Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt. 2

deaddonkey15

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

And are the only team in the league without an away point in 2018.

I'm well aware of that. That's why I referred to their home games. I didn't make any reference to Arsenal whatsoever until another poster - who would probably post nothing at all if he couldn't post straw man arguments - did.

Royal Legend

Quandary wrote: »

The atmosphere was very poor in old Trafford too. We need to do something to change it into a cauldron that puts fear into the visiting teams. Make them feel unwelcome.

Let's see....

Just an idea, but we could start throwing bottles and other such missiles at the visiting team bus as they make their way into the stadium.

It might just be the spark we need to beat the likes of the mighty West Brom.

Or maybe you could use an old tactic of the 70's. throw darts into the opposition end, smash a few trains up, you may have forgotten you were no angels in the past and some would say at present either.

limnam

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

You're not slow in coming out with your own usual nonsense either. In fairness though, Arsenal usually spank teams like West Brom at home.

and might qualify for that second rate trophy you dislike so much.

Mr.H

Lithium93_ wrote:

Mansplaining, now there's a word I NEVER EVER thought I'd see mentioned in a football thread..

Will I Am Not wrote:

Eh no. Someone said Liverpool would have beaten West Brom 5-0 at Anfield so he said Liverpool drew 0-0 with West Brom at Anfield. Understand now? Sorry about the mansplaining.

I see. Yea Liverpool were rubbish against west Brom to be fair. In fact they always have a good game against the top sides. If only west Brom could play every week the way they do against the top sides they would be class.

Gonna make mansplaining our thing on the soccer forums lol

PhlegmyMoses

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I'm well aware of that. That's why I referred to their home games. I didn't make any reference to Arsenal whatsoever until another poster - who would probably post nothing at all if he couldn't post straw man arguments - did.

To be fair, your first post is a shocker and you are well aware that that is going to wind up fans after just watching a tough result. You know what you are doing, so spare us all the poor me stuff. You are one of the most culpable in how toxic this thread gets when things don't go our way.

limnam

Mr.H wrote: »

No. But he tried to excuse a rubbish display by comparing it to a result Liverpool had against the same competition.

No.

I can break it down for you though.

Someone claimed Liverpool would have beaten them 5-0

When the fact is Liverpool drew with them at home.

I hope there's nothing overly complicated above and we can continue

pjohnson

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

To be fair, your first post is a shocker and you are well aware that that is going to wind up fans after just watching a tough result. You know what you are doing, so spare us all the poor me stuff. You are one of the most culpable in how toxic this thread gets when things don't go our way.

He relishes these moments really. Much less vocal if we win.

Mr.H

limnam wrote:

I hope there's nothing overly complicated above and we can continue

Ah now. There is no need for the bitchy comment.

You could go one further and mention that Liverpool were knocked out of the fa cup by west Brom at anfield...

pjohnson

Mr.H wrote: »

Ah now. There is no need for the bitchy comment.

You could go one further and mention that Liverpool were knocked out of the fa cup by west Brom at anfield...

I'm sure that its somehow Mourinho's fault ye lost at Anfield don't worry. He also caused the rain in the second half.

how.gareth

Anyhow on a more positive note it’s actually a sickener to win the league without playing imo. Celebrations will be a wee bit forced in their next game (insert cluching at straws gif here)

Lithium93_

**** result at the end of the day, sure it stings knowing it's handed them crowd the League Title, but such is football.

No doubt everyone will be back with pitchforks if it goes sideways against Bournemouth on Wednesday evening..

FutureGuy

Will I Am Not wrote: »

Eh no. Someone said Liverpool would have beaten West Brom 5-0 at Anfield so he said Liverpool drew 0-0 with West Brom at Anfield. Understand now? Sorry about the mansplaining.

Yeah that was me. That was in December and WBA have been woeful in 2018. Liverpool play superb football and hockey teams like this. Today, against that team, Liverpool would have murdered them.

Beat...

Bournemouth 3-0
Watford 5-0
Newcastle 2-0
West Ham 4-1
Huddersfield 3-0
City 4-3
Seansea 5-0
Bournemouth 4-0
Brighton 5-1
Stoke 3-0
Southampton 3-0
West Ham 4-1 again.
Huddersfield 3-0 again

That’s a sample.

Scoring 7 in Europe. Twice.

Remember we used to do this to teams?

Liverpool now have a CB they needed and will be getting the midfielder they need.

