2018 NFL Offseason Trades and Free Agent News

TOss Sweep

Isn't 20mil the base contract for QBs these days? So they are basically paying him minimum wage to play for a season. He stays healthy win win for Arizona as already mentioned he has talent.

Jolly Red Giant

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Isn't 20mil the base contract for QBs these days? So they are basically paying him minimum wage to play for a season. He stays healthy win win for Arizona as already mentioned he has talent.

Bradford has torn the ACL in his left knee twice and last season he injured the same knee twice ending up missing most of the season.

Mr. Guappa

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Isn't 20mil the base contract for QBs these days? So they are basically paying him minimum wage to play for a season. He stays healthy win win for Arizona as already mentioned he has talent.

They are going to need a strong Plan B though. Maybe retain Gabbert and draft a rookie too.

Foxtrol

What are Cardinals thinking with that move? They’re rebuilding so no real need to force a higher end QB signing. Presume they’ll draft a QB but will now also have to bring in a high end backup due to the strong likelihood of Bradford getting injured, which would otherwise result in them starting that rookie too early.

thomond2006

Taylor Gabriel to Bears!

https://twitter.com/Hawk/status/973653942918926336?s=19

Mr. Guappa

Packers signing Jimmy Graham and releasing Jordy Nelson... I'm gobsmacked at the Nelson release.

Foxtrol

Wonder if any team that has an agreement with a WR to sign tomorrow might have a change of heart now and look at Nelson

TOss Sweep

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Bradford has torn the ACL in his left knee twice and last season he injured the same knee twice ending up missing most of the season.

Noooo Really? Notice where I said "He Stays Healthy"

TOss Sweep

Foxtrol wrote: »

Wonder if any team that has an agreement with a WR to sign tomorrow might have a change of heart now and look at Nelson

Patriots losing Amendola to the Fish so heres hoping Bill swoops in

TOss Sweep

Foxtrol wrote: »

What are Cardinals thinking with that move? They’re rebuilding so no real need to force a higher end QB signing. Presume they’ll draft a QB but will now also have to bring in a high end backup due to the strong likelihood of Bradford getting injured, which would otherwise result in them starting that rookie too early.

Thing is you would expect them to get a reasonable backup also. It makes sense to have someone if healthy can win you games while your rookie QB sits and learns. Makes more sense not to force a rookie on to the field too early either. They have the cap to do it so why not try win some games and gamble on Bradford.

ScummyMan

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Packers signing Jimmy Graham and releasing Jordy Nelson... I'm gobsmacked at the Nelson release.

Could still sign back for less $$$ maybe?

cosatron

ScummyMan wrote: »

Could still sign back for less $$$ maybe?

God I hope so. I've read that he hopes to retire at GB. Delighted with graham and so disappointed to see jordy go

Foxtrol

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Thing is you would expect them to get a reasonable backup also. It makes sense to have someone if healthy can win you games while your rookie QB sits and learns. Makes more sense not to force a rookie on to the field too early either. They have the cap to do it so why not try win some games and gamble on Bradford.

You could take a gamble at a lower end QB backup if you had a QB that wasn’t a sicknote. It goes from a situation where your QB may get injured to one with Braford where it is likely.

Do they have that much cap space? I thought it was less than $30m and that was before they signed Bradford, a higher end backup, and anyone else in FA for their rebuild. They’re currently struggling to renegotiate Honeybadger’s contract. I think the signing of Bradford is a luxury gamble and even if he end up injury free they only have him undercontract for 2 years, when they’ll likely not have a team to win, and will have to renegotiate at that stage or let him go.

Foxtrol

ScummyMan wrote: »

Could still sign back for less $$$ maybe?

Would he not have renegotiated instead of getting cut if that was the case? I'm guessing he'll only be back if there isn't a market for him. Also, don't GB still have to deal with the dead money either way now even if he signed back?

peejay1986

peejay1986 wrote: »

Be interested to see what his demands are. Hopefully he's willing to take a cheap year in order to get his form back.

On the offense side, I'd love to see the Packers in for Graham but sadly it's not looking likely for a few reasons. He'd be a great option and would add a solely needed TE threat. A Saints return looks likely though.

Very happy with this apparent move. Graham will be a fantastic addition, especially with Jordy being cut.

Sad to see Jordy leave but it was looking more and more like the right move to make, especially if his deal couldn't be renegotiated.

Liking this bold approach. Hoping it continues. A lot of work still to do.

Knex*

https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/973632474344501248?s=19

TOss Sweep

Foxtrol wrote: »

You could take a gamble at a lower end QB backup if you had a QB that wasn’t a sicknote. It goes from a situation where your QB may get injured to one with Braford where it is likely.

Do they have that much cap space? I thought it was less than $30m and that was before they signed Bradford, a higher end backup, and anyone else in FA for their rebuild. They’re currently struggling to renegotiate Honeybadger’s contract. I think the signing of Bradford is a luxury gamble and even if he end up injury free they only have him undercontract for 2 years, when they’ll likely not have a team to win, and will have to renegotiate at that stage or let him go.

