***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

I can see where you're coming from CIP4.... A GTi is essentially and of course obviously a top spec Golf. No surprise it's not quite ticking all the boxes for you.

CIP4

Augeo wrote: »

I can see where you're coming from CIP4.... A GTi is essentially and of course obviously a top spec Golf. No surprise it's not quite ticking all the boxes for you.

Tbh the main thing I dislike on the Golf is the Auto gearbox. I never owned an auto car before and I just find it far less engaging. I have always enjoyed Manuals. Even last night was driving the Leon and it just reminded me I miss the manual gearbox. I know you can use the paddles and all that but it’s just not the same at all.

I know that’s quite unusual as most people that go Auto never go back and wonder how they ever survived without one. If I spent my days sitting in Dublin traffic I am sure I would have a different view on it.

The gti I had for a weekend was manual.....i really don't think it'd rock your boat either. .... It's still a you know what.

liamog

Leonard Hofstadter wrote: »

I never understood how or why it was decided that we would do it differently in Europe

I think it comes down to what is sometimes referred to as the MPG illusion.
Which one of these has the best increase in fuel efficiency?

A) 10.3 mpg car vs 11.3 mpg
17.1 mpg car vs 20.2 mpg
C) 35.3 mpg car vs 51.4 mpg

It's a trick question, over 10,000 miles they all save about 88 gallons.

Whereas expressing them as l/100km comes up as

A) 27.5 l/100km vs 25 l/100km
16.5 l/100km vs 14 l/100km
C) 8 l/100km vs 5.5 l/100km

Making it clear that each choice saves around 2.5l per 100km.
They wanted consumers to think about the fuel they would save when comparing two cars instead of the distance they could go using that fuel.

James Bond Junior

CIP4 wrote: »

Ah no not really :pac:

As bad as I am I think changing it after 4 months would be excessive to say the least. Was just curious about the F30 engine set up.

We have a 420d back in Ireland currently sitting up not being driven. If you interested I'll swap the you the GTI. ; )

Interslice

CIP4 wrote: »

Tbh the main thing I dislike on the Golf is the Auto gearbox. I never owned an auto car before and I just find it far less engaging. I have always enjoyed Manuals. Even last night was driving the Leon and it just reminded me I miss the manual gearbox. I know you can use the paddles and all that but it’s just not the same at all.

I know that’s quite unusual as most people that go Auto never go back and wonder how they ever survived without one. If I spent my days sitting in Dublin traffic I am sure I would have a different view on it.

100%. I can kinda see why people like golfs as a good all rounder but the auto box craic would put me off one. Auto for me you would have to be talking minimum something like a 530d or and A6 3.0 tdi diesel cruiser.

Interslice

See the report into the criminal organisations that we are legally obliged to pay money to is nearly out. Be interesting to see does anyone do time or will we all get free insurance for a few years. Ha... Knowing this country the fat fuchs in suits will laugh it off and look after each other. Charitable donations to the rsa and early retirement with pension. Finish their glittering careers on the board of the rsa, SIMI,Irish water and topaz for the 2 for 1 heist jackpot.

PsychoPete

Anyone recommendations for a good quality engine paint ?

Wibbs

Any of the high temperature paints you can get in a motor factors I'd imagine PP. Back in the day with mates of mine customising or building race cars that's what they used anyway.

ba_barabus

Had my first experience of paintless dent removal today........why isn't this more common.

I'm slowly doing a running resto on my Renault 19 and want to avoid a full respray so I decided to see how much I could save of the original paint. Turns out pretty much all of it. I've now got a dent free car, some of which I thought would be impossible to sort this way.

The roof and bonnet will have to be resprayed but that's pretty much it. Result. :cool:

SCOOP 64

How much per panel ?

ba_barabus

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

How much per panel ?

About €80.

No experience of these things but there were several dents some of which I was skeptical could be sorted. Turns out I was wrong.

PsychoPete

I had it done on three cars, the first fella I got to do a bmw he went to drill a hole inside the door and the door jam to get a tool in but I wasnt having holes drilled in the car. Another fella done without any drilling

Toyotafanboi

It depends where the dent is and the type of car.

Any time I've seen holes drilled, they are usually in discreet areas and finished with touch up paint and a snug grommet.

Not ideal but a fair compromise to avoid a panel full of filler.

JJJJNR

Rant incoming..So long story long was quoted 1k euros of work on my car by a main dealer as it was in for a gearbox oil change as its not a empty and refil job and asked them to give it a once over as i just picked it up a week prior . work required two wishbones, two CV boots, rear shock..plus labour ..thought it was fishy as it just came from a main dealer with fsh. so subsequently booked the car in for an early nct for a second opinion (55 euro well spent) and all that is wrong with it from the NCT test was the two CV boots needing replacement because they were cut/freyed, possibly not a million miles to think it was cut by them..the dodgy dealers.

