Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt. 2

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Cantona's Collars

Is anyone finding this attitude of teams in the quarter finals to just go for it and forget about the away goal refreshing? It's served up some brilliant entertainment and light years from the dross we were served up in the Sevilla games.

pjohnson

Mitch Connor wrote: »

100% disagree.

If he moves to United he will double the wages he could ever hope to get at celtic and also play and challenge himself at a far higher level which will help him become the best he can be.

I find the idea of him staying at celtic for a prolonged period is insane, would speak of him having no ambition beyond sitting in a comfort zone.

Maybe not this summer, but if he continues his trajectory he has to be going by summer 19.

Well I wouldn't call Totti or Le Tissier as lacking ambition. Loyalty isn't a bad thing. Uncommon but not bad.

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Cantona's Collars

Daley Blind interview with Ajax Showtime.

“United still have faith in me. I hear that the club’s high-ups are satisfied with me, and they just want me to keep on working,” he told Ajax Showtime magazine. “There are lots of transfer rumours surrounding United. Five or six players in my position are linked to the club every week, and given my contract situation it’s logical people have written about me leaving.

“Jose Mourinho gave me over 30 matches in his first year in charge, which not everyone had expected. He stated his faith in me, and I have done my best to reward him. I have a great relationship with him. He always involves me with the first team, even though he picks other players.

“That can happen at this level - this is Manchester United, and there is lots of competition for places. It’s down to me to keep working hard, get as many minutes as possible and show what I can do.”

Drumpot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

100% disagree.

If he moves to United he will double the wages he could ever hope to get at celtic and also play and challenge himself at a far higher level which will help him become the best he can be.

I find the idea of him staying at celtic for a prolonged period is insane, would speak of him having no ambition beyond sitting in a comfort zone.

Maybe not this summer, but if he continues his trajectory he has to be going by summer 19.

If I was his agent I would suggest joining an Everton or some other mid table team, but not united. Even arsenal would be a good move considering how much Wenger bloods young players. He would get a huge wage bump, go up a level and get games. If he’s good enough he will end up at a large club anyway.

If he is was going to united, he should insist on being loaned out unless he is going to get games.

I would also agree with pjohnson that amibition is different for some players. Ambition to be the best player you can be does not automatically equate to playing for the best team you can. If you prioritize loyalty or living in a certain area or even playing for a club where you can express yourself in the way you enjoy football the most you are setting your own challenges. Is it more laudable to join a club like city or remaining at a lower level for different reasons? (Henrik Larson comes to mind).

Trigger

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Daley Blind interview with Ajax Showtime.

“United still have faith in me. I hear that the club’s high-ups are satisfied with me, and they just want me to keep on working,” he told Ajax Showtime magazine. “There are lots of transfer rumours surrounding United. Five or six players in my position are linked to the club every week, and given my contract situation it’s logical people have written about me leaving.

“Jose Mourinho gave me over 30 matches in his first year in charge, which not everyone had expected. He stated his faith in me, and I have done my best to reward him. I have a great relationship with him. He always involves me with the first team, even though he picks other players.

“That can happen at this level - this is Manchester United, and there is lots of competition for places. It’s down to me to keep working hard, get as many minutes as possible and show what I can do.”

That’s the sort of stuff you want to be hearing from players not involved as much as they want to be.. seems to like Jose too

Mitch Connor

pjohnson wrote: »

Well I wouldn't call Totti or Le Tissier as lacking ambition. Loyalty isn't a bad thing. Uncommon but not bad.

Totally the same thing.

Playing for celtic in Scotland, now, is the sane as staying at one of the biggest clubs in Italy, one of the biggest leagues around, over the course of your career.

I would also say le tiss did lack the ambition to follow through on the potential moves to Chelsea or spurs. He was happy being the maverick genius with little requirement to work his arse off.

You are talking about a guy playing in a 1 team league, where the best he can hope for is to maybe get a decent result in the CL before maybe a decent night in europa league.

Will he be testing himself against quality right wingers? Will he better himself with the experience of all the big games he is going to play in?

If he wants to be the best he can be, he won't do so by stating at celtic for the next 6 years.

Whether it is this summer or next, or to United or some other side, he should move if he wants to become the best player he can become.

yabadabado

pjohnson wrote: »

Well I wouldn't call Totti or Le Tissier as lacking ambition. Loyalty isn't a bad thing. Uncommon but not bad.

I actually would say Le Tiss lacked ambition he could have gotten several moves but was happy to be the main man at a smaller club.No real pressure on him.
Totti was still playing at the very top with one of the biggest clubs in Italy. He won the league and Cup and regular appearances in CL. He could have moved to win more but still a very good career.

spiralism

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Totally the same thing.

Playing for celtic in Scotland, now, is the sane as staying at one of the biggest clubs in Italy, one of the biggest leagues around, over the course of your career.

I would also say le tiss did lack the ambition to follow through on the potential moves to Chelsea or spurs. He was happy being the maverick genius with little requirement to work his arse off.