Isn't Honey Badger signed though til 2020? If they are negotiating with him its to give themselves room

Foxtrol

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Isn't Honey Badger signed though til 2020? If they are negotiating with him its to give themselves room

Yes, they are doing it because they don’t have all the cap space that you claimed they did. They are actually quite tight on it and at this stage they should be looking at a rebuild with the luxury of a potentially healthy Bradford for 2 seasons making little sense.

Jolly Red Giant

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Noooo Really? Notice where I said "He Stays Healthy"

The problem is that he can't stay healthy and every year the problems mount.

OldMrBrennan83

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Patww79 wrote: »

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It'll obviously be very sad to see Nelson go if he doesn't re-sign. But hes a WR whos turning 33 in 8 weeks and who has a bit of an injury history at this stage. And who was the 3rd highest paid player for the Packers (I think?) last year. It does make sense.

I do hope he signs back on at a lower salary thats weighted towards performance bonuses, though. If he has been saying he wants to see out his career at GB it might happen.

helimachoptor

Titans sign Malcolm Butler to a 5 year 61 million deal with 30 mill guaranteed

Jolly Red Giant

Eagles sign Corey Nelson LB - former Bronco

Browns sign Donald Stephenson OT - former Bronco (LMAO)

TOss Sweep

Foxtrol wrote: »

Yes, they are doing it because they don’t have all the cap space that you claimed they did. They are actually quite tight on it and at this stage they should be looking at a rebuild with the luxury of a potentially healthy Bradford for 2 seasons making little sense.

I never claimed anything. I said they had cap space for the move which they did and they will have some left. I never stated how much they had to begin with and not sure what you think I meant. Also not sure what you are trying to prove. But you mention rebuilding most of the positions they need they can fill in the draft. Offensively they need linemen and defensively they can fill their needs in the draft also. They may be "Rebuilding" but they actually have a decent base. It makes sense to want to win games.

Is Bradford a gamble? Of course he is but as I said originally if he stays healthy it could be huge for them.


As for Honey Badger according to a lot of articles coming from Arizona talks are going well with him

Condon also represents safety Tyrann Mathieu, whom the Cardinals have asked to take a pay cut. The Cardinals and Mathieu are making positive strides toward a restructured contract that will keep Mathieu in Arizona, according to a source.


Mathieu is due to have $18 million of is contract guaranteed if he is on the roster tomorrow afternoon. The Cardinals didn’t want to be on the hook for that, but they do want to keep Mathieu. A new contract would lower his cap number of $14.1 million for this year.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2018/03/13/arizona-cardinals-safety-tyrann-mathieu-contract/421254002/

TOss Sweep

helimachoptor wrote: »

Titans sign Malcolm Butler to a 5 year 61 million deal with 30 mill guaranteed

Damn kid got paid. Happy for him and good luck to him. Such a shame how it ended in NE.

Guffy

Was hoping we'd be signing Solder but it looks like hubbard will be our new RT. Id assume that means that JT won't retire? Still would have liked Solder as he could ve there for next 6 years at LT play rt for next year if thomas stays on.


In saying that any Steelers fans have any opinion on Hubbard?

paulie21

Trumaine Johnson off to the Jets at $15 million a season

Itssoeasy

Brent celek is out in Philly and he got a standing ovation at a 76ers game. Rightly deserved.

Jolly Red Giant

Not alone are the Jets signing Bridgewater - they are giving McCown $10million for next year.

Foxtrol

TOss Sweep wrote: »

I never claimed anything. I said they had cap space for the move which they did and they will have some left. I never stated how much they had to begin with and not sure what you think I meant. Also not sure what you are trying to prove. But you mention rebuilding most of the positions they need they can fill in the draft. Offensively they need linemen and defensively they can fill their needs in the draft also. They may be "Rebuilding" but they actually have a decent base. It makes sense to want to win games.

Is Bradford a gamble? Of course he is but as I said originally if he stays healthy it could be huge for them.[/url]

Having the cap space to pay for a player in no way means that it makes sense to do so, especially when they have little to nothing left over for other holes in their roster (I see way more holes than you do). By signing Bradford you're now hoping they absolutely ace the draft rather than being able to mix draft guys and a few more FA targets. Also, if they really like a QB they may need to use some of the draft capital to move up so there's even less to work with.

I'm glad you see him as a gamble but I can't agree on the huge upside. Even if he is healthy and playing well I don't think they'll be playoff contenders and if he has 2 great years, while their rookie sits, they won't even get anything for him. If anything the contract is a win for Bradford. Have to hand it to the guy, I'm struggling to think of a guy who has made more money after playing so little.

Foxtrol

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Not alone are the Jets signing Bridgewater - they are giving McCown $10million for next year.

Is Bridgewater confirmed? Unlike the Cardinals, I wouldn't say taking both of these guys and possibly even drafting a QB in the 1st if one they like falls would be the worse move. They actually have a tonne of cap space to play with and if they sign Bridgewater to a reasonable contract with the option for extension to say 4 years then he could have great trade value if he proves his fitness.

