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So Patrick street is bus only from Thursday 9th August

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    #332
    Frostybrew
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Frostybrew


    Zico ! wrote: »
    This decision is a poor one my business on patrick street is way down over it -these gombeens in city hall havent a clue.Every customer coming in is moaning about it.

    Which business?


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    #333
    Zico !
    Registered Users Posts: 959 ✭✭✭Zico !


    Frostybrew wrote: »
    Which business?

    Where do you work tell us ?


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    #334
    the beer revolu
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    Zico's isn't on St. Patrick's Street!


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    #335
    Zico !
    Registered Users Posts: 959 ✭✭✭Zico !


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Zico's isn't on St. Patrick's Street!

    :p


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    #336
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    This is hilarious. Many people on this thread have been moaning that you have to drive right to your work place in the city centre because of the torrential continuous rain in Cork and that walking/bus simply isn't an option but it's grand for kids who live in the city to get some open space. :pac:
    As hilarious as you moaning about a 2km walk :D


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    #337
    [Deleted User]
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    Frostybrew wrote: »
    Which business?

    Busker I reckon.


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    #338
    Frostybrew
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Frostybrew


    Augeo wrote: »
    Busker I reckon.

    Time for some new tunes.


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    #339
    cgcsb
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    How long does it take the moaning to stop usually on such projects in Cork? Usually in Dublin it's the day after implementation. Are there any posters here would pass through on a bus around this time? notice any improvement in the service?


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    #340
    Frostybrew
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Frostybrew


    cgcsb wrote: »
    How long does it take the moaning to stop usually on such projects in Cork? Usually in Dublin it's the day after implementation. Are there any posters here would pass through on a bus around this time? notice any improvement in the service?

    Generally a few years. Though I haven't heard anyone complaining about trucks avoiding the Glanmire bypass for some time now, so at least that's something.


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    #341
    Sonics2k
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    Zico ! wrote: »
    This decision is a poor one my business on patrick street is way down over it -these gombeens in city hall havent a clue.Every customer coming in is moaning about it.

    But it's only the street, it's not as if your customers could park on that street last month? They still have all the multi-story car parks around.

    This is just bog standard people moaning about change.


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    #342
    flexcon
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    Sonics2k wrote: »
    But it's only the street, it's not as if your customers could park on that street last month? They still have all the multi-story car parks around.

    This is just bog standard people moaning about change.

    Yeah this is the point I can't understand. You couldn't park on Patrick street anyway? Maybe roughly 20 loading bay spaces mixed with taxi ranks? You couldn't park on these spaces before 6.30 anyway right?


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    #343
    macraignil
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    flexcon wrote: »
    Yeah this is the point I can't understand. You couldn't park on Patrick street anyway? Maybe roughly 20 loading bay spaces mixed with taxi ranks? You couldn't park on these spaces before 6.30 anyway right?

    It used to be possible to collect someone who was shopping on Patrick Street after finishing work. I've done that a number of times in the past but now it's illegal.


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    #344
    fin12
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    Sonics2k wrote: »
    But it's only the street, it's not as if your customers could park on that street last month? They still have all the multi-story car parks around.

    This is just bog standard people moaning about change.

    It will affect the customers because they will all get pissed off with the extra traffic and not bother going in, I’ve often aborted trips around the city cause the traffic was unbearable.


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    #345
    fin12
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    With all the extra traffic going down there by Dealz and corn market street, wouldn’t be surprised if someone gets knocked down there, it’s very dangerous. People just walk across without even looking.


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    #346
    namloc1980
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    fin12 wrote: »
    With all the extra traffic going down there by Dealz and corn market street, wouldn’t be surprised if someone gets knocked down there, it’s very dangerous. People just walk across without even looking.

    It's a pedestrian priority zone. Everyone needs to be aware but priority is for pedestrians there.


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    #347
    namloc1980
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    macraignil wrote: »
    It used to be possible to collect someone who was shopping on Patrick Street after finishing work. I've done that a number of times in the past but now it's illegal.

    Can they not literally walk 2 minutes to somewhere else: South Mall, Emmet Place, Grand Parade etc?


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    #348
    macraignil
    Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭macraignil


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Can they not literally walk 2 minutes to somewhere else: South Mall, Emmet Place, Grand Parade etc?

    According to Zico that's not the experience of many of the retailers along the street with trade down since the change. Not sure myself why they'd want to stay trading there and pay the exorbitant rates charges to the city council that clearly doesn't value their opinion. Sure people could walk with their shopping to somewhere else to get collected but it's just another reason to just give up on Patrick Street and go to one of the shopping malls that popped up in delightful places like Blackpool and Mahon.


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    #349
    the beer revolu
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Can they not literally walk 2 minutes to somewhere else: South Mall, Emmet Place, Grand Parade etc?

    No. It's always pissing down with rain.


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    #350
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    macraignil wrote: »
    According to Zico that's not the experience of many of the retailers along the street with trade down since the change. Not sure myself why they'd want to stay trading there and pay the exorbitant rates charges to the city council that clearly doesn't value their opinion. Sure people could walk with their shopping to somewhere else to get collected but it's just another reason to just give up on Patrick Street and go to one of the shopping malls that popped up in delightful places like Blackpool and Mahon.

    Met a few shoppers i know around town and each one was positive about the changes especially to the experience on Patrick Street. There was an extensive consultation period last year before this came into effect. The council originally proposed closing the street from 12-6.30 but following consultation changed it to 3-6.30. To say their opinion wasn't valued is not true.


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    #351
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    No. It's always pissing down with rain.

    Of course. I was lucky on my commute this morning and evening that it was dry. Rare occurrence apparently.


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    #352
    macraignil
    Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭macraignil


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Met a few shoppers i know around town and each one was positive about the changes especially to the experience on Patrick Street. There was an extensive consultation period last year before this came into effect. The council originally proposed closing the street from 12-6.30 but following consultation changed it to 3-6.30. To say their opinion wasn't valued is not true.

    Someone told me this restricted time road closure was just going to be a preparation phase for banning cars from the street altogether. Hope that's not true.

    Working for the last few years in the city centre and most of the surrounding streets to my workplace have been changes to a very inconvenient one way system that's unpopular with everyone I've spoken to about the situation. Not sure who the city council is consulting with but I hope they respond to the gridlock they are creating and find some solutions.


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    #353
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    macraignil wrote: »
    Someone told me this restricted time road closure was just going to be a preparation phase for banning cars from the street altogether. Hope that's not true.

    Working for the last few years in the city centre and most of the surrounding streets to my workplace have been changes to a very inconvenient one way system that's unpopular with everyone I've spoken to about the situation. Not sure who the city council is consulting with but I hope they respond to the gridlock they are creating and find some solutions.

    Problem is people don't complain or make their voices heard during consultation periods but then when changes happen the moaning begins. For instance there was a two month consultation period on the proposed bridge between merchants quay and Patrick's Quay..... Number of submission were zero, nada, none. Guaranteed people will be moaning when works begin though.

    What streets were recently changed to 1 way system?


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    #354
    fin12
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Problem is people don't complain or make their voices heard during consultation periods but then when changes happen the moaning begins. For instance there was a two month consultation period on the proposed bridge between merchants quay and Patrick's Quay..... Number of submission were zero, nada, none. Guaranteed people will be moaning when works begin though.

    What streets were recently changed to 1 way system?

    Grattan street.


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    #355
    macraignil
    Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭macraignil


    fin12 wrote: »
    Grattan street.

    The quay from Grattan Street to the N22 as well. I think it's labeled R847. Broad lane was also a handy way to avoid traffic but the direction was reversed to make it useless. I think there are more as well but it seems to be a new one is being changed every week and I'm not sure which ones are due to the road resurfacing and which ones are permanent.


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    #356
    grogi
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    macraignil wrote: »
    Someone told me this restricted time road closure was just going to be a preparation phase for banning cars from the street altogether. Hope that's not true.

    It should be done from the start. People would get used to the change much faster.


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    #357
    macraignil
    Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭macraignil


    grogi wrote: »
    It should be done from the start. People would get used to the change much faster.

    What change do you mean, the retailers being forced out of Patrick Street or commuters getting even more gridlocked on the remaining routes?


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    #358
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    macraignil wrote: »
    What change do you mean, the retailers being forced out of Patrick Street or commuters getting even more gridlocked on the remaining routes?

    Ridiculous hyperbole to be honest. Can you tell us of one retailer who has been "forced" out of Patrick Street in the last 2 weeks? Any comment on the traffic this evening which was fine and moving well. No gridlock today.


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    #359
    nostro
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭nostro


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Ridiculous hyperbole to be honest. Can you tell us of one retailer who has been "forced" out of Patrick Street
    Owner of a Chinese restaurant on the Echo saying he would be forced out of business if cars can't drive up Patrick Street and park outside his place while they are collecting their take away Chinese meals.


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    #360
    macraignil
    Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭macraignil


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Ridiculous hyperbole to be honest. Can you tell us of one retailer who has been "forced" out of Patrick Street in the last 2 weeks? Any comment on the traffic this evening which was fine and moving well. No gridlock today.

    I was replying to the suggestion that Patrick street should be completely closed to cars at all times which I would think would persuade quite a few retailers to reconsider trading there.

    Schools are still off so sticking with my opinion evening gridlock will get worse when the Easter holidays are over.


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    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,294 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    nostro wrote: »
    Owner of a Chinese restaurant on the Echo saying he would be forced out of business if cars can't drive up Patrick Street and park outside his place while they are collecting their take away Chinese meals.

    Where do these cars park up on Patrick Street when they're collecting their food? Zero spaces outside that restaurant unless they are parking illegally in loading bays or bus stops so I'm curious to know where they park?


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