Shoveling the driveway

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Here we go wrote: »

I remember in 2010 I think it was the last big freeze seeing in pappers not to clear the path as if someone fell you'd be
Liable the issue being if they fall and it's unclear ice it's act of nature or corpos issue but if you clear it's your fault it's not 100% ice free

It was then made quite clear that you would not be liable at all.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Ajsoprano wrote: »

It’s covered with snow again. Load of ****e.

That's how you clear snow - do it after each downpour. Much easier in the long run and it does compact.

OldMrBrennan83

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Patww79 wrote: »

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Of course it will but I'd like to be able to move about safely before Monday. I have a clear path to the garage for the regular trips to bring fuel in - clear and dry because I cleared it regularly for the past three days.

SBPhoto

Ajsoprano wrote: »

I’m going a bit stir crazy with the weather and looking out the window a lot.

There’s a big bunch of neighbours everyday shoveling the driveways.
Then it snows on it then they do it again. Now they have banded together and are shoveling the road.

They have a big giant pile of snow sitting up against a wall.

Is there some legal reason for this or have they just all got bored?

Get out and clear your own driveway, then you will keep up with the neighbours and will stop you from going a bit crazy

OldMrBrennan83

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Patww79 wrote: »

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Sure it's a bit of craic with the neighbours.

OldMrBrennan83

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0lddog

Patww79 wrote: »

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for some peace and quiet away from the kids

10pennymixup

I've been doing regularly. Also been clearing the snow of the car despite having no intention what so ever to drive in this.

Simple reason why. If I have to get a sick child to a doctor or some other emergency or unforeseen reason, it will be a bit late to start doing it then.

Be prepared, dib, dib, dib;)

razorblunt

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Where did you put all the snow?

I filled the garden waste bin and the recycling bin.

donaghs

Everyone should shovel the footpath outside their house. It means today people can push buggies to crèches, people can walk to the bus stop in work clothes, old people can attempt to walk to shops etc.

PowerToWait

You can tell a lot about a person by their attitude to clearing snow. Some proper mé féiners and just plain lazy people on here.

dxhound2005

PowerToWait wrote: »

You can tell a lot about a person by their attitude to clearing snow. Some proper mé féiners and just plain lazy people on here.

They're less selfish than the people who went out to clear out the shops. Nobody bothered clearing the snow where I am because there was no need. There was no need for most of the panic buying either.

jester77

jester77 wrote: »

If you don't clear the way in front of your house here and someone slips then you are liable

Not true in Ireland, unfortunately. Would be great of it were - all the layabouts, mé féiners and dregs would be prosecuted.

no.8

topper75 wrote: »

Compacted snow turns to ice though.

May seem futile when more flakes arrive on what you have cleared, but get rid of it at intervals and you'll be laughing once the thaw starts.

I can see what they are at.

Advice I received from a Nordic folk once. Clear away deep snow around your car and driveway before it becomes compacted into a mini-mountain of ice. Then you're in the 'sheeta'!

no.8

dxhound2005 wrote: »

They're less selfish than the people who went out to clear out the shops. Nobody bothered clearing the snow where I am because there was no need. There was no need for most of the panic buying either.

That's a pointless connection you made there.
What has that got to do with maintaining your home / area?

OldMrBrennan83

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dxhound2005

no.8 wrote: »

That's a pointless connection you made there.
What has that got to do with maintaining your home / area?

The people who clear snow are the types who like to be organised. They would also be the ones off to the shops for ten loaves, because they like to be prepared.

trishasaffron

Health dangers of snow shovelling
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/shovelling-snow-heart-attacks-cardiac-arrest-research-bmj-deaths-winter-a8103166.html

This is why I haven't shovelled snow!

blanch152

Here we go wrote: »

I remember in 2010 I think it was the last big freeze seeing in pappers not to clear the path as if someone fell you'd be
Liable the issue being if they fall and it's unclear ice it's act of nature or corpos issue but if you clear it's your fault it's not 100% ice free

That is completely wrong.

Ciaran_B

I didn’t clear mine. I didn’t need the car and I don’t think I own a shovel. It was 90% gone by this morning anyway.

Alun

trishasaffron wrote: »

Health dangers of snow shovelling
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/shovelling-snow-heart-attacks-cardiac-arrest-research-bmj-deaths-winter-a8103166.html

This is why I haven't shovelled snow!

What a load of bollox.

trishasaffron

Alun wrote: »

What a load of bollox.

May not be bollox if you are over 60 & have high blood pressure:o

Mint Sauce

blanch152 wrote: »

That is completely wrong.

Even though may have been untrue, there was still report and speculation, that you could have been held liable if someone did fell. The same as people said at the weekend, and during storm Ophelia, if you drive during a status red, and have and accident, that you are uninsured, which is also unture.

somesoldiers

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Even though may have been untrue, there was still report and speculation, that you could have been held liable if someone did fell. The same as people said at the weekend, and during storm Ophelia, if you drive during a status red, and have and accident, that you are uninsured, which is also unture.

was the one about the dogs dying from eating the grit untrue also?

