Dublin Water problems

thomasj

oh dear, hopefully its not too serious and can be resolved easily
https://www.rte.ie/news/weather/2018/0305/945031-storm-emma-clear-up/

reduced or possibly no water in some cases 7pm-7am for weeks possibly months

Bob Harris

Thanks for that Thomas...and now the sport...

VinLieger

What do we expect with no real investment in infrastructure for decades, expect more situations like drogheda in dublin in the years to come.

Also the morons leaving their taps on during the snow obviously didn't help either

HeidiHeidi

Fook..... my central heating is about to conk out due to low pressure in the boiler. If I can't get more water into the system (and I can't at the moment) - that's the end of my heating :eek:

dxhound2005

I'm keeping some snow in my green bin.

Yer Da sells Avon

Just remember the following and you'll be ok:

"if it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, fling it out the window"

nice_guy80

they're looking for water from the Shannon straight away

serves them right for living in the driest part of Ireland

Trigger Happy

Dopes running their taps and filling their baths with water 'just in case'. Same happened in 2010. Water charges would have helped curtail some of this behaviour!

And then of course there is the creaking infrastructure.

suicide_circus

No way, we won't pay.

#right2water

Muahahaha

This is going to turn into Irish Water thread #1,731. Sigh.

uck51js9zml2yt

Blame all those who refused to pay water charges for an improved service.

blanch152

Alyssa Loose Hive wrote: »

Blame all those who refused to pay water charges for an improved service.

Absolutely, this was inevitable from the time people started opposing water charges.

Where is Paul Murphy now? If he does surface, he will be blaming the government, when it was people like him who have caused this problem.

TheAnalyst_

hahah can't pay won't pay. Enjoy your third world water you clowns.

Ajsoprano

This will be used as a political football for water charges.

HeidiHeidi

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

hahah can't pay won't pay. Enjoy your third world water you clowns.

What about those of us who wanted to pay?

ETA - maybe "wanted" is overstating it - didn't object to paying.

TheAnalyst_

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

What about those of us who wanted to pay?

ETA - maybe "wanted" is overstating it - didn't object to paying.

My sympathies to you. You are surrounded by idiots.

HeidiHeidi

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

My sympathies to you. You are surrounded by idiots.

Sympathy won't fill my central heating system :mad:

OldMrBrennan83

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Inviere

Alyssa Loose Hive wrote: »

Blame all those who refused to pay water charges for an improved service.

Yes, indeed, no doubt every cent of revenue raised by water charges would have gone directly into the water infrastructure system. Yep, indeedy, it totally would have. Had we paid the charges, we'd have had a world class water treatment & delivery service by now.

TheAnalyst_

Inviere wrote: »

Yes, indeed, no doubt every cent of revenue raised by water charges would have gone directly into the water infrastructure system. Yep, indeedy, it totally would have. Had we paid the charges, we'd have had a world class water treatment & delivery service by now.

It would have been metered so that would have stopped the abuse.

JohnnyFlash

Ajsoprano wrote: »

This will be used as a political football for water charges.

Proper order too. Arseholes like Paul Murphy, Mick Wallace, and Brendan Ogle made it into a political football in the first place. Imagine having to spend the price of a bag of spuds a week for proper investment in our creaking water infrastructure? Those goons ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Inviere

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

It would have been metered so that would have stopped the abuse.

Yep, and the revenue raised would have covered the real issue (the not fit for purpose Victorian era infrastructure). I fully believe it.

Inviere

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Proper order too. Arseholes like Paul Murphy, Mick Wallace, and Brendan Ogle made it into a political football in the first place. Imagine having to spend the price of a bag of spuds a week for proper investment in our creaking water infrastructure? Those goons ought to be ashamed of themselves.

I rather think many, myself included, have no objection whatsoever to a fairly metered water treatment & delivery service whereby raised capital is directly reinvested back into the system, and obviously covers associated costs. Many, however, were not convinced that such revenue would be reinvested back into the system itself. Many, instead, likely believed that it was step one of a privatization plan which would have made a LOT of revenue, which wouldn't have made its way back into the water infrastructure.

