***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

colm_mcm wrote: »

I’m getting VRT of €1085
Stat code 46989097
September 09 reg date.

That stat code brings it up as an SE Lux model but she's not a Lux. Just SE sadly

Even at that, it it was €1085, it's not that bad for that car is it ?

What do you make of it overall ?

ELM327

FYI: STop getting VRT quotes for the same car, they have been known to notice and increase the OMSP

colm_mcm

I think that’s ryanair you’re thinking of

James Bond Junior

I wouldn't.. I run a Volvo with similar mileage and the suspension is in bits and getting very expensive.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I wouldn't.. I run a Volvo with similar mileage and the suspension is in bits and getting very expensive.

Just looking through it's previous MOTs and it does look like the rear coil springs were corroded but were changed.

S60 wouldn't be far off a V70 at all. Has it been bad ?

ELM327

colm_mcm wrote: »

I think that’s ryanair you’re thinking of

Different shower of robbin barstewards there

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Lads. Can I get an opinion on this please ?

http://www.woburnautos.co.uk/used-cars/volvo-v70-2-4-d-se-geartronic-5dr-milton-keynes-201903065606578

Is that too much milage for this car ? I'm feeling it's a tad high but from the description seems solid.............

165k miles isn't high for a 10 year old diesel.
You're off your tree importing the likes of that IMO.
Minimal if any savings once the flight, ferry, time etc is factored in.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Augeo wrote: »

165k miles isn't high for a 10 year old diesel.
You're off your tree importing the likes of that IMO.

Any reason why it's a bad import ?

To be honest I like the car, though to find a decent one here. It's not something I'd be fussed about selling in future either. More drive it into the ground idea here...

The only half decent one I see here is a 10TS one but your man has it down for trade sale, sold as seen pretty much so I don't exactly trust it

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Any reason why it's a bad import ?.....

Apologies, I edited to add more detail.
You've the risk of buying miles (a flight away) away, the thing might not be to your liking once you view it. And the savings are minimal if any.

A lad I know went over to save €3k (his calcs) on a 2016 baby Jag and the thing was a sh1tter ...... ended up coming back a day later then planned on a flight without the car rather then on the ferry with the car. Now, he's a total gnome but still.......could happen to anyone.

You're effectively buying this trade sale in the UK as the warranty is worth SFA to you
Trade sale here means they aren't retailing it and likely won't sell to a private buyer, same car will get an oil change and a bad valet and be retailed from a portocabin dealer somewhere with a 3 month engine and box warranty.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Augeo wrote: »

Apologies, I edited to add more detail.
You've the risk of buying miles (a flight away) away, the thing might not be to your liking once you view it. And the savings are minimal if any.

A lad I know went over to save €3k (his calcs) on a 2016 baby Jag and the thing was a sh1tter ...... ended up coming back a day later then planned on a flight without the car rather then on the ferry with the car. Now, he's a total gnome but still.......could happen to anyone.

You're effectively buying this trade sale in the UK as the warranty is worth SFA to you
Trade sale here means they aren't retailing it and likely won't sell to a private buyer, same car will get an oil change and a bad valet and be retailed from a portocabin dealer somewhere with a 3 month engine and box warranty.

I understand what you are saying about buying in UK 100% and do agree with you it can be hit or miss. Also warranty wise I like to see a dealer offer the warranty than one who doesn't because it means they are willing to stand over it, which I would hope !

In regards V70's here. There's one there for just under 5K and that's your man selling as trade, also tax on it is 1,200 a year for the engine it is

After that one the next cheapest auto V70 is over 10K

But I'm not gonna be saying I'm saving a fortune buying in UK , it just seems to be availabiltiy at the moment for one

A flight being about 70 euros, ferry back (I get staff rates for Irish ferries thankfully) and a drop of diesel and a day I would aim to do it in.

If it turned out to be a scrapper then sure a flight back and keep looking.

a great feature of the UK cars is the ability to read over the previous MOTs which is nice. I notice this one hasn't had any major issues , very minor stuff bar suspension coil at the back.

But anymore feedback I'll take, I'm on the fence about it at the moment still but if I do decide to go for it it'll be hopefully this weekend

I'd not let the mileage bother me anyway

colm_mcm

I was looking at these before too - and depending on budget and actual requirement for load space, a V60 should be considered too. They also have a 2.0 5 cylinder option as well as 2.4

R.O.R

I'd hold out for a D5 version rather than the 2.4d. Same engine, but the 2.4d is 170bhp ish and single turbo - D5 is twin turbo with over 200bhp.