But I’m sure we will be fiinnnnne.

Mr.H

pjohnson wrote:

I'm sure that its somehow Mourinho's fault ye lost at Anfield don't worry.

We were probably watching a video of ye play west Brom to prepare but accidentally fell asleep.

But yea deflect the United "performances" to Liverpool...............

No outside excuses and certainly not on officiating, just making an observation and one which doesn't absolve the players for the other 90+ minutes of the game...

That penalty decision in the first half with Herrera was the game-changer, or bit of luck this group of players clearly need. Had that been awarded and converted, we might have went on to score a few more as the momentum was going our way at that point.

But in the words of Gennaro Gattuso, "If my uncle had 3 balls he would be a pinball machine". We got a bit of good luck against City last weekend with some decisions and the bounce of a ball (Smalling offside for his goal, City hitting the woodwork twice at 2-3) but we can't be relying on luck going our way to win games. Certainly not at home against the bottom team in the league.

West Brom were very good defensively, their 'bus' was a formidable one. Still, with the attacking talent we had out there today their bus shouldn't have been a problem. Over the course of 90 minutes, those players should have found a way. Especially since the manager clearly sent them out with an intent and freedom to play the ball quickly and often. They succeeded in this for about the first 35 minutes of the game then it disintegrated.

The players should be ashamed of themselves today. However, I found Jose's CM substitutions mildly unhelpful. The team needed a pacey addition like was said in here at half-time, Pogba needed to go by the time he did because he was poor and veering close to a second yellow. I can't help but feel that Jose could have ticked two of those boxes with the one substitution at half-time, Lingard for Pogba. Especially since Pogba's withdrawal came so soon into the second half. Seeing out the game with one specialist CM and £250m+ of attacking talent on the field was quite risky. Still though, the players lost that game today and not Jose's subs.

One more thing - I've been a fan of Martial and his 'potential' for quite a while now. I think he was unlucky that Sanchez came in (and Martial disappeared from the team) just as Martial had scored in 3 consecutive games and was having a solid season so far. However he/his agent can shut the fúck up once his performances are like that today. For the kind of guff that was reported during the week, he needs to be coming on and making a contribution which will turn the game around for us. Otherwise, he should realise that he isn't the finished product and doesn't deserve to be a regular starter yet. I'd far rather see his performances do the talking than his agent.

limnam

Mr.H wrote: »

Ah now. There is no need for the bitchy comment.

You could go one further and mention that Liverpool were knocked out of the fa cup by west Brom at anfield...

To be told it's a different competition and blah blah.

deaddonkey15

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

To be fair, your first post is a shocker and you are well aware that that is going to wind up fans after just watching a tough result. You know what you are doing, so spare us all the poor me stuff. You are one of the most culpable in how toxic this thread gets when things don't go our way.

What poor me stuff?

My first post was designed to highlight the nonsense argument that some have put forward about City spending 30% more than us and how that somehow explains why they are miles ahead of us in the league. The reason we are so far behind City is because we drop stupid points against very beatable teams like West Brom, Stoke, Southampton, Huddersfield, and Newcastle. When anyone suggests that the manager of the club might be somewhat responsible for that and cite Pep as an example of a coach that has developed a system to maximise his players potential, we are usually given the "spent more money" "started with a stronger base" argument in an effort to dismiss any criticism of Jose. Well that result and performance today has nothing to do with what Pep has spent or the strength of the side he inherited. It's everything to do with a coach that has brought little in the way of an attacking philosophy to the club and just seems to throw players at the problem as evident in his tactics today and his transfer of Sanchez in January.

I disagree that I am to blame for this thread getting toxic when we lose. On the contrary rather, anything myself or someone like Bangkok posts here in the wake of a defeat usually makes us a target for people to let off their anger.

deaddonkey15

pjohnson wrote: »

He relishes these moments really. Much less vocal if we win.

More nonsense from you.

Mr.H

limnam wrote:

To be told it's a different competition and blah blah.

Full strength side. Doesnt matter anyway. I hate that rubbish of Liverpool fans using "but United......" when excusing a bad display. Grow the **** up I say. Would Ferguson have wanted to excuse that display by comparing it to what Liverpool coups have done?

Its man united!

limnam

Mr.H wrote: »

Full strength side. Doesnt matter anyway. I hate that rubbish of Liverpool fans using "but United......" when excusing a bad display. Grow the **** up I say. Would Ferguson have wanted to excuse that display by comparing it to what Liverpool coups have done?