Alun

trishasaffron wrote: »

May not be bollox if you are over 60 & have high blood pressure:o

Well, the article suggested that anyone over the age of 55 shouldn't attempt it, which most certainly is bollox. Perhaps if you're an overweight 55 year old who never exercises and lives off a diet of crisps and beer, yes, but that's not everybody.

cnocbui

I didn't lift a finger to clear my driveway and now it's clear. Sorted.

cnocbui

Alun wrote: »

Well, the article suggested that anyone over the age of 55 shouldn't attempt it, which most certainly is bollox. Perhaps if you're an overweight 55 year old who never exercises and lives off a diet of crisps and beer, yes, but that's not everybody.

Ah, an expert.

More than 11,500 people suffer a heart attack after shoveling snow each year, a New Jersey hospital says.

donaghs

cnocbui wrote: »

I didn't lift a finger to clear my driveway and now it's clear. Sorted.

Good neighbours maybe? ðŸ˜

If it melted itself, fair enough. But today I’ve seen plenty of people walking buggies having to walk on the road instead as someone wouldn’t/couldn’t clear their front path. As it’s now an difficult journey through a mix of hard ice and wet slush.

123balltv

I don't drive just wait for rain.

cnocbui

donaghs wrote: »

Good neighbours maybe?

If it melted itself, fair enough. But today I’ve seen plenty of people walking buggies having to walk on the road instead as someone wouldn’t/couldn’t clear their front path. As it’s now an difficult journey through a mix of hard ice and wet slush.

No footpath. I did salt the road near my house after hearing a car fail to get up it and have to back down.

dxhound2005

There are still mounds of dirty snow along the walls in the shop carparks in Dundalk and Newry. Days after it has disappeared naturally. I think in general it is best to leave it alone.

diomed

Alun wrote: »

Well, the article suggested that anyone over the age of 55 shouldn't attempt it, which most certainly is bollox. Perhaps if you're an overweight 55 year old who never exercises and lives off a diet of crisps and beer, yes, but that's not everybody.

I am 67 and I shovelled snow off the footpaths and roads for about three hours.
Others also did it. We left about an eighteen inch wide track which was enough.
One guy had to get his car out the next morning so we dug it out.
Lazy people will be lazy.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There are still mounds of dirty snow along the walls in the shop carparks in Dundalk and Newry. Days after it has disappeared naturally. I think in general it is best to leave it alone.

Not much good leaving it to melt naturally if you have to remain inaccessible for an extra three days as a result.

OldMrBrennan83

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diomed

Patww79 wrote: »

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Why am I worse?
I have the time and a very good snow shovel. I could move loads of snow quickly.
The house with the car snowed in - it was a new build, and I doubt they had yet accumulated the equipment.

PowerToWait

Davis Better Brake wrote: »

Not much good leaving it to melt naturally if you have to remain inaccessible for an extra three days as a result.

They've nothing too pressing to leave the house for I'd wager.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

PowerToWait wrote: »

They've nothing too pressing to leave the house for I'd wager.

I know I had.

diomed

PowerToWait wrote: »

They've nothing too pressing to leave the house for I'd wager.

Only a business trip.

Don't get the over 55s thing. It's not like your shoveling gravel.

cnocbui

Deleted User wrote: »

Don't get the over 55s thing. It's not like your shoveling gravel.

Pay no attention, it was just some know nothing cardiologist spouting off because he likes the sound of his own voice.

DEFTLEFTHAND

cnocbui wrote: »

Pay no attention, it was just some know nothing cardiologist spouting off because he likes the sound of his own voice.

Tbh apparently it is not reccommended for older people who are not aerobicly fit or anyone with a heart condition .

Somebody posted stats earlier in the thread relating to the NY NJ area where something like 11000 people have heart attacks shoveling snow each winter.

It's something they might have to do every morning for a couple of months, not just a couple of days like here.

donaghs

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There are still mounds of dirty snow along the walls in the shop carparks in Dundalk and Newry. Days after it has disappeared naturally. I think in general it is best to leave it alone.

Its probably there, because it was shovelled there. Probably to allow access on a path or road. All the big shopping centres, have ugly piles of dirty snow, but it was put there to allow people in. Probably best not to just leave it alone (excluding idiots who clear their own driveway, but shovel their snow to block the footpath, meaning the pilled up snow is still blocking the footpath days after it has melted elsewhere).

Hammer89

I was in bits after shovelling our driveway. It felt like I'd been placed inside a bodybag, and that bodybag was then beaten with pipes for about an hour. Several different parts of me ached for three or four days afterwards, particularly my arm and shoulder areas.

I think it's because I wasn't dumping the snow by flipping the shovel and letting it slide off; I was sort of popping the shovel up and throwing the snow off it, and it takes it toll on your arms when you're not a regular gym goer.

Worth it though; not because I give a f*ck about getting the car out, or my neighbours' safety when walking past our house. It's really because our driveway was a lot clearer than everyone else's and it was refreshing to know I did it.