Ajsoprano

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Proper order too. Arseholes like Paul Murphy, Mick Wallace, and Brendan Ogle made it into a political football in the first place. Imagine having to spend the price of a bag of spuds a week for proper investment in our creaking water infrastructure? Those goons ought to be ashamed of themselves.

I’m not going to get into it. Couldn’t be bothered. It’ll be used as an excuse to spend nothing on water infrastructure anymore. At the time I couldn’t afford it and opposed it out of desperation. Now I could afford it but it’ll just be ramped up pricewise and only a percentage would go on water.
I’ve said enough already. I’m not going to speak more on the issue

TheAnalyst_

Ajsoprano wrote: »

I’m not going to get into it. Couldn’t be bothered. It’ll be used as an excuse to spend nothing on water infrastructure anymore. At the time I couldn’t afford it and opposed it out of desperation. Now I could afford it but it’ll just be ramped up pricewise and only a percentage would go on water.
I’ve said enough already. I’m not going to speak more on the issue

It will end up costing you more as they find the money from other tax areas that half the non working country will avoid. You'll fully subsidise them and the heavy users.

Captain Obvious

Inviere wrote: »

I rather think many, myself included, have no objection whatsoever to a fairly metered water treatment & delivery service whereby raised capital is directly reinvested back into the system, and obviously covers associated costs. Many, however, were not convinced that such revenue would be reinvested back into the system itself. Many, instead, likely believed that it was step one of a privatization plan which would have made a LOT of revenue, which wouldn't have made its way back into the water infrastructure.

And that belief was based on nothing at all.

Yer Da sells Avon

Captain Obvious wrote: »

And that belief was based on nothing at all.

I certainly wouldn't trust either Fine Gael or Fianna Fail not to eventually privatise the country's water infrastructure.

micks_address

Can you run a dishwasher cycle on reduced water pressure? Have it ready to switch on but reduced water pressure from 7 to 7

Ajsoprano

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

It will end up costing you more as they find the money from other tax areas that half the non working country will avoid. You'll fully subsidise them and the heavy users.

Stop pulling me into a conversation on this. I don’t mind a bit of my tax going to the needy. It will be privatized. Price will be ramped up like bin charges. Now they can fine you if a kid eating toast drops it in your green bin on his way to school.
It’s Fine Gael 101 we cant run it give it to a private company. After years of disdain shown to the average man do you think Fine Gael will say “hey lads we have privatized everything here’s a tax cut” or will they say “hey big corporation we have privatized everything here’s some tax cuts.
I know what my monies on.

thomasj

micks_address wrote:

Can you run a dishwasher cycle on reduced water pressure? Have it ready to switch on but reduced water pressure from 7 to 7

Im not sure but Dublin water have asked people not to use the dishwasher.

Ajsoprano

thomasj wrote: »

Im not sure but Dublin water have asked people not to use the dishwasher.

The worse thing that’ll happen is your dishwasher will stop working. When you get pressure turn it off and on again.

andekwarhola

Inviere wrote: »

I rather think many, myself included, have no objection whatsoever to a fairly metered water treatment & delivery service whereby raised capital is directly reinvested back into the system, and obviously covers associated costs. Many, however, were not convinced that such revenue would be reinvested back into the system itself. Many, instead, likely believed that it was step one of a privatization plan which would have made a LOT of revenue, which wouldn't have made its way back into the water infrastructure.

Like so many other principled stances of objection, the fact that it had to be paid for by people obviously didn't factor at all in to the equation.

Creative83

Alyssa Loose Hive wrote: »

Blame all those who refused to pay water charges for an improved service.

It's a good thing we are already paying for water services through our income tax

andekwarhola

Creative83 wrote: »

It's a good thing we are already paying for water services through our income tax

Given our pathetic public services, we're clearly not paying enough.

Or should I say the mugs stuck on middle income need to be squeezed more to fund services that large swathes of the public expect but won't pay for.

Harry Palmr

Blame everyone esp those who have spent years, decades prevaricating as greater Dublin's population rose by about 40% in 40 years and a new generation of water-heavy technologies in industry and at home became the norm.