You are talking about a guy playing in a 1 team league, where the best he can hope for is to maybe get a decent result in the CL before maybe a decent night in europa league.

Will he be testing himself against quality right wingers? Will he better himself with the experience of all the big games he is going to play in?

If he wants to be the best he can be, he won't do so by stating at celtic for the next 6 years.

Whether it is this summer or next, or to United or some other side, he should move if he wants to become the best player he can become.

Even if he wanted to go If he stuck around for say, 3 more years he would be in with a good shot of getting Celtic to a record ten in a row. He'd go down in the club's history as a legendary player and would probably be captain around then. Loads of time left if he even went then, he'd only be 23.

If it was about money, he'd already have ****ed off to a midtable side in the prem. He's a boyhood fan of the club, grew up in Glasgow supporting Celtic. Could genuinely see him doing a Totti on it.

Either way, i don't see him as a realistic target any time soon. Not with 6 years left on his deal and him not in any way angling for a move. Not like his career is going too badly right now, he's captained his national team at 20.

bangkok

De gea nominated for pfa player of the year.

paulbok

Looks like a win tomorrow will wrap up a top 4 finish

paulbok

paulbok wrote: »

Looks like a win tomorrow will wrap up a top 4 finish

Sorry

paulbok

paulbok wrote: »

Sorry

Conte will never know the debt he owes you. But we know paulbok, we know

One for TheDoc

https://twitter.com/Priya8Ramesh/status/985199678059958277

"Memphis is one of only 4 players so far, in the top 5 European leagues with double figures for goals (14) and assists (11) this season, along with Messi (29G 12A), Neymar (19G 13A), and Florian Thauvin (16G 10A)."

hufpc8w3adnk65

It’s the French league. Even Ballotelli looked good there over there

J. Marston

Don't suppose this Spurs will show up next week.

pjohnson

MrMac84 wrote: »

It’s the French league. Even Ballotelli looked good there over there

Even Thauvin looks good there.

hufpc8w3adnk65

J. Marston wrote: »

Don't suppose this Spurs will show up next week.

No way

J. Marston

Only thing that interests me now in the league is De Gea hopefully winning the golden glove award.

Lord TSC

4 ahead of Spurs with a game in hand, anyway. Should be 7 by tomorrow.

1 ahead of Pool with 2 in hand, so should be 7 ahead of them soon too.

It's crazy to think we're 11 ahead of the league title holders, with a game in hand.

And 17 ahead of Arsenal.

jayo26

Lord TSC wrote: »

4 ahead of Spurs with a game in hand, anyway. Should be 7 by tomorrow.

1 ahead of Pool with 2 in hand, so should be 7 ahead of them soon too.

It's crazy to think we're 11 ahead of the league title holders, with a game in hand.

And 17 ahead of Arsenal.

And we could still win the league on goal difference

Lithium93_

Score predictions for tomorrow afternoon?

Comfortable victory or grinding one out?

hufpc8w3adnk65

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Score predictions for tomorrow afternoon?

Comfortable victory or grinding one out?

3-0... scrappy 25 mins Sanchez and Pogback to link up. Fancy Johnny Evans for an OG too

Cantona's Collars

Harry Maguire is the latest CB linked with United.
The Mirror.

Trigger

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Harry Maguire is the latest CB linked with United.
The Mirror.

He seems to get linked every couple of weeks, then it goes silent again.. think he is good for where he is, not sure he would make the step up. Don't think he is better than what we already have there anyways

jayo26

I think we have enough centerbacks of McGuire level if we are going to upgrade centerbacks it should be a top class centerbacks on an international level.

brinty

astradave wrote:

He seems to get linked every couple of weeks, then it goes silent again.. think he is good for where he is, not sure he would make the step up. Don't think he is better than what we already have there anyways

jayo26 wrote:

I think we have enough centerbacks of McGuire level if we are going to upgrade centerbacks it should be a top class centerbacks on an international level.

Maybe the thought is a younger English and home based player to replace Jones or Smalling going out the door

jayo26

brinty wrote: »

Maybe the thought is a younger English and home based player to replace Jones or Smalling going out the door

Never mind talking sense I sent you a pm do what I told you to do and stay quiet.

He is certainly not afraid to bring the ball out from the back, now I haven't seen much of him this year but I wouldnt say no once its after a new cm or 2 a right sided attacking player and a new lb and rb

POKERKING

Deleted User wrote: »

One for TheDoc

https://twitter.com/Priya8Ramesh/status/985199678059958277

"Memphis is one of only 4 players so far, in the top 5 European leagues with double figures for goals (14) and assists (11) this season, along with Messi (29G 12A), Neymar (19G 13A), and Florian Thauvin (16G 10A)."

Sterling?

Trigger

POKERKING wrote: »

Sterling?

And Salah, I don’t think the tweeter really fact checked..

TitianGerm

astradave wrote: »

And Salah, I don’t think the tweeter really fact checked..