Its man united!

You continue to miss the point. But never mind.

Crack on talking about something no one else is talking about.

pjohnson

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

More nonsense from you.

Of course. Only yourself and Bangkok are right.


Hopefully this match will be the final straw for Pogba. We cut out this nonsense of switching to 4-3-3 to "free" him. We'd be idiots to rely on him. Maybe our attack is sh1t because our 90m "world class" playmaker couldn't bother his arsé trying. Valencia and Young may be limited but you are guaranteed they will give their all. A good player not bothering is far worse than a limited player busting his bolløcks.

Do you honestly think Jose tells Pogba not to bother trying? And encourages him to do pirouettes in the middle of the pitch surrounded by WBA players? To stand stock still looking around him? Do you think Jose told Matic to assist Dawson? Do you think Jose tells Alexis to stay outside the box after cutting inside when Lukaku is about to cross the ball in?

Footballers should have a brain. Any player should be able to realise and adapt to a situation. The way you go on after a defeat just sounds like you think Jose is playing FIFA controlling every single individual decision every single player makes.

MagicIRL

Could be worse lads...

At least you didn't spend your Sunday sitting in the cold and pissing rain of Manchester to watch that ****e live.

limnam

pjohnson wrote: »

Of course. Only yourself and Bangkok are right.

You just don't seem to get it.

The donkey and bankok saw these problems nearly two years ago.

You're just not listening/reading.

shane.

Do the players realise there’s a cup semi final next week?

pjohnson

shane. wrote: »

Do the players realise there’s a cup semi final next week?

Better question is do they care, and the answer is probably not.

limnam

shane. wrote: »

Do the players realise there’s a cup semi final next week?

Looks like they were "resting" for it :pac:

Econ_

Where are United going with Mourinho?

Sure he has substantially improved things; he won two trophies in his first season and will comfortably finish in the top 4 this season

But where are you going with him? Can you see much of an improvement on the horizon next season?

The football you've been served up under him hasn't been classic Mourinho.

Mourinho's old teams were physically strong with an effective and functional style. But, critically, they were also consistent and they often had an aura about them - particularly in home games.

Mourinho's teams remain strong and functional but now lack the other attributes that made his teams special - probably because he can't force this generation of players to unquestionably obey his orders to sweat blood for him in the way he could in years gone by.

The choice is that you can give Mourinho another few hundred million that will only incrementally improve performance and results

OR

Take a risk. Sack him and bring in an younger manager with an exciting, modern and proactive style. A manager that will allow Pogba, Martial, Sanchez etc. to be part of a free flowing, attractive and attack-minded team. A manager that will at least project you towards having a style comparable to the excitability of Barca, Madrid, Liverpool or City.

It's not that Mourinho is terrible. It's that United can, and should aim for better.

limnam

Econ_ wrote: »

Where are United going with Mourinho?

Sure he has substantially improved things; he won two trophies in his first season and will comfortably finish in the top 4 this season

But where are you going with him? Can you see much of an improvement on the horizon next season?

The football you've been served up under him hasn't been classic Mourinho.

Mourinho's old teams were physically strong with an effective and functional style. But, critically, they were also consistent and they often had an aura about them - particularly in home games.

Mourinho's teams remain strong and functional but now lack the other attributes that made his teams special - probably because he can't force this generation of players to unquestionably obey his orders to sweat blood for him in the way he could in years gone by.

The choice is that you can give Mourinho another few hundred million that will only incrementally improve performance and results

OR

Take a risk. Sack him and bring in an younger manager with an exciting, modern and proactive style. A manager that will allow Pogba, Martial, Sanchez etc. to be part of a free flowing, attractive and attack-minded team. A manager that will at least project you towards having a style comparable to the excitability of Barca, Madrid, Liverpool or City.

It's not that Mourinho is terrible. It's that United can, and should aim for better.

Do we really have to go through this every single time there's a bad result?

Whatsisname

MagicIRL wrote: »

Could be worse lads...

At least you didn't spend your Sunday sitting in the cold and pissing rain of Manchester to watch that ****e live.

I considered getting tickets for the game today but even living here, I'm just not very pushed on watching that live. It's bad enough on a stream.

shane.

Econ_ wrote: »

Where are United going with Mourinho?

