants it, why even do it? Can't see it helping smgs

iLikeWaffles

Are the changes on a separate server, they said they may test on a separate server.

ahnowbrowncow

CobraClan wrote: »

So they have patched TTK and TTD, anyone noticed any difference so far? Won't get a chance to play until tomorrow!

I've played it this evening. They've increased the TTK by quite a bit, which not too many people wanted. And they haven't even addressed the TTD issue, still happens were you seem to die from one SMG, LMG, assalt rifle bullet even though you've been hit with 5 or 6.

I'm not liking the changes at all, people feel a lot spongier and you can't punish reckless players running out in the open as often.

gimli2112

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

Are the changes on a separate server, they said they may test on a separate server.

I saw a youtuber say they have applied it to all servers except for one game mode which they are calling something conquest. So I think there is a conquest game mode with the original ttk.

Really felt this growing on me and reading the subreddit is making me not want to play until they turn it back.

gimli2112

fk it I need to stop reading reddit or I'll be back to BF4 this weekend

iLikeWaffles

See it there... As long as everyone plays Conquest Core I'm sure they will turn the TTK back down. Maybe even lower it a bit more than it was previously.

CobraClan

I was actually happy with the TTK as it was, if anything they should of sorted out TTD. They haven't changed headshots apparently!

Grumpypants

They have increased the time to kill by around 1 bullet, so what used to take 4 shots now takes 5. The old mode is on servers called conquest core servers, the new mode is on conquest servers. They are testing both and want feedback on which is better.

There was too much churn, they worried people would get sick of the quick turn over, you spawn, run, die in a few seconds and repeat. They want to lessen that to have more longer fire fights.

But it's not what is wrong. There is no time to react. That's the issue. I felt you always had a chance in older games to take 1 shot but duck or jump into a tank or something to get away. In V it feels like you get shot once but before you hit the prone button you get 3 more shots and are dead.

Maybe if you got the on screen effect of a close by shot but lost no health it might help.

But the main thing is the squad spawing right in the action. In BF3/4 you had a reason to spawn back at base, to pick up a tank or plane or chopper. There was time spent getting ready and heading into a fire fight. And the war slowly coming to you.

Now that's gone, there is nothing at the base bar a garbage car. it's just spawn into mayhem and try kill 1-2 before you get killed reloading. Dying means nothing, it makes no difference if you just respawn.

I played the new map and it's so open you really get that old feel. We were trying to take a point and were two fields over scoping it out to see if anyone was hiding. Then creeping across the fields. It felt more like day z than bfv, in the best possible way.

iLikeWaffles

Half a game there, Fck me what are they at? Sponges, sponges everywhere. Dying too easy also though. Feels like I'm playing a COD title.

stuff.hunter

guys,
if i'll go for Premier Origin access which includes the game itself (?), would I be able to play online even my subscription ends or not?
Or just better to buy game on its own...
Platform: PC

Cheers

Spear

stuff.hunter wrote: »

guys,
if i'll go for Premier Origin access which includes the game itself (?), would I be able to play online even my subscription ends or not?
Or just better to buy game on its own...
Platform: PC

Cheers

If the Origin Access sub ends, access to the game ends. The value of it depends on how much you might otherwise spend on the same games in comparison to the ongoing cost of the sub.

Grumpypants

stuff.hunter wrote: »

guys,
if i'll go for Premier Origin access which includes the game itself (?), would I be able to play online even my subscription ends or not?
Or just better to buy game on its own...
Platform: PC

Cheers

You can't play it on or offline if your sub ends.

If you just want to test it get origin Access for around 4 euro and play the 10 hour trial. If you like it then you can decide on buying outright or upgrading to premier.

Shlippery

stuff.hunter wrote: »

guys,
if i'll go for Premier Origin access which includes the game itself (?), would I be able to play online even my subscription ends or not?
Or just better to buy game on its own...
Platform: PC

Cheers

Back catalog of games is fairly good, so you can try a ton of games (usally with all the 'bonus content', it's essentially another 'Netflix Subscription', when it's gone it's gone.

I used it to try BFV before buying it outright, one positive is, if you get it with premier, you unlock the 'deluxe' version and all the perks associated with it. If you cancel your sub & then buy the standard version I think you get to keep all the 'deluxe' perks.


It's good for games you wouldn't neccesairly buy full price..as far as EA offerings go, it's pretty good :pac:

Royale with Cheese

Haven't played the game since the TTK update, and not saying they were right to make those changes, but the one thing I would tend to agree with Dice on is that there is a silent majority of players who aren't particularly skilled at the game and don't frequent reddit/youtube etc. to piss and moan about various things. This is an EA game, of course they're going to want it to appeal to as many players as possible, which goes directly against the direction Dice took with attrition and removing spotting etc. This game is a bit of a mess now really, doesn't really know what it is or wants to be. It's a WW2 shooter, but doesn't really feel like it. It was aimed at highly skilled players but now they appear to be rowing back on that.

gimli2112

what I don't understand is that raising the ttk hurts the poorer players imo, having to put more bullets into someone makes it more difficult, increasing it is not going to save the likes of me. I get shot, I panic and run into walls

Royale with Cheese

I would disagree on that point. Dying frequently and quickly as a noob is far more frustrating than lack of kills. Again, I'm not saying they've done the right thing here, but I feel most of the prominent critics in the community don't really understand what it's like to be bad at these games.

