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Jolly Red Giant

Looks like Marquette King gave the Broncos a big discount just so he could stick it to Gruden and the Raiders.

Knex*

How much can a punter really stick it to another team though. I'm sure the Raiders will be dreading coming up against him.

"Oh no. Your offense just went three and out. Please not King again"

And I say that as someone who genuinely enjoys watching punters.

TOss Sweep

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Looks like Marquette King gave the Broncos a big discount just so he could stick it to Gruden and the Raiders.

How exactly is he sticking it to the Raiders? Raiders didn't want him anymore so I doubt they care where he goes. As Knew pointed out though he is a Punter hardly in a position to stick it to anyone. Might pin them in their own redzone a few times but that is about it.

Billy86

It's a fair point, as a punter you'd want to be Shane Lechler, Andy Lee or Johnny Hekker in today's league to be able to 'stick it' to a team.

Jolly Red Giant

TOss Sweep wrote: »

How exactly is he sticking it to the Raiders? Raiders didn't want him anymore so I doubt they care where he goes. As Knew pointed out though he is a Punter hardly in a position to stick it to anyone. Might pin them in their own redzone a few times but that is about it.

Gruden cut King for 'personality issues' without ever having met him - King is pissed and said he wants revenge - the Broncos got him at a salary that places him at 19th among punters.

Who knows what impact he will have - but he is a major upgraðe for the Broncos at STs, which sucked for the Broncos last season.

TOss Sweep

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Gruden cut King for 'personality issues' without ever having met him - King is pissed and said he wants revenge - the Broncos got him at a salary that places him at 19th among punters.

Who knows what impact he will have - but he is a major upgraðe for the Broncos at STs, which sucked for the Broncos last season.

Exactly Gruden didn't want him so why would he care what he does after he leaves. So what if he didn't meet him. What revenge exactly is a Punter going to get? He is hardly in a position to get revenge unless he is dropping absolute bombs on the 1 yard line every punt and pinning the Raiders deep every time when they face each other. Him getting a decent contract with the Broncos is hardly revenge seen as his previous team just didn't want him anymore.

eagle eye

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Gruden cut King for 'personality issues' without ever having met him - King is pissed and said he wants revenge - the Broncos got him at a salary that places him at 19th among punters.

Who knows what impact he will have - but he is a major upgraor the Broncos at STs, which sucked for the Broncos last season.

He might be an upgrade on last season but not on previous to that, you had Colquitt and you let him go which was very foolish imo.

mikemac2

Billy86 wrote: »

It's a fair point, as a punter you'd want to be Shane Lechler, Andy Lee or Johnny Hekker in today's league to be able to 'stick it' to a team.

Sam Koch is better than any of these ^^^^

Billy86

Koch's very good, would very much like him in GB, but he's not been all pro five years in a row like Hekker (four first team).

Jolly Red Giant

eagle eye wrote: »

He might be an upgrade on last season but not on previous to that, you had Colquitt and you let him go which was very foolish imo.

Apart from playing well in the play-offs during the SB winning season Colquitt had been average to poor for two and a half seasons (after he was given a big contract) - Dixon was better in 2016 than Colquitt had been for some time. The Broncos made this move because Dixon was bad last season.

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Him getting a decent contract with the Broncos is hardly revenge seen as his previous team just didn't want him anymore.

The Raiders paid Marquette King an average of almost $4million a year over the past two years - the Broncos are paying King $1.5million this year (ranking him the 19th punter in salary terms in the NFL).

OldMrBrennan83

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Blut2

April 26th-28th. So only 3 weeks away.

Billy86

Patww79 wrote: »

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From 2012-2014 GB drafted three all pro DBs (Hayward 2012, Hyde 2013, Dix 2014). Yet the genius that is Dom Capers made such a balls of that much talent that in 2015 we had to go for DBs in rounds 1 and 2, and the same again in 2017. In the middle of this we also let Charles Woodson go because once he was past arguably GOAT DB levels he looked old, past it and a bit of a liability under Capers... and surely enough, he went all pro back in Oakland too! We all know who the problem was. Thankfully he's finally, FINALLY been sent into retirement.

How often teams have THREE all pros in their secondary and a pro bowler to go with them (Shields until 2016), seriously? Last year's Jaguars didn't, last year's Vikings didn't, the 2015 Broncos did, and the 2013 Seahawks did. They're the only two teams I can think of this decade to have that.

If you want to know how Dom Capers performs when his secondary is not littered with all pro talent, the last two years are great examples. This is the average stat line of a QB against us over those years: 22.5-of-34 (66.2% completion), 253 yards, 1.9 TDs (5.7%) 0.9 INTs (2.5%), 96.7 rating

And we both know that would be far, far worse if teams weren't running the clock down so much this year with our poor offense. If I'm correct we're also just about dead last in every 3rd down passing metric over that time.