TOss Sweep

helimachoptor wrote: »

Titans sign Malcolm Butler to a 5 year 61 million deal with 30 mill guaranteed

Dion Lewis joining him

Billy86

Wilkerson signs with GB - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000921096/article/muhammad-wilkerson-signing-1year-deal-with-packers

Paully D

What a ****ing stupid, idiotic signing at that price:

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/973719863104626689?s=21

Jolly Red Giant

Cardinals doubling down for Bradford's next injury - signing Mike Glennon

So the Jets and the Cards have now signed two QBs each - the Bills are the odd ones out (they will probably try to jump to 1.3)

This could have a big draft shakeout.

gerryfed

Still no team for McCarron either! Would have presumed he'd get a shot at a starting job. Maybe the Bills pair him with a rookie? Agree on the above on Bradford, doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They're a fair few players off competing, one year Bradford deal feels now like a 'win now' move, but outside Larry Fitz, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me

phatkev

Foxtrol wrote: »

Is Bridgewater confirmed? Unlike the Cardinals, I wouldn't say taking both of these guys and possibly even drafting a QB in the 1st if one they like falls would be the worse move. They actually have a tonne of cap space to play with and if they sign Bridgewater to a reasonable contract with the option for extension to say 4 years then he could have great trade value if he proves his fitness.

They need to do this imo, McCown is only a season long deal and you would be foolish to pin your future on Bridgewater giving his injury history

helimachoptor

Dion Lewis to the Titans for a 4 year deal, 20 million + another 3 million in possible incentives

letowski

I don't know if this tweet if more suitable for the draft thread, but the Browns are signing Carlos Hyde. Possible draft implications on where Saqoun Barkley lands, maybe.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/973886706809233408

Knex*

I've always liked Hyde too. Solid pickup at 5m, imo.

Jolly Red Giant

letowski wrote: »

I don't know if this tweet if more suitable for the draft thread, but the Browns are signing Carlos Hyde. Possible draft implications on where Saqoun Barkley lands, maybe.

It likely means that the Browns take a QB with 1.1 - and it likely means that the Giants take Barkley at 1.2 - then there will be a mad scramble from Bills, Cards, Jets to jump to 1.3 and 1.4 (and 1.5).

At this stage I wouldn't be surprised to see the Broncos take Chubb at 1.5 - putting him opposite Miller would have every QB ******* their pants.

Foxtrol

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

It likely means that the Browns take a QB with 1.1 - and it likely means that the Giants take Barkley at 1.2 - then there will be a mad scramble from Bills, Cards, Jets to jump to 1.3 and 1.4 (and 1.5).

At this stage I wouldn't be surprised to see the Broncos take Chubb at 1.5 - putting him opposite Miller would have every QB ******* their pants.

Giants missed out on Norwell, lost Richburg, and may still lose Pugh on an already questionable OL. Can see them needing to take Nelson unless they can bolster it to a reasonable level elsewhere prior to the draft. Without it Barkley could easily end up wasting away like recent Giants RBs.

Still leaves the same situation with Chubb falling

Guffy

Knex. wrote: »

I've always liked Hyde too. Solid pickup at 5m, imo.

Delighted, puys an end to the barkley 1 overall nonsense

Foxtrol

49ers sign McKinnon to a 4 year $30m deal to make him one of the top paid RBs on an average per year basis. Given the normal 49ers contract negotiations he will likely need to be elected President to make that much but still more than what Hyde will get at the Browns. Despite the potential cost I’m excited to see what Shanahan can do with him. He is the extremely explosive type athlete that he loves, though hasn’t really showed it in his gameplay in the NFL.

Billy86

I've seen a good deal of McKinnon because I love watching the Vikings defense play, he's a solid player who can do things but $30mn sounds a bit mental to me and I think part of his success last year was Zimmer's system... personally I'd have rather kept Hyde.

Eagles resign bradham that's the majority of starters coming back now good stuff

Foxtrol

Billy86 wrote: »

I've seen a good deal of McKinnon because I love watching the Vikings defense play, he's a solid player who can do things but $30mn sounds a bit mental to me and I think part of his success last year was Zimmer's system... personally I'd have rather kept Hyde.

Not sure about Zimmer’s system but I think he’s a better fit for Shanahan’s than Hyde. Better in the passing game, much better blocker, generally more explosive, and apparently has more experience in running zone scheme. Despite the likely contract stipulations, the cost is pretty high but with all the cap space I’d rather them pay slightly over the odds for a guy they really wanted.

letowski

Foxtrol wrote: »

Giants missed out on Norwell, lost Richburg, and may still lose Pugh on an already questionable OL. Can see them needing to take Nelson unless they can bolster it to a reasonable level elsewhere prior to the draft. Without it Barkley could easily end up wasting away like recent Giants RBs.

Still leaves the same situation with Chubb falling

Just saw this. Big contract for Nate.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/973936848228749313

Foxtrol

letowski wrote: »

Just saw this. Big contract for Nate.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/973936848228749313

Big pay day. They’ll still likely need help in their interior, Nelson is an OG, but it is apparently a pretty deep class there so maybe they wait. Still don’t think they’ll take Barkley, more likely trade back if not Nelson.

Knex*

I'd be very surprised if Giants don't take a QB at 2, tbh.