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Aritech CS350 - open zone - wire severed?

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  • 07-03-2018 3:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭


    Hi there,

    I have an Aritech CS350. When I tried set the alarm at the panel, I received an Open Zone Message 04 (which is my downstairs front windows).

    I checked the downstairs front windows and they are all closed.

    Around this time, I had been drilling screws into the upstairs floorboards to tighten them as they are creaking.

    Is there any chance that I severed a sensor wire while I was drilling? The downstairs front windows have wires that disappear into the ceiling. Obviously, I can't tell where they run. Could they be running under the floorboards upstairs?

    Perhaps I'm being paranoid, but the sensors are quite new.

    Any troubleshooting advice would be gratefully appreciated.

    Regards

    James


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You are unlikely to have hit a wire drilling into the floorboards, you would have been drilling into the beams surly.
    Is this a pre-wired house?
    How many sensors are on that zone?
    Try disconnecting them one by one & close of the cables.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Hi Koolkid,

    Thanks for the reply.

    I was trying to drill the floorboards into the joist beams as they creak a lot (in advance of laying a new carpet). It was a bad floor installation.

    The house was pre-wired (we moved in). How do I close off the cables? They are HKC shock sensors (white).

    There's only two sensors involved. It says Open Zone(s) Front Windows. These are not magnets. They are shock sensors.

    Thanks in advance


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Can you open the sensors and post up a photo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    pMPS1s.jpg

    FPluvK.jpg

    The sensor with two cables and four colours has:

    Yellow and Blue in Slot 1

    Red in Slot 2

    Blue in Slot 3

    Yellow in Slot 4

    Black in Slot 5

    Black and Red in Slot 6

    The sensor with one cable has the following:

    Red Slot 2
    Yellow Slot 3
    Blue Slot 4
    Black Slot 5


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Where there are 2 cables join colour to colour.
    On the single cable join red to black & blue to yellow.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Ok. I have exposed the wires and spliced them together as per your instruction above. They are just loosely dangling. Not in the slots. Is that OK?

    The same message is at the panel. Open Zone.

    Does that shed any light on what might be wrong?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    OK . Now separate the blue & yellow on the single cable and see if it shows a tamper also?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Just separated the blue and yellow wires on the single cable.

    No mention of Tamper on the panel.

    Just the usual Open Zone Message and can't set alarm


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Ok
    Now goto the two loops and join red and black on each of the cables.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Hi Koolkid.

    I've gone to the two cabled sensor and joined opposite reds to opposite blacks.

    Still no change on the panel.

    I apologise for taking up so much of your time.

    I am on a 'hiding to nothing' here? I might need to call a professional.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    What you need to do is join red and black together on each individual cable.
    Don't give up yet. It's a process of elimination.
    Do you have a multimeter by any chance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Hi Koolkid,

    As luck would have it, I was dropping the kids off at school and saw an alarm company van. Tried my luck. It was one of the parents from another class.

    Anyway, he came out immediately as he was on leave today.

    He opened up the fuse box and did a few checks to ensure there was no cut in supply. It was fine. My drilling didn't cause it :)

    Then he tested the control panel and it was fine.

    Next step was the sensors. He agreed with everything you had suggested to date as fully correct :)

    He exposed and trimmed more of the wires as they were a bit wispy and flimsy. Like strands of hair. So the wires are now more robust.

    Anyway, long story short, he cleared the Open Zone issue and the alarm can now be reset.

    There was no need to change the sensors and he didn't use any new parts. He chalked it off to experience. Just one of those things!!

    Thanks a million for your advice. You're so patient.

    What I've learnt from this thread is that you can close a circuit and prove it's not electrical by:

    o Joining similar colours on a two-cable sensors
    o Joining red/black and blue/yellow on a one-cable sensor.

    Hopefully it's useful to people in the future.


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