Getting rid of Capers is the single best move the Packers have made since drafting Aaron Rodgers, but holding on to him for so long is at the very least the single worst move since taking Vonnie Holliday over Randy Moss back in 1998 (and making that same mistake year in, year out for half a decade).

brinty

Billy86 wrote: »

It's a fair point, as a punter you'd want to be Shane Lechler, Andy Lee or Johnny Hekker in today's league to be able to 'stick it' to a team.

mikemac2 wrote: »

Sam Koch is better than any of these ^^^^

Chris Jones.. The puntisher in Dallas beats all of these guys combined

Watch out for Michael Dickson coming out in the draft this year. It pains me to say this as a Texas Longhorns alum but he was probably our best player last year. Won the MVP in the Texas bowl with 10 of 11 punts in that game to inside the 20 with 8 in the 10 and 6 in the 5 if my memory is correct.

mikemac2

Michael Campanero to the Titans

A smaller reciever he plays in the slot and also is a punt returner

A talented player and he could do very well in Tennessee but was constantly injured. Must have missed multiple games every year of his career

Has hit FA and the Ravens don’t have a replacement lined up so despite years of patience they have moved on

NinetyTwoTeam

in other news, Robert Kraft visited Meek Mill in prison yesterday and says the judge should let him out on bail. I wouldn't have pegged them as buddies but there ya go.

i don't think OBJ is worth anything like what he wants, he's more sizzle than steak. but he's so popular and trendy he'll probably get it, especially considering no one will give up anything like a first for him. making one highlight real catch and having a funky haircut gets you 19 mil? it's like after he made that catch everyone forgot about how he dropped a TD vs the Panthers when Carolina was undefeated and basically got handled by Norman (another totally overrated dunce) for the rest of that game.

raze_them_all_

NinetyTwoTeam wrote: »

in other news, Robert Kraft visited Meek Mill in prison yesterday and says the judge should let him out on bail. I wouldn't have pegged them as buddies but there ya go.

i don't think OBJ is worth anything like what he wants, he's more sizzle than steak. but he's so popular and trendy he'll probably get it, especially considering no one will give up anything like a first for him. making one highlight real catch and having a funky haircut gets you 19 mil? it's like after he made that catch everyone forgot about how he dropped a TD vs the Panthers when Carolina was undefeated and basically got handled by Norman (another totally overrated dunce) for the rest of that game.

obj has a load of impressive highlight reel catches, hes easily top 5 recievers in league problem is julio jones is the best and he aint even near that kind of money and every team should point to that

Billy86

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

obj has a load of impressive highlight reel catches, hes easily top 5 recievers in league problem is julio jones is the best and he aint even near that kind of money and every team should point to that

To be honest, there can't be any argument made about Antonio Brown being easily the best receiver in the league. I'll give Jones second of course, but 582 catches for 7,850 yards and 52 TDs in five years (every year over 100 catches and 1,200 yards) is a whole different type of insane - before the injury late last year he was right near the top of the MVP discussion.

Though the point still stands as he's also not on $20mn if I'm correct.

raze_them_all_

Billy86 wrote: »

To be honest, there can't be any argument made about Antonio Brown being easily the best receiver in the league. I'll give Jones second of course, but 582 catches for 7,850 yards and 52 TDs in five years (every year over 100 catches and 1,200 yards) is a whole different type of insane - before the injury late last year he was right near the top of the MVP discussion.

Though the point still stands as he's also not on $20mn if I'm correct.

YEAH i could swap them 1+2, brown is 12-14 m i think

Billy86

What can I say I'm just an unashamed Brown & Bell fanboy.

Best two non-QB offensive players in the league by far imo.

eagle eye

Agree on Brown but Gronk is up there with him.
Bell wouldn't be as important because there are a lot of great RB's in the league right now. Gurley, McCoy and Elliot are all as good as him imo and you've got Fournette and Hunt who look to be that level as well but they've only had one season so far.

Billy86

True, he's a TE but Gronk is the most unstoppable weapon I've probably ever seen - Moss included, and as a Packers fan I'm all too aware how much Moss could tear a team to absolute shreds.

As for Bell, I personally would have him a small bit above those though it's really close. I'm just a huge fan of the way he runs, how he seems to take 15 minutes to get back to the line and then just effortlessly slips and glides past players like he was playing Madden on the easiest setting; I've never seen anyone run the ball anything like him and it will be interesting to see if a bunch of young guys come up emulating him over the next few years.

adrian522

So..Dez Bryant is an ex-Cowboy......