Never driven a 2.4d - probably more than adequate, but you'd always be left with the nagging feeling that you settled for the cheaper alternative. Think the Co2 emissions were the same between them - just the 2.4d was cheaper to buy.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

R.O.R wrote: »

I'd hold out for a D5 version rather than the 2.4d. Same engine, but the 2.4d is 170bhp ish and single turbo - D5 is twin turbo with over 200bhp.

Never driven a 2.4d - probably more than adequate, but you'd always be left with the nagging feeling that you settled for the cheaper alternative. Think the Co2 emissions were the same between them - just the 2.4d was cheaper to buy.

I do see where you are coming from but I do have to take insurance into account also. I'm not sure they'd be happy with me having a twin turbo over 200bhp when they aren't even happy with the 5 series at the moment 2.0D

The 2.4D is actually giving me a good reduction in insurance

R.O.R

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I do see where you are coming from but I do have to take insurance into account also. I'm not sure they'd be happy with me having a twin turbo over 200bhp when they aren't even happy with the 5 series at the moment 2.0D

The 2.4D is actually giving me a good reduction in insurance

Worth checking if there's any difference between a 2.4d and a D5 for insurance. I'd say it's the Volvo V70 making it cheaper than a 5 Series, as only sensible people drive Volvo's, and all sorts of scum drive BMW's :P

James Bond Junior

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Just looking through it's previous MOTs and it does look like the rear coil springs were corroded but were changed.

S60 wouldn't be far off a V70 at all. Has it been bad ?

It hasn't been bad per se but it has given a fair few issues. Parts are often dealer only and what is spurious is expensive (and thats with a family in the motor parts business) The 2.4 is very heavy on diesel too. I've enjoyed owning it but I would have changed a year ago only I knew i was emigrating. TBH it has felt like it will give up any moment for that whole year but it has stayed going to be fair. I think the engines are very strong and actually outlast the car itself but I wouldn't buy one again in a huge hurry.

selous

tossy wrote: »

What did he replace it with ?

10 yr old Merc....spotless.

(sorry for delay)

Gwynplaine

Just a quick question. If I buy a car this week, and tax is out since 4-19, do i have to pay the arrears for May on it?

Sexual Chocolate

No. Only from this month

CIP4

Anyway of checking online when a cars tax is expiring if you have the reg ?

Toyotafanboi

Go to place an ad on carsireland and it auto populates the tax expiry box when you enter the reg.

vintagevrs

Family member has a 3 series touring that lost power recently. Local mechanic says turbo is gone. Also recommending chain gets done as it's rattling as well as some other bit that I'm not sure about. Anyway, quote for all this is 3300, and a quick done deal search tells me that if his car is working it's worth 5k. He's gonna get it repaired and drive it on, but I'm not sure if that's the right thing to do. Surely a 3300 bill on a 5k car means he should scrap it? His thought is get it fixed, drive it for another year then move on.

Does that sound reasonable too?

bazz26

3300 is fair chunk of change to be investing in it if he only plans on keeping for another year. If he was keeping it longer term I'd tend to spend the money on it but otherwise that 3300 might be better invested towards a newer car. I'd tend to cut it loose as is if only keeping it for such a short time or if spending that sort of money then keep it for the long haul. If he is hell bent on fixing it then maybe worth looking into reducing that 3300 bill by fitting a second hand turbo instead of a reconditioned one to see him through the next 12 months? Chain can also be replaced for around 1000 to 1200 on average these days so worth pricing the job elsewhere too.

If I were spending that sort of money on it then I'd be keeping it a good bit longer than 12 months to get some value from that outlay.

If it's worth 5k working now it'll be worth guts of that in a year too (working).

jimgoose

I don't know when exactly I turned into an econodiesel nut, but this thing is amazing:

colm_mcm

What’s that, some sort of Ford?

jimgoose

jimgoose wrote: »

I don't know when exactly I turned into an econodiesel nut, but this thing is amazing:.........

It's very, very good to be fair.
Best I've seen has been 55mpg from a Fabia 1.4 tdi & a Octavia 1.6 5SM diesel combi.
A Focus 1.5 diesel (model after yours) I got 50mpg from.

Tazzimus

Think I'm just shy of 50 on the Mazda, which is decent given the car and how it's driven.
I could probably crack 50 if I drove it easier and that, but that's no fun.

tossy

This is about as good as it gets for me..

Wailin

^^^ Golf GTI/R?

Just won Bank of Ireland's competition on Boards, for free motor/home insurance (to a max of €500). Hooray. I finally get some good motoring news.

I don't think €500 would cover my insurance for a year, but im already with BOI so it'll be a nice chunk towards it anyway

punisher5112

Weird thing is I was taking it easy since I got the Mégane....