The Shannon needs to be tapped in to, new reservoirs need building. New mains need laying and it all needs paying for.

begbysback

Don't see what the big deal is, there's loadsa water in my tap

OldMrBrennan83

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Hitman3000

Cool another IW thread. Full of the usual suspects whinging about those that stood up to the government.lol.

begbysback

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Blame everyone esp those who have spent years, decades prevaricating as greater Dublin's population rose by about 40% in 40 years and a new generation of water-heavy technologies in industry and at home became the norm.

The Shannon needs to be tapped in to, new reservoirs need building. New mains need laying and it all needs paying for.

May I suggest we start charging he Catholic Church tax on the property & land it has accumulated?

Hitman3000

TheAnalyst_ wrote:

hahah can't pay won't pay. Enjoy your third world water you clowns.

Third world water?What does first world water look like? Is it similar to third world water and the taste is it the same?

Hitman3000

TheAnalyst_ wrote:

It would have been metered so that would have stopped the abuse.

Would it have filled the reservoirs?

Spanish Eyes

The perennial question.... is is safe to leave the central heating going when water pressure is low?

My heating also heats the water in the hot press, sometimes to alarming levels!

My head is telling me that the cylinder will fill up during high pressure times and all will be ok, and the central heating is a closed system I think, like circulating the same water in the rads. Other than that I'm clueless and always worry about something blowing up!

Hitman3000

micks_address wrote:

Can you run a dishwasher cycle on reduced water pressure? Have it ready to switch on but reduced water pressure from 7 to 7

Use the sink, cheaper.

TheAnalyst_

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Third world water?What does first world water look like? Is it similar to third world water and the taste is it the same?

It trickles.

Harry Palmr

begbysback wrote: »

May I suggest we start charging he Catholic Church tax on the property & land it has accumulated?

I wouldn't suggest a sectarian tax myself! The government can borrow billions at a long term rate of a about half nothing over half a century.

Hitman3000

TheAnalyst_ wrote:

It trickles.

Mine is fine no trickle and I live in Ireland unlike you.

Johnnycanyon

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Proper order too. Arseholes like Paul Murphy, Mick Wallace, and Brendan Ogle made it into a political football in the first place. Imagine having to spend the price of a bag of spuds a week for proper investment in our creaking water infrastructure? Those goons ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Sounds great "a bag of spuds a week" which most people could stomach..but the bag of spuds would eventually be a Kings ransom every week here in greedy Ireland!

TallGlass

The problem for most people, wasn't paying for water. It was how the entire implementation was handled and literally rammed in, as in typical government style and one more thing to note, it was literally brought in right after a property tax. To me the point wasn't the water, it was the fact the government where pulling a very fine fúckin-g fast one. It was rightly so stopped in it's tracks.

Inviere

Captain Obvious wrote: »

And that belief was based on nothing at all.

I guess after the inception of Irish Water cost the taxpayer about two billion euros, people were wondering how that money was going to be recouped. Personally, I feel most, maybe all, of the current political parties, no matter how they're viewed, have at least some redeeming qualities (except the looney left). Fianna Gael though, they're a different breed of b@stard. I'd put very very little stock in any reassurance from that shower.

Hitman3000

TallGlass wrote:

The problem for most people, wasn't paying for water. It was how the entire implementation was handled and literally rammed in, as in typical government style and one more thing to note, it was literally brought in right after a property tax. To me the point wasn't the water, it was the fact the government where pulling a very fine fúckin-g fast one. It was rightly so stopped in it's tracks.

My favourite was the laughing yoga classes for Irish water staff, value for money there.

plastic glass

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Stop pulling me into a conversation on this. I don’t mind a bit of my tax going to the needy. It will be privatized. Price will be ramped up like bin charges. Now they can fine you if a kid eating toast drops it in your green bin on his way to school.
It’s Fine Gael 101 we cant run it give it to a private company. After years of disdain shown to the average man do you think Fine Gael will say “hey lads we have privatized everything here’s a tax cut” or will they say “hey big corporation we have privatized everything here’s some tax cuts.
I know what my monies on.

I thought you weren’t going to say any more on the topic? Just because you don’t want to talk about it doesn’t mean we can’t.

“Stop pulling me into a conversation on this” ffs.