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GP with alternative medicine background?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭DemocAnarchis


    I'd hope not! Most GPs would be reluctant to prescribe antibiotics if possible anyway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Unfortunately this is not my experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,529 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If a GP judges you need an antibiotic and you refuse to take one they aren't going to sign off on a potential return to work date on a cert. Wouldn't be worth the liability to their medical negligence insurance or medical registration.

    I would also hope there isn't a GP in the land who believes in homeopathic nonsense. ITS WATER.


  • Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭recipesforme


    Hi Hopppipolla,

    Dr Madeline Stringer in Dundrum is a fully qualified GP and practices as such, but she also has a background in alternative therapies as they are not mutually exclusive.

    If you google her name you'll find her details


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,889 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Dr Madeline Stringer in Dundrum is a fully qualified GP and practices as such, but she also has a background in alternative therapies as they are not mutually exclusive.

    they bloody well should be mutually exclusive - I assume medical doctors learn about the scientific method when they are being trained, & homeopathy is thoroughly discredited bunk.

    At best it's a placebo, but giving it any credence (say by having a qualified GP using it) will only encourage people to disregard and avoid actual scientifically tested treatments, with potentially tragic consequences.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭recipesforme


    Hi loyatemu.

    The OP asked for the name of a "GP with homeopathic/holistic background", not everyone's opinions on homeopathy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,529 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Hi loyatemu.

    The OP asked for the name of a "GP with homeopathic/holistic background", not everyone's opinions on homeopathy.

    Homeopathy not working is not an opinion


  • Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭recipesforme


    Nor is it an answer to the OPs question


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,889 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Hi loyatemu.

    The OP asked for the name of a "GP with homeopathic/holistic background", not everyone's opinions on homeopathy.

    "they are not mutually exclusive" is an opinion and that's what I was responding to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,536 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Hi loyatemu.

    The OP asked for the name of a "GP with homeopathic/holistic background", not everyone's opinions on homeopathy.

    And this is a discussion site where discussions can spring from questions asked. This is not Ask.com, or Google. The OP doesn't get to decide how people react to their question.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭recipesforme


    And yet no one was actually providing a reply. Why would anyone bother asking anything if it's constantly going to be derailed?

    I was merely trying to help out the OP by providing an answer to the question they asked


  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭keyboard_cat


    L1011 wrote: »
    If a GP judges you need an antibiotic and you refuse to take one they aren't going to sign off on a potential return to work date on a cert. Wouldn't be worth the liability to their medical negligence insurance or medical registration.

    I would also hope there isn't a GP in the land who believes in homeopathic nonsense. ITS WATER.

    I was sick a few weeks ago with flu and chest infection my GP gave me a prescription for antibiotics to which i said i didn't need and wouldn't take and he still gave me a cert for work and MC1 form.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,092 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/17/well/the-cost-of-not-taking-your-medicine.html
    There is an out-of-control epidemic in the United States that costs more and affects more people than any disease Americans currently worry about. It’s called nonadherence to prescribed medications, and it is — potentially, at least — 100 percent preventable by the very individuals it afflicts.

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    ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    I was sick a few weeks ago with flu and chest infection my GP gave me a prescription for antibiotics to which i said i didn't need and wouldn't take and he still gave me a cert for work and MC1 form.

    How do you know you didn't need it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,180 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    How do you know you didn't need it.

    Everyone in Ireland is an expert on everything. It's part of our charm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭keyboard_cat


    How do you know you didn't need it.

    Because i could feel myself getting better every day and was more or less at the end of my sickness by the time i went to the doctor (i only really went for the cert for work). Also having the doctor say to me to take the amoxicillin just to speed the recovery process along i just didn't see the point when i knew i was recovering fine without it (i was back to normal 3 days later perhaps with the antibiotics i would have been better in 2 i who knows).

    Anyways i just felt the doctor was very flippant in prescribing them he didn't argue with me or say it was a bad idea when i said i wouldn't take them. and it fairly well document that antibiotics are way over prescribed and all the problems that is causing which also came into my decision making a bit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    How do you know you didn't need it.

    Because there was a bottle of flat 7UP on standby :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    L1011 wrote: »
    If a GP judges you need an antibiotic and you refuse to take one they aren't going to sign off on a potential return to work date on a cert. Wouldn't be worth the liability to their medical negligence insurance or medical registration.

    I would also hope there isn't a GP in the land who believes in homeopathic nonsense. ITS WATER.

    Homeopathy must have some value given that the British royal family use it and they live well into their 80s and 90s.


  • Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Walter Bishop


    No it musn't, just because someone allegedly uses it and is old, it does not necessarily follow that homeopathy had anything to do with it.

    It has been debunked by numerous studies, so if you prefer anecdotes to data then fire away, but homeopathy has no effect on you except to lighten your wallet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    No it musn't, just because someone allegedly uses it and is old, it does not necessarily follow that homeopathy had anything to do with it.

    It has been debunked by numerous studies, so if you prefer anecdotes to data then fire away, but homeopathy has no effect on you except to lighten your wallet.

    My point is that the royal family must be doing something right to live so long.

    They also have very low rates of cancer compared with the general population.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    My point is that the royal family must be doing something right to live so long.

    They also have very low rates of cancer compared with the general population.

    Might be something to do with having immediate access to world class healthcare and living relatively privileged lifestyles?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,289 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Because there was a bottle of flat 7UP on standby :p
    Don't ever keep it in the fridge. Only works at room temperature.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I was sick a few weeks ago with flu and chest infection my GP gave me a prescription for antibiotics to which i said i didn't need and wouldn't take and he still gave me a cert for work and MC1 form.


    Why pay a GP & then not take their advice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,289 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Why pay a GP & then not take their advice?
    It's the downside to postmodernism. Every opinion carries equal weight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Why pay a GP & then not take their advice?

    Because they could be wrong.

    I notice most GP's will want to write a prescription at the end of the consultation no matter what the issue is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,289 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Because they could be wrong.

    I notice most GP's will want to write a prescription at the end of the consultation no matter what the issue is.
    I haven't noticed that. You need to find a new doctor, or start taking better care of yourself!


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,529 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Homeopathy must have some value given that the British royal family use it and they live well into their 80s and 90s.

    No, it has absolutely none. It is nonsense that preys on the vulnerable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,268 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    Homeopathy must have some value given that the British royal family use it and they live well into their 80s and 90s.

    Maybe in the 19th century when the alternative was leeches and blood-letting and mercury...

    But this doesn't seem very homeopathic...
    "The Duke of Edinburgh is due to have an exploratory operation on his abdomen after spending the night in hospital. The Queen's husband, who will be 92 on Monday, was admitted to the London Clinic on Thursday and is expected to stay in hospital for about two weeks."
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-22809285

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/746446/queen-elizabeth-ill-sick-illness-unwell-cold-past-health

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭keyboard_cat


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Why pay a GP & then not take their advice?

    Because i only needed the sick cert for work


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