Itssoeasy

adrian522 wrote: »

So..Dez Bryant is an ex-Cowboy......

An ex cowboy ? Is he pinning for the fjords ? Sorry I'll see myself out.

Jolly Red Giant

Broncos release CJ Anderson, RB.

MileHighGuy

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Broncos release CJ Anderson, RB.

Hmm, don't know how to feel about this. I loved him in 2013/14 but we messed up with the restricted tender and ended up paying more. Hasn't really been standout since returning from injury.....but who could be running behind a line like that. On to Booker I suppose.

We'll always have the OT touchdown in the snow!

NinetyTwoTeam

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

brown is 12-14 m i think

lol wut.

NinetyTwoTeam

Jameis Winston accused of groping a female Uber driver' crotch while Ronald Darby was also in the car.

On college he was accused of sexual assault, also on a night out with Darby. And he also was filmed standing on a table in the cafeteria and shouting 'F her right in the p##sy.'

It's way too much of a coincidence to not be true IMO. He got away with it once but I can't give him the benefit of the doubt this time (well, I thought he probably did it the first time too)

The team is standing by him, simply bc he's the QB. Be interesting to see what kind of pressure the Bucs come under. IMO he should be punished, this isn't just walking out of a takeaway with crab legs you didn't pay for.

and the CB the Eagles got in the Torrey Smith trade was arrested for DUI and carrying a gun and the Birds cut him. They'd want to have a serious talk with Darby as well about the company he keeps. There's a reason they're nicknamed the Criminoles.

Foxtrol

NinetyTwoTeam wrote: »

Jameis Winston accused of groping a female Uber driver' crotch while Ronald Darby was also in the car.

On college he was accused of sexual assault, also on a night out with Darby. And he also was filmed standing on a table in the cafeteria and shouting 'F her right in the p##sy.'

It's way too much of a coincidence to not be true IMO. He got away with it once but I can't give him the benefit of the doubt this time (well, I thought he probably did it the first time too)

The team is standing by him, simply bc he's the QB. Be interesting to see what kind of pressure the Bucs come under. IMO he should be punished, this isn't just walking out of a takeaway with crab legs you didn't pay for.

and the CB the Eagles got in the Torrey Smith trade was arrested for DUI and carrying a gun and the Birds cut him. They'd want to have a serious talk with Darby as well about the company he keeps. There's a reason they're nicknamed the Criminoles.

The fact you didn’t name the CB is why he was cut. Every team makes decisions based on the level of the crime vs the talent of the player, though some are somewhat looser with them. It is the way of the NFL and it isn't going to change

TOss Sweep

Jamea Harrison retires again

Jolly Red Giant

MileHighGuy wrote: »

Hmm, don't know how to feel about this. I loved him in 2013/14 but we messed up with the restricted tender and ended up paying more. Hasn't really been standout since returning from injury.....but who could be running behind a line like that. On to Booker I suppose.

We'll always have the OT touchdown in the snow!

$4.5million against the cap - always going to be cut.

Great guy - solid pro - hope he finds a good landing spot (Miami is a possibility).

Foxtrol

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

$4.5million against the cap - always going to be cut.

Great guy - solid pro - hope he finds a good landing spot (Miami is a possibility).

Why'd they wait this long to do it? Seems like a poor way to treat a player, even worse than Bryant as at least the Cowboys signed Hurns later in FA.

Jolly Red Giant

Foxtrol wrote: »

Why'd they wait this long to do it? Seems like a poor way to treat a player

The opposite actually - CJ is a model pro - a great lockerroom influence - and noted for engaging with the community under the radar without any fanfare.

The Broncos wanted to keep Anderson, but he was going to be a back-up. He has an injury history and was scheduled to make $4.5million on a team with cap issues. The Broncos needed CJ to take a significant pay cut - a deal didn't get done.

If the Broncos wanted to mess with Anderson they could have kept him until the draft - tried to use him as trade bait during the draft - and if there was no bite, then cut him. By releasing him now he has an opportunity to find a team before the draft.

Foxtrol

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

The opposite actually - CJ is a model pro - a great lockerroom influence - and noted for engaging with the community under the radar without any fanfare.

The Broncos wanted to keep Anderson, but he was going to be a back-up. He has an injury history and was scheduled to make $4.5million on a team with cap issues. The Broncos needed CJ to take a significant pay cut - a deal didn't get done.

If the Broncos wanted to mess with Anderson they could have kept him until the draft - tried to use him as trade bait during the draft - and if there was no bite, then cut him. By releasing him now he has an opportunity to find a team before the draft.