Sure he has substantially improved things; he won two trophies in his first season and will comfortably finish in the top 4 this season

But where are you going with him? Can you see much of an improvement on the horizon next season?

The football you've been served up under him hasn't been classic Mourinho.

Mourinho's old teams were physically strong with an effective and functional style. But, critically, they were also consistent and they often had an aura about them - particularly in home games.

Mourinho's teams remain strong and functional but now lack the other attributes that made his teams special - probably because he can't force this generation of players to unquestionably obey his orders to sweat blood for him in the way he could in years gone by.

The choice is that you can give Mourinho another few hundred million that will only incrementally improve performance and results

OR

Take a risk. Sack him and bring in an younger manager with an exciting, modern and proactive style. A manager that will allow Pogba, Martial, Sanchez etc. to be part of a free flowing, attractive and attack-minded team. A manager that will at least project you towards having a style comparable to the excitability of Barca, Madrid, Liverpool or City.

It's not that Mourinho is terrible. It's that United can, and should aim for better.

pochettino

shane.

limnam wrote: »

Do we really have to go through this every single time there's a bad result?

Yep!

deaddonkey15

pjohnson wrote: »

Of course. Only yourself and Bangkok are right.

We're right more often than you and your buddies would like to acknowledge.

pjohnson wrote: »

Hopefully this match will be the final straw for Pogba. We cut out this nonsense of switching to 4-3-3 to "free" him. We'd be idiots to rely on him. Maybe our attack is sh1t because our 90m "world class" playmaker couldn't bother his arsé trying. Valencia and Young may be limited but you are guaranteed they will give their all. A good player not bothering is far worse than a limited player busting his bolløcks.

Do you honestly think Jose tells Pogba not to bother trying? And encourages him to do pirouettes in the middle of the pitch surrounded by WBA players? To stand stock still looking around him? Do you think Jose told Matic to assist Dawson? Do you think Jose tells Alexis to stay outside the box after cutting inside when Lukaku is about to cross the ball in?

Footballers should have a brain. Any player should be able to realise and adapt to a situation. The way you go on after a defeat just sounds like you think Jose is playing FIFA controlling every single individual decision every single player makes.

No I don't think Jose tells those players to do those things. But he did buy all of them. Do you think the fact that players like Mkhitaryan, Pogba, Sanchez who have been excellent players at other clubs, as well as the likes Martial and Rashford who have been regarded as 2 of the most exciting young attacking talents in Europe under van Gaal of all people, all collectively being disappointing over the course of a season has nothing to do with the man that's managing them?

Mr.H

limnam wrote:

You continue to miss the point. But never mind.

Not missing the point. I am saying your point is stupid

limnam

Mr.H wrote: »

Not missing the point. I am saying your point is stupid

I guess the breaking down was overly complicated.

You can't say we didn't try.

jayo26

If all else fails lads just go ahead and insult each other.

Mr.H

limnam wrote:

I guess the breaking down was overly complicated.

You continue to talk through your arse buddy.

I completely understood the point and then said the point was ridiculous. There was no point in going on about how Liverpool would have won the game 5-0 because the proof is there that they didn't. Not only that but they lost with a full strength side in the cup at home also......

Not only did I back up your ridiculous point but you somehow misinterpret the fact I was on your side through your tears. Your picking a fight out of nowhere.

Stay classy kid

pjohnson

jayo26 wrote: »

If all else fails lads just go ahead and insult each other.

That sounds like what Mourinho would say. Hes got to you JayoPrime hasn't he?

Muahahaha

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

What poor me stuff?

My first post was designed to highlight the nonsense argument that some have put forward about City spending 30% more than us and how that somehow explains why they are miles ahead of us in the league. The reason we are so far behind City is because we drop stupid points against very beatable teams like West Brom, Stoke, Southampton, Huddersfield, and Newcastle. When anyone suggests that the manager of the club might be somewhat responsible for that and cite Pep as an example of a coach that has developed a system to maximise his players potential, we are usually given the "spent more money" "started with a stronger base" argument in an effort to dismiss any criticism of Jose. Well that result and performance today has nothing to do with what Pep has spent or the strength of the side he inherited. It's everything to do with a coach that has brought little in the way of an attacking philosophy to the club and just seems to throw players at the problem as evident in his tactics today and his transfer of Sanchez in January.