Not going to name and shame but might leave a review on their google page or should I just put it down as a lucky escape.

ba_barabus

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

It depends where the dent is and the type of car.

Any time I've seen holes drilled, they are usually in discreet areas and finished with touch up paint and a snug grommet.

Not ideal but a fair compromise to avoid a panel full of filler.

Only one panel may have required that, I'll check tomorrow but I doubt it did. Luckily I've a spare in the shed if I ever need it!

ba_barabus

JJJJNR wrote: »

Rant incoming..So long story long was quoted 1k euros of work on my car by a main dealer as it was in for a gearbox oil change as its not a empty and refil job and asked them to give it a once over as i just picked it up a week prior . work required two wishbones, two CV boots, rear shock..plus labour ..thought it was fishy as it just came from a main dealer with fsh. so subsequently booked the car in for an early nct for a second opinion (55 euro well spent) and all that is wrong with it from the NCT test was the two CV boots needing replacement because they were cut/freyed, possibly not a million miles to think it was cut by them..the dodgy dealers.

Not going to name and shame but might leave a review on their google page or should I just put it down as a lucky escape.

Hmmmmm, firstly the main dealer may be working by manufacturer tolerances which may require work sooner or the independent was talking ****e.........or vice versa. It's difficult to tell, either or both could be wrong.

JJJJNR

It was the NCT test but yeah I suppose it could have 25% life left and still pass.

PsychoPete

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

It depends where the dent is and the type of car.

Any time I've seen holes drilled, they are usually in discreet areas and finished with touch up paint and a snug grommet.

Not ideal but a fair compromise to avoid a panel full of filler.

I completely get that but it would just annoy me knowing that they were there

Toyotafanboi

JJJJNR wrote: »

Rant incoming..So long story long was quoted 1k euros of work on my car by a main dealer as it was in for a gearbox oil change as its not a empty and refil job and asked them to give it a once over as i just picked it up a week prior . work required two wishbones, two CV boots, rear shock..plus labour ..thought it was fishy as it just came from a main dealer with fsh. so subsequently booked the car in for an early nct for a second opinion (55 euro well spent) and all that is wrong with it from the NCT test was the two CV boots needing replacement because they were cut/freyed, possibly not a million miles to think it was cut by them..the dodgy dealers.

Not going to name and shame but might leave a review on their google page or should I just put it down as a lucky escape.

The NCT is a minimum safety standard inspection. A dealer will be pointing out things that are legitimately worn, but the NCT wint fail you until they are critical.

Are you suggesting the dealer cut your CV boots

ba_barabus

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Are you suggesting the dealer cut your CV boots

I might be lucky in my experience of main dealers and being fair independents but this has never been an issue.

As you say, the NCT is a minimum standard, dealers may have a different one.

PsychoPete

I hated those customers that came out with ''sure it passed the nct". Remember a woman dropped a car in for a service, found a few problems and one was a cracked coil spring. Explained to the woman, she was having none of it cause it passed the test and we were only trying to rip her off. A few days later the aa tow it in with a broken coil spring

ba_barabus

PsychoPete wrote: »

I hated those customers that came out with ''sure it passed the nct".

I remember a colleague asked me to do a check of her car prior to it's NCT. I pointed out the tyres were beyond dangerous as they were thread bear. She told me they passed the NCT last time........:eek:

JJJJNR

Cop on there's no way a car passed an NCT with a cracked spring.

PsychoPete

JJJJNR wrote: »

Cop on there's no way a car passed an NCT with a cracked spring.

Never said the spring was cracked when it went through the test but it was cracked when I working on it 3 weeks later

JJJJNR

Well she's an idiot then, but looking at the fail sheet again with regards to the front axle and it's no where near the failing limits.

ba_barabus

JJJJNR wrote: »

Well she's an idiot then, but looking at the fail sheet again with regards to the front axle and it's no where near the failing limits.

AS said, manufacturer tolerences could be a lot stricter. I've seen cars with failed shocks on both sides pass NCT with perfect results.

JJJJNR

Ok no panic and appreciate it l just didn't want to get ripped off, coming from a DIY background where I fixed mostly everything myself when it broke, for the best part of 10 years, I probably have a bit of a readjustment to do. Im more than happy to put the trust in the dealer based on the different tolerences a dealer would put on parts to keep it in top condition, apologies for the rant.

ba_barabus

JJJJNR wrote: »

apologies for the rant.