Ah come on, the opposite would have been to cut him at the start of FA, so he had the most options. Rumours are that they had tried hard to trade him all off-season, but no one was interested on that contract. Just because cutting him after the draft would have been worse, doesn’t make holding him until just before it was a good way to treat a player.

MileHighGuy

Foxtrol wrote: »

Ah come on, the opposite would have been to cut him at the start of FA, so he had the most options. Rumours are that they had tried hard to trade him all off-season, but no one was interested on that contract. Just because cutting him after the draft would have been worse, doesn’t make holding him until just before it was a good way to treat a player.

Taken to the extreme, I suppose this is true, but doesn't it behoove a team to at least attempt to get something for a player? Even a 7th ? Anything?

so a little late in the day, but plenty of teams are holding players to see if they can be moved on draft day.

It just goes to show there is absolutely no market for anything but the very top tier RB's and even then, very little value appears to be attached to the position. A sign (to me at least) that the game has gotten a little too lop-sided towards passing.

Foxtrol

MileHighGuy wrote: »

Taken to the extreme, I suppose this is true, but doesn't it behoove a team to at least attempt to get something for a player? Even a 7th ? Anything?

so a little late in the day, but plenty of teams are holding players to see if they can be moved on draft day.

It just goes to show there is absolutely no market for anything but the very top tier RB's and even then, very little value appears to be attached to the position. A sign (to me at least) that the game has gotten a little too lop-sided towards passing.

I think it boils down to that you either put the interests of a guy who has served you well first or that a very small chance of a low pick is worth more to you. A team has every right to do the latter, but I then don’t want to hear hollow comments afterwards praising what a great guy he is and how they wish them the best, when that is clearly a secondary concern to them.

It is conflicting though. Personally, I was slightly annoyed when the 49ers released Bowman last season when they had a trade offer on the table, but the player wanted to make up his own choice. In hindsight, he was such a good servant to the team that it was the right decision to give him that opportunity.

Jolly Red Giant

Foxtrol wrote: »

I think it boils down to that you either put the interests of a guy who has served you well first or that a very small chance of a low pick is worth more to you. A team has every right to do the latter, but I then don’t want to hear hollow comments afterwards praising what a great guy he is and how they wish them the best, when that is clearly a secondary concern to them.

Trading Anderson was never an option - his contract was too big - Elway knew it, CJ knew it and every team in the league knew it.

The Broncos wanted to keep CJ and Anderson wanted to stay in Denver - the reason he was released is because CJ feels that he is a starter but the Broncos wanted him as a back-up and they couldn't reach an agreement. Anderson said he and the Broncos never discussed a reduced salary and if it had been proposed he would have rejected it - and he had absolutely no problem with when or how he was cut.

Apparently the Pats top the list of teams interested in signing him - and the list is long.

TOss Sweep

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Apparently the Pats top the list of teams interested in signing him - and the list is long.

Doubt it as we have a stacked backfield as it is but then again we are mad for the RBs lately.

Rex Burkhead
Mike Gillislee
James White
Jeremy Hill
Brandon Bolden
James Develin

I just can't see him getting any contract of worth from the Pats as it will be a low basic earn your pay 1 year deal if any.

TOss Sweep

So when I got home from work I got caught up on all the usual Pats beat writers and news and not one of them said the Patriots are currently interested in Anderson. In fact most if not all of the articles or podcasts or vids or analysts all are tying past interest in him as the Patriots being interested in him now. So no concrete interest from the Patriots at this point in Anderson.

As I said above we have stacked backfield and I doubt the Patriots will offer much money for him and unless he feels winning is more important than money then he will most likely find a home elsewhere.

j8wk2feszrnpao

TOss Sweep wrote: »

So when I got home from work I got caught up on all the usual Pats beat writers and news and not one of them said the Patriots are currently interested in Anderson. In fact most if not all of the articles or podcasts or vids or analysts all are tying past interest in him as the Patriots being interested in him now. So no concrete interest from the Patriots at this point in Anderson.

As I said above we have stacked backfield and I doubt the Patriots will offer much money for him and unless he feels winning is more important than money then he will most likely find a home elsewhere.

Agreed, we have no need for Anderson, esp with the options already there.

j8wk2feszrnpao

MileHighGuy wrote: »

doesn't it behoove a team to at least attempt to get something for a player? Even a 7th ? Anything?

I think the team is ok with doing that. He's under contract.
But it's not the opposite of treating a player poorly either.

TOss Sweep

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Agreed, we have no need for Anderson, esp with the options already there.

Mad thing is had the Broncos not held on to him so long and he was available at the time we signed Hill I think he would have been a Pats player before Hill. But who knows at this point. It's anyones guess. Just can't see him going to NE unless its a major pay cut