I think it's league stats? Salah only has 9 assists.

Trigger

TitianGerm wrote: »

I think it's league stats? Salah only has 9 assists.

Ten according to Transfermarkt.. Erikson has 10 and 10 after last night but don’t know if the one Kane robbed is included..

Edit: Salah has 10 on the PL website too

TitianGerm

astradave wrote: »

Ten according to Transfermarkt.. Erikson has 10 and 10 but don’t know if the one Kane robbed is included..

I was looking at Squawka but maybe that didn't include yesterday's games?

Trigger

TitianGerm wrote: »

I was looking at Squawka but maybe that didn't include yesterday's games?

Neither does transfermarkt, Salah didn’t have an assist yesterday anyways

Here ya go https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mohamed-salah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/148455/saison/2017/wettbewerb/GB1/verein/31

TitianGerm

astradave wrote: »

Neither does transfermarkt

Here ya go https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mohamed-salah/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/148455/saison/2017/wettbewerb/GB1/verein/31

The PL site is only showing 9 for me but 10 for you... What's going on :pac:

Trigger

TitianGerm wrote: »

The PL site is only showing 9 for me but 10 for you... What's going on :pac:

Under team play https://www.premierleague.com/players/5178/Mohamed-Salah/stats

Edit: Just realised that that’s total so probably includes his time at Chelsea, maybe where we are getting mixed up.. wonder which one the PL didn’t attribute to him that transfermarkt did

Cantona's Collars

Predictions for today?

I'm hoping we see United cut loose and get a convincing win. 4-0.

pjohnson

astradave wrote: »

Under team play https://www.premierleague.com/players/5178/Mohamed-Salah/stats

Edit: Just realised that that’s total so probably includes his time at Chelsea, maybe where we are getting mixed up.. wonder which one the PL didn’t attribute to him that transfermarkt did

Could transfermarkt be like FPL where players are given an assist if they are fouled for a penalty?

Cantona's Collars

Zlatan with the winner on his full debut for LA Galaxy.

Cantona's Collars

MEN with the squad seen at The Lowry.

Confirmed United squad members.

Goalkeepers: David de Gea, Joel Pereira, Kieran O'Hara

Defenders: Antonio Valencia, Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Victor Lindelof, Marcos Rojo, Ashley Young

Midfielders: Ander Herrera, Scott McTominay, Nemanja Matic, Paul Pogba

jayo26

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

MEN with the squad seen at The Lowry.

Confirmed United squad members.

Goalkeepers: David de Gea, Joel Pereira, Kieran O'Hara

Defenders: Antonio Valencia, Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Victor Lindelof, Marcos Rojo, Ashley Young

Midfielders: Ander Herrera, Scott McTominay, Nemanja Matic, Paul Pogba

That is taking parking the bus to another level he hasn't named any attackers in the squad let alone starting team.

pjohnson

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

MEN with the squad seen at The Lowry.

Confirmed United squad members.

Goalkeepers: David de Gea, Joel Pereira, Kieran O'Hara

Defenders: Antonio Valencia, Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Victor Lindelof, Marcos Rojo, Ashley Young

Midfielders: Ander Herrera, Scott McTominay, Nemanja Matic, Paul Pogba

McTominay upfront with Pogba in the midfield 3.

jayo26

Here is the proper un****ed up version

Confirmed United squad members

Goalkeepers: David de Gea, Joel Pereira, Kieran O'Hara

Defenders: Antonio Valencia, Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Victor Lindelof, Marcos Rojo, Ashley Young

Midfielders: Ander Herrera, Scott McTominay, Nemanja Matic, Paul Pogba

Forwards: Alexis Sanchez, Juan Mata, Jesse Lingard, Marcus Rashford, Anthony Martial, Romelu Lukaku

pjohnson

jayo26 wrote: »

Here is the proper un****ed up version

Confirmed United squad members

Goalkeepers: David de Gea, Joel Pereira, Kieran O'Hara

Defenders: Antonio Valencia, Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Victor Lindelof, Marcos Rojo, Ashley Young

Midfielders: Ander Herrera, Scott McTominay, Nemanja Matic, Paul Pogba

Forwards: Alexis Sanchez, Juan Mata, Jesse Lingard, Marcus Rashford, Anthony Martial, Romelu Lukaku

Fcuk it. If I dont get a 6-3-1 led by McTominay I'll be devastated.

Lord TSC

Am I right in saying a loss for West Brom today means they can only stay up if Swansea lose all their remaining games, AND West brom overturn the 7 goal difference?

nullzero

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Predictions for today?

I'm hoping we see United cut loose and get a convincing win. 4-0.

Dreamt last night we drew 0-0, hopefully your prediction is the more accurate.

spiralism

Lord TSC wrote: »

Am I right in saying a loss for West Brom today means they can only stay up if Swansea lose all their remaining games, AND West brom overturn the 7 goal difference?

Yep. Swansea would have a game more to play as well.