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Chicken has no taste

  • 13-03-2018 3:04pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭


    Has anyone else noticed chicken in Ireland is tasteless ?

    Every friend/relative that comes over from abroad noticed & said the same thing (without me asking) that the chicken is tasteless.

    I noticed as well of course and not only chicken, fruits as well, and after asking other people what they think, it seems they feel the same.

    Tried free range, fresh, different stores .. not sure where else to look for .. any suggestions ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    How are you cooking your chicken? And how are you seasoning it?

    Chicken is pretty bland without seasoning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    I'm referring and comparing it with plain chicken.
    It wouldn't make a difference, grilled, oven, fried, once you tried it abroad .. it's really noticeable.

    And I am not comparing it with taking the chicken from the country side/farm, because there is simply no comparison, it was 1000 times tastier than the one bought in stores even abroad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    To be honest, what else do we expect from the vast amounts of factory farmed chicken that we eat? A whole chicken for €3 isn’t going to deliver hugely on taste. You’ll obviously get more flavour from a whole roast chicken than a breast, but if the underlying quality isn’t great, there’s nothing you can do

    I consciously stopped buying factory farmed chicken a while back. It costs more to buy organic and free-range but there’s no comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Agree, heard many noticed a difference on taste between free-range and the normal one, I personally didn't.
    I would be tempted to try buying from a local farm or a farmer, don't really know where from though .. (I'm based in Dublin)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,819 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Have you tried corn fed chicken?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Have you tried corn fed chicken?

    Not sure if I had, definitely not lately, but good idea .. I'll try it next!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭Wildcard7


    As someone who's been living in another country for 30 years and in Ireland for 5, I can't say I notice any difference. That's true for chicken drumsticks, wings and breasts from Tesco anyway. Plain chicken in chinese restaurants tastes weird and tasteless to me (which is why I always order crispy shredded chicken). Almost like they boil it in water or something.

    Offtopic: What annoys me is that it's impossible to get decent bacon that you can actually fry, because every pack of bacon oozes out half a pint of water and you inevitabely end up cooking it instead of frying it (or scoop all the water out). That's also true for other meats (even mince). I don't recognize that from the place I grew up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    OP if you want good quality tasty chicken, you will pay a lot more than 4 euro in Lidl. Corn fed chicken or free range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Check this out, my mother in law comes over, prepares a soup and a couple of other meals and says it from the 1st bite she has:
    "what's wrong with the chicken? It's tasteless"

    Then my mother, comes over just a week ago and same, she cooks something and then says the same thing "this chicken doesn't have any taste at all!"

    I don't think it's a coincidence as I noticed it too, and I'm not picky at all, I'd eat anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    OP if you want good quality tasty chicken, you will pay a lot more than 4 euro in Lidl. Corn fed chicken or free range.

    Definitely tried free range, from a couple of stores actually, no noticeable difference ..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    We used to go on holiday to France when I was a kid and we’d buy food in the supermarket so we could cook some of our meals. I always thought the chicken was so much tastier there than in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    With chicken, we'd notice a difference out of the butcher compared to the supermarkets taste wise, even though both probably raised the same. We did go through a period, and notice a taste difference, in free range but not enough to justify the cost tbh (much as we'd like too).

    Regarding fruit - we simply don't eat local varieties, in season (is peach ever "in season" in Ireland?). It's getting shipped here, so not rippened on the plant, bred for transportation and not taste etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    rosmoke wrote:
    Definitely tried free range, from a couple of stores actually, no noticeable difference ..


    Go to a butcher not a multiple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Now you remind me of when I went to Spain 2 years ago, every fruit I tried from supermarket was delicious!
    Unlike here, where even fruits are plain.

    I noticed there is a shop beside Sunflower takeaway in Templeogue that sell fruits, their peaches are the only ones that actually have taste from around here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭coffeepls


    Dunnes stores corn fed chicken fillets. Not tesco, and I haven’t tried elsewhere. Even my little niece noticed how lovely the Dunnes corn fed chicken was. Its just so good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,819 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    rosmoke wrote: »
    Not sure if I had, definitely not lately, but good idea .. I'll try it next!

    I think it's more readily available now, have pick it up in Supervalu, Tesco and LIDL though it's usually bit more expensive.

    It's very nice, although apart from one or two exceptions, I find the supermarket chickens taste nice too. And chicken thighs tend to have more flavour than breasts, although seems to be harder to find them on the shelves lately for some reason.