I disagree that I am to blame for this thread getting toxic when we lose. On the contrary rather, anything myself or someone like Bangkok posts here in the wake of a defeat usually makes us a target for people to let off their anger.

I think that is a solid point. Some people say that City spending 30% more is a reason for them topping the league. It is not, it is an excuse. City have spent way more than Liverpool yet Liverpool have beaten them three times this season, scoring 9 goals along the way. For sure transfer spends are important but there comes a point where the law of diminishing marginal returns comes into play and the difference between a squad that cost £400m and one that cost £500m is not all that much. So saying City spent 30% more than United is nothing more than an excuse really. Last weeks win over them proves that, its on the players and manager if they could not use that as a platform to be motivated for todays game.

Will I Am Not

Mr.H wrote: »

You continue to talk through your arse buddy.

I completely understood the point and then said the point was ridiculous. There was no point in going on about how Liverpool would have won the game 5-0 because the proof is there that they didn't. Not only that but they lost with a full strength side in the cup at home also......

Not only did I back up your ridiculous point but you somehow misinterpret the fact I was on your side through your tears. Your picking a fight out of nowhere.

Stay classy kid

You picked it up wrong, admit your mistake and move on.

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

If all else fails lads just go ahead and insult each other.

like stringerbell just did and then left the thread?

Lord TSC

limnam wrote: »

Do we really have to go through this every single time there's a bad result?

The fact is there's people who will never like Jose. That's not to say there aren't criticisms of Jose that are valid. My personal gripe would be how frustrating it is how many people there are who post once a week when we win and post 20 times an hour after we lose.

I was pissed after the Sevilla gave, and said I didn't have the heart to defend Jose.

But I don't put he majority of blame on tactics today.

The reality is that when Pogba has an off game (which is more often than not), then there is zero creativity from defensive or midfield. That's not a tactics or coaching problem. It's a player problem. Couple that with the fact that Martial and Mata are also prone to dreadful games, and you get games like today.

Jose or not, there's a issue with the squad that still exists. I expect it to be sorted this summer properly, or I'll be on board e Jose out train. But I've long since accepted that we will have games like today until we replace those players.

If I'm honest, based on the squad, based on the football we play, I think Jose has been overachieving and doing a stellar job. He's drilled these games out of them mostly. Under LVG, they were every week. Last year, they were once every third game. Now it's once every seven or eight. Just expect it to be eradicated next year....

Mr.H

Will I Am Not wrote:

You picked it up wrong, admit your mistake and move on.

I did pick it up wrong at the start. you pointed it out and I admitted I got it wrong. I then went on to talk about it not being a good argument to male anyway.

I admitted it before this kid started picking a fight

bangkok

pjohnson wrote: »

Of course. Only yourself and Bangkok are right.


Hopefully this match will be the final straw for Pogba. We cut out this nonsense of switching to 4-3-3 to "free" him. We'd be idiots to rely on him. Maybe our attack is sh1t because our 90m "world class" playmaker couldn't bother his arsé trying. Valencia and Young may be limited but you are guaranteed they will give their all. A good player not bothering is far worse than a limited player busting his bolløcks.

Do you honestly think Jose tells Pogba not to bother trying? And encourages him to do pirouettes in the middle of the pitch surrounded by WBA players? To stand stock still looking around him? Do you think Jose told Matic to assist Dawson? Do you think Jose tells Alexis to stay outside the box after cutting inside when Lukaku is about to cross the ball in?

Footballers should have a brain. Any player should be able to realise and adapt to a situation. The way you go on after a defeat just sounds like you think Jose is playing FIFA controlling every single individual decision every single player makes.

he didnt say that and no we are not always right but when we are we get called City supporters, Liverpool supporters and the likes.

Even after the game today when someone said didnt liverpool only draw with WBA and i said we can only dream of playing like liverpool, someone says sure why dont you go and support them!

The_Kew_Tour

You can live under a cloud if people want to, but that was one stinking performance.

A totally unacceptable shift from certain players.

pjohnson

Lord TSC wrote: »

The fact is there's people who will never like Jose. That's not to say there aren't criticisms of Jose that are valid. My personal gripe would be how frustrating it is how many people there are who post once a week when we win and post 20 times an hour after we lose.

I was pissed after the Sevilla gave, and said I didn't have the heart to defend Jose.

But I don't put he majority of blame on tactics today.