No need

ofcork

Trying to book nct there as want to go early and the closet cork centres have no dates til January must be very busy.

jprboy

ofcork wrote: »

Trying to book nct there as want to go early and the closet cork centres have no dates til January must be very busy.

Wouldn't be using any Cork centres but what I've done in the past is log on to the NCT website circa 23.30 - 0.00 at night and finding appointment times in the near future that have been freed up due to cancellations and they seem to appear update the system at that time. Might be worth a try.

PsychoPete

jprboy wrote: »

Wouldn't be using any Cork centres but what I've done in the past is log on to the NCT website circa 23.30 - 0.00 at night and finding appointment times in the near future that have been freed up due to cancellations and they seem to appear up the system at that time. Might be worth a try.

I do it between 8 and 9 in the morning, normally get a test date within the week

JJJJNR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T45FTZlEi_4

TVR in for some work a while ago at a mates garage while I was there, some machine, epic sound track.

JJJJNR

JJJJNR wrote: »

Well she's an idiot then, but looking at the fail sheet again with regards to the front axle and it's no where near the failing limits.

The nct criteria is the imbalance between shock absorbers on the same axle. That & a visual that there's no leaking shock etc.
It's not a challenge to pass.

The main dealers test/inspection on shock absorbers wear would be very subjective I reckon..... Could even be age/mileage based advice but not in your case as they have reckoned it's just one shock worn.....but they should of course be replaced in pairs.

Wishbones are again subjective. NCT will fail on excessive play on a lever test.....

blade1

Augeo wrote: »

The nct criteria is the imbalance between shock absorbers on the same axle. That & a visual that there's no leaking shock etc.
It's not a challenge to pass.

The main dealers test/inspection on shock absorbers wear would be very subjective I reckon..... Could even be age/mileage based advice but not in your case as they have reckoned it's just one shock worn.....but they should of course be replaced in pairs.

Wishbones are again subjective. NCT will fail on excessive play on a lever test.....

Reminds me of the time I was getting tires fitted and your man tells me I need 2 new shocks.
This after I fitting new shocks myself 2 weeks prior.
He tried to justify his statement by saying they look bad because they were dirty.
I said "go way out of it ya clown".

CIP4

Lads if a Gardai made the comment ‘If I had a speed gun to confirm the speed you were doing you would be put off the road’

Can anyone make sense of that is it not still just a fine and 3 points for speeding these days or can they do you for something else that would be a straight disqualification. In terms of the speed it would of been doing ~50kmh in a 30kmh zone but outside of town not in a particularly built up area I am fairly sure it was 50kmh up-to recently.

Interslice

CIP4 wrote: »

Lads if a Gardai made the comment ‘If I had a speed gun to confirm the speed you were doing you would be put off the road’

Can anyone make sense of that is it not still just a fine and 3 points for speeding these days or can they do you for something else that would be a straight disqualification. In terms of the speed it would of been doing ~50kmh in a 30kmh zone but outside of town not in a particularly built up area I am fairly sure it was 50kmh up-to recently.

Not for 50 in a 30 zone! If you were drunk, doing 120 on a speedgun with no paperwork on the window then maybe.

He might think you were doing 60 plus..... Double the 30kph. Still off the road talk is OTT but a young lad in a fresh GTi can attract some trash talk from AGS no doubt.

Nothing to worry about.... You wont get a fine or anything

CIP4

Interslice wrote: »

Not for 50 in a 30 zone! If you were drunk, doing 120 on a speedgun with no paperwork on the window then maybe.

Yes that’s what I figured everything else was in order they checked it very carefully if they could have found anything they would. Got drugs tested and breathalysed. It was 3am in the morning. I had the car in sports mode so it was loud enough going up-to them. I was dropping people home. So they just thought loud nice = flying it and acting the clown. The minute they seen the car and my age it was just like oh let’s go.

Anyway could of been worse I suppose.

CIP4

Augeo wrote: »

He might think you were doing 60 plus..... Double the 30kph. Still off the road talk is OTT but a young lad in a fresh GTi can attract some trash talk from AGS no doubt.

Nothing to worry about.... You wont get a fine or anything

Oh yes that’s it. There was two of them. Probably didn’t help when I let down the window they immediately seen a stamp for a nightclub on my hand. I was 20 minutes pulled in nearly killed them to let me go without doing me for something.

But like even if I was doing 60 in a 30 which admittedly is quite excessive and they had it on the speed gun they surely couldn’t be like your disqualified from driving what would be the procedure there they would summons you to court or is it still 3 points and a fine. Anywhere you read it’s