I think they'd be best off just ranking the servers, would be a far better solution to keeping the game enjoyable for everyone.

fergus1001

Royale with Cheese wrote:

I think they'd be best off just ranking the servers, would be a far better solution to keeping the game enjoyable for everyone.

you would have to remove the server browser to do that which would not be a good move

Grumpypants

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

I would disagree on that point. Dying frequently and quickly as a noob is far more frustrating than lack of kills. Again, I'm not saying they've done the right thing here, but I feel most of the prominent critics in the community don't really understand what it's like to be bad at these games.

I think they'd be best off just ranking the servers, would be a far better solution to keeping the game enjoyable for everyone.

The problem is the time to die is still really quick. This didn't make that longer. I'd be all for that as you could have some great fights. Take a few bullets, get in cover and return fire.

It sounds mad because both should be the same time. But it now takes 5,6,7 shots to kill someone. I put a full clip as a medic into a guy and he ran off. I got killed because i was reloading.

But if someone shoots you you barely have time to react. You get hit with one bullet and before you can hit the prone button you get hit with two more and you are dead.

Something is off

stuff.hunter

looks like will go back to bf4 instead as bfv seem to be broken

Lord Nikon

The problem is when you spawn on a team member, you are shot by someone who was shooting at the that team member. You are dead within seconds, and you don't even know from where you are being shot at.

The Specialist

Why is the tides of war stuff so glitchy? I have 5/6 out of revives and it won’t register anymore so I can’t proceed, same thing happened with the ammo pouch ones from past week. Sort it ****ing out :mad:

iLikeWaffles

The reinforcement ones are bugged out on me.

gimli2112

that reinforcements one drove me crazy last week, all these bugs. at least they adjusted the ttk :rolleyes:

Grumpypants

TTD seems spot on last night wonder did they sort it, actually does what they wanted now with longer fire fights.

The Specialist

Grumpypants wrote: »

TTD seems spot on last night wonder did they sort it, actually does what they wanted now with longer fire fights.

I was actually thinking the same, had some ridiculous High kill scoring games - thought my fingers had been possessed by Rambo

gimli2112

so after all my outrage over the ttk I logged on played tdm for the first time (daily challenge), support (daily challenge) and an unranked LMG. 18-6. 2nd on leader board.

iLikeWaffles

Dan Mitre issued a community statement yesterday if anyone didn't see:

Hi Battlefield Community,

On behalf of the Battlefield team, I’d like to apologize for the silence over the past couple of days on the TTK topic. We’ve seen it’s been a big talking point and causing a divide in the community, which was never our intention. We have been listening closely to what you’ve all been saying.

Changes to the game carrying this kind of weight needs clearer, earlier communication before getting rolled out. We will improve how we roll out updates in the future and respond more quickly when you have questions or concerns.

So, why change TTK now? The intent came from us observing that new players are having a very hard time with the game compared to our core players, and we wanted to see if we could improve this over the holidays so more players can have a great time.

As many of our veteran players know, Battlefield games constantly evolve and change over time in our collaboration with the community. Battlefield V is no exception. We heard your feedback that many of you prefer the old TTK values, with one playlist featuring only Conquest using the “Core” settings clearly not being enough. To fix that, we will be adding a “Core” version of all playlists in the game next week, giving you a clearer choice between new and old settings. We’ll update you early next week on when the new playlist will be added.

We want to hear from you about the changes we’re making. We’d also like to thank all of you for the constructive discussions and feedback we’re seeing. Thank you.

~ The Battlefield Team

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/a6742d/battlefield_v_letter_to_the_community_new_core/


Sure why not just increase TTK for those new players if that's the case? Putting everyone at a disadvantage doesn't make it easier for new players to get kills it makes it much harder. Everyone is still on level playing field either way. New players will still have to get used to the game and if they're shit, they're shit.

Calhoun

Hahah, it's like every change is a middle finger to the veteran players.

Rewarded appropriately for the loyalty.

Probably another nail in the coffin as it splits the player base even further.

whiskeyman

Does squad chat work on xbox?

I see speaker icons beside names but dont hear anything?

iLikeWaffles

Past BF's had beginner servers, why can't they just do that instead. If a player has a rank greater than 10 they can't access that server. Simples!

Once everyone who is very bad at the game reaches rank 10, then there is enough data there to matchmake those players that would be at a disadvantage to a Vet.