The reality is that when Pogba has an off game (which is more often than not), then there is zero creativity from defensive or midfield. That's not a tactics or coaching problem. It's a player problem. Couple that with the fact that Martial and Mata are also prone to dreadful games, and you get games like today.

Jose or not, there's a issue with the squad that still exists. I expect it to be sorted this summer properly, or I'll be on board e Jose out train. But I've long since accepted that we will have games like today until we replace those players.

If I'm honest, based on the squad, based on the football we play, I think Jose has been overachieving and doing a stellar job. He's drilled these games out of them mostly. Under LVG, they were every week. Last year, they were once every third game. Now it's once every seven or eight. Just expect it to be eradicated next year....

Nail on the head imo. He was immense in dragging us to victory against City. He couldn't tell his arsè from his elbow today and didn't want to break a sweat. We need a truly consistent playmaker to have a consistent attack. That wont be Pogba we need to stop pretending he will ever be consistent. Unless people think Jose is telling him to amble lightly around.

xtal191

limnam wrote: »

Didn't liverpool draw nil all at home to wba?

Yeah and West Brom knocked them out of the FA Cup, not that any of that really matters

Son0vagun

limnam wrote: »

Do we really have to go through this every single time there's a bad result?

He makes a fair point, and it’s not just bad results, it’s bad performances. Mourinho just hasn’t brought UTD to the next level, and he has managed to destroy “The Man UTD Way” with his negative tactics, UTD fans are in denial about this. Also he just doesn’t draw in the big signings anymore.

I know he wouldn’t go to UTD in a million years but you’d do a lot worst then the tried and tested Benitez. He’s doing an amazing job at Newcastle, and would no doubtedly bring back the Utd way.

martingriff

Lord TSC wrote: »

The fact is there's people who will never like Jose. That's not to say there aren't criticisms of Jose that are valid. My personal gripe would be how frustrating it is how many people there are who post once a week when we win and post 20 times an hour after we lose.

I was pissed after the Sevilla gave, and said I didn't have the heart to defend Jose.

But I don't put he majority of blame on tactics today.

The reality is that when Pogba has an off game (which is more often than not), then there is zero creativity from defensive or midfield. That's not a tactics or coaching problem. It's a player problem. Couple that with the fact that Martial and Mata are also prone to dreadful games, and you get games like today.

Jose or not, there's a issue with the squad that still exists. I expect it to be sorted this summer properly, or I'll be on board e Jose out train. But I've long since accepted that we will have games like today until we replace those players.

If I'm honest, based on the squad, based on the football we play, I think Jose has been overachieving and doing a stellar job. He's drilled these games out of them mostly. Under LVG, they were every week. Last year, they were once every third game. Now it's once every seven or eight. Just expect it to be eradicated next year....

It is if you keep him on or do nothing about it Are there not 9 other outfield players

Econ_

Lord TSC wrote: »

But I don't put he majority of blame on tactics today.

The reality is that when Pogba has an off game (which is more often than not), then there is zero creativity from defensive or midfield. That's not a tactics or coaching problem. It's a player problem.

Assuming your hypothesis is correct (I don’t think it is) then that is a coaching problem.

If you a construct a team that is so reliant on one player, that when that player is unavailable or out of form the team falls apart - that is a coaching failure.

Take De Bruyne our of City’s team. Do they fall apart?

Countinho was taken out of Liverpool’s team? Did they fall apart?

paulbok

Son0vagun wrote: »

He makes a fair point, and it’s not just bad results, it’s bad performances. Mourinho just hasn’t brought UTD to the next level, and he has managed to destroy “The Man UTD Way” with his negative tactics, UTD fans are in denial about this. Also he just doesn’t draw in the big signings anymore.

I know he wouldn’t go to UTD in a million years but you’d do a lot worst then the tried and tested Benitez. He’s doing an amazing job at Newcastle, and would no doubtedly bring back the Utd way.

Oh sweet devine Jesus.

shane.

Son0vagun wrote: »

He makes a fair point, and it’s not just bad results, it’s bad performances. Mourinho just hasn’t brought UTD to the next level, and he has managed to destroy “The Man UTD Way” with his negative tactics, UTD fans are in denial about this. Also he just doesn’t draw in the big signings anymore.

I know he wouldn’t go to UTD in a million years but you’d do a lot worst then the tried and tested Benitez. He’s doing an amazing job at Newcastle, and would no doubtedly bring back the Utd way.

Sure dalglish is free at the moment, was great in the 80’s