    And I like other poultry e.g. duck which has strong flavour, so I'm not seeking out the blandest whitest meat or anything.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Yeah, we usually cook thighs/legs as well, as they should have more flavour than breast.
    I'll definitely give it a go today/tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,896 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    If literally everything your relatives have eaten here is more tasteless than what they have at home then I suspect that seasoning techniques are the culprit. Some countries/cuisines use eye-watering amounts of salt.

    In terms of fruit, it's a bit of a no-brainer that locally-grown seasonal fruits are going to taste better in their native country compared to here. However, stuff that we can grow here can compete with the best in the world when it's in season, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,819 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    If literally everything your relatives have eaten here is more tasteless than what they have at home then I suspect that seasoning techniques are the culprit. Some countries/cuisines use eye-watering amounts of salt.

    And if it's France... butter or oil too!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,595 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Go to a butcher not a multiple.

    I think this point is questionable - there are good butchers certainly, but poor butchers also, similarly some supermarkets do very good quality meat and poultry.

    The vast majority of chicken fillets in butchers are not Irish and not free range. Unless you specifically ask for Irish chicken fillets they are probably not Irish in fact.

    With supermarkets at least there is more transparency with labelling. In fact one of my local butchers sells Sli Eile chicken fillets which are actually Dutch when you look at the producer code. Nothing wrong with dutch chicken fillets but to brand them Sli Eile is misleading imo.

    I find the farmers to market free range chicken very good (available in SV and in tesco), and also like the M&S corn fed free range chicken.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Tenigate


    I'd agree that fat, mass produced hens probably taste a bit bland. Then, a lot of it is in the preparation. I think the oven needs to be at 230 degrees for the best flavour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Lived for over 20 years abroad and there is a clear difference between a leg of chicken on the barbecue with a pinch of salt there compared with the one here, that's why I know it's not about condiments.

    Tried free range, will try corn fed and get back with updates haha, thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,612 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I find cooking a whole chicken is far better than buying fillets etc. had some in a salad today and it makes a huge difference having the skin and the mix of leg meat and breast meat.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Sometimes I buy a ready cooked chicken from Dunne's and the taste s usually great .. I think too that many folk are used to highly spiced and flavoured foods whereas I eat very plain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    If literally everything your relatives have eaten here is more tasteless than what they have at home then I suspect that seasoning techniques are the culprit. Some countries/cuisines use eye-watering amounts of salt..
    They said both the mother and mother in law both cooked it themselves.

    I wonder how much they are paying at home, are they comparing like with like.

    Tesco finest 1.2kg corn fed chickens are 4.35 at the moment

    SAVE 33%
    valid until 3/4/2018
    €4.35

    https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=297887716

    BUT -looking again I see it is stuffed and in a bag...
    Irish roast in the bag corn fed whole chicken stuffed with wheaten bread, ginger and apricot stuffing, wrapped in Irish unsmoked streaky bacon and sprinkled with parsley.

    Tesco Finest Cook in the bag Corn Fed Irish Whole Chicken with Wheaten Bread, Ginger & Apricot stuffing

    It is 88% chicken so just over a kilo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    rosmoke wrote: »
    Lived for over 20 years abroad and there is a clear difference between a leg of chicken on the barbecue with a pinch of salt there compared with the one here, that's why I know it's not about condiments.

    Tried free range, will try corn fed and get back with updates haha, thanks!

    What could possibly make chicken in Ireland different? It’s not even probably Irish chicken.

    What matters with chicken is the cooking. It can be dry if cooked incorrectly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,635 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    dudara wrote: »
    To be honest, what else do we expect from the vast amounts of factory farmed chicken that we eat? A whole chicken for €3 isn’t going to deliver hugely on taste. You’ll obviously get more flavour from a whole roast chicken than a breast, but if the underlying quality isn’t great, there’s nothing you can do

    I consciously stopped buying factory farmed chicken a while back. It costs more to buy organic and free-range but there’s no comparison.
    Have you any idea what counts as free range chicken? There’s not much difference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    What could possibly make chicken in Ireland different?.
    The breed, what they are fed, probably more factors. As I was saying they simply may not sell cheap chickens where they are from, if so it unfair to compare if they are the equivalent of some expensive butchers or "finest" range from supermarkets.

    I found tesco do have unstuffed corn fed chickens too. 6euro for 1.1kg, but it is part of a meal deal thing too

    https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=290315743


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,635 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    silverharp wrote: »
    I find cooking a whole chicken is far better than buying fillets etc. had some in a salad today and it makes a huge difference having the skin and the mix of leg meat and breast meat.
    I cook one a full one ever Sunday.
    Cover in oil, sea salt and pepper
    Then use it for making wraps and sandwiches for lunch during the week. Much better value than buying chicken any other way


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