Found out doing 126km/h I'm getting better fuel economy then when I had it at 114 to 118km/h...

Getting 5.3l/100km

tossy

Wailin wrote: »

^^^ Golf GTI/R?

It's an R,spot on.

jimgoose

colm_mcm wrote: »

What’s that, some sort of Ford?

2011 Focus Mk. II Style 1.6 TDCi 110.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Pff please....

Truckermal

That's a Scania!

CIP4

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Pff please....

I love the way it is set to display 2 decimal place precision because when your burning 29 liters of diesel per 100km it’s important to know about the .16 L/hr. Most cars seem to be be 1 decimal place which seems best.

fancy pigeon

Howyis, I'm somewhat still about piss all has changed, you could say this is a post of filler. A lot has changed in the background though



Avensis to be shipped on soon, with a new clutch. I'll put it on here when it's ready. High miles, few marks on the body etc bah I'll write it up some other time



Right g'luck, back to my hiatus

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Just a quick VRT question for you boys and girls


If one was to import a 2008 car into Ireland, is the choice still there to tax it on engine size or emissions or do they decide for you ?


Edit: gone off the V70 I was looking at because close inspections of the images show a bit of wear and tear as well as marks / dents on body and interior.

So I was looking at the SE Lux model a year older but 50K less miles , bit more money but spotless. Only kick is it omits 195g/km so on emissions tax it's €1,200 or engine size €1,080

Dont know if I should but I really like the car. The Lux is right up my street and the one I found on autotrader is a beaut in my eyes !

James Bond Junior

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Just a quick VRT question for you boys and girls


If one was to import a 2008 car into Ireland, is the choice still there to tax it on engine size or emissions or do they decide for you ?


Edit: gone off the V70 I was looking at because close inspections of the images show a bit of wear and tear as well as marks / dents on body and interior.

So I was looking at the SE Lux model a year older but 50K less miles , bit more money but spotless. Only kick is it omits 195g/km so on emissions tax it's €1,200 or engine size €1,080

Dont know if I should but I really like the car. The Lux is right up my street and the one I found on autotrader is a beaut in my eyes !

Linky?

RobTheLad

This happened to a friend of mine earlier - car just shot up in flames. Waiting to hear back whether he had the recall done or not. 2014 520d

Duke O Smiley

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Just a quick VRT question for you boys and girls


If one was to import a 2008 car into Ireland, is the choice still there to tax it on engine size or emissions or do they decide for you ?

I don’t think that choice was ever there. If it was registered Jan-June 08 it’s cc, and c02 thereafter

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Linky?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201902124866046?advertising-location=at_cars&transmission=Automatic&year-from=2008&price-to=5000&postcode=bt11aa&model=V70&page=1&make=VOLVO&co2-emissions-cars=TO_200&fuel-type=Diesel&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used

bazz26

It was. Irish cars first registered between Jan 1 2008 and June 30th 2008 were put on whichever system was lower afaik. I think with imports they automatically go on the co2 system these days.

bazz26

Looking at the MOT history site that V70 only did 10,000 miles between March 2016 and February 2019.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

bazz26 wrote: »

Looking at the MOT history site that V70 only did 10,000 miles between March 2016 and February 2019.

Good find

Professionally clocked or just not used.... ? That's interesting none the less

Reading the discription he's standing on it saying 110000 warrented miles + full history

bazz26

Have a look here yourself with the UK reg: https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

The MOT advisories show mostly tyre conditions and if the same owner owned it during that time period then it could be genuine and just a case of not much driving done. I'd be checking into the service history which the garage mentions is fully documented to correlate with mileage.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

bazz26 wrote: »

Have a look here yourself with the UK reg: https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

The MOT advisories show mostly tyre conditions and if the same owner owned it during that time period then it could be genuine and just a case of not much driving done. I'd be checking into the service history which the garage mentions is fully documented to correlate with mileage.

I did see that indeed ! 2 owners from new but possibly the second owner kept the milage down well with the computer or geniune just didn't drive it.

But I imagine if they kept it down for MOT they would for service records too.

It's difficult to tell tbh. But I'm inclined to say it's legit because it hasn't done much in a few years and also the overall condition is very good but it is a risk !

CIP4

Started car shopping hard to take some of the trade in offers though I thought I was being realistic in what my own car was worth but can’t even get close to that figure. It’s not even the money it’s more the principle of the fact they are completely low balling and would probably take it in give it a wash and throw it on the forecourt with 5k added onto the price.

Plus a lot of dealers seem to have this that’s the price take it or leave it attitude which I haven’t experienced before really.

colm_mcm

Should’ve got a diesel, you’d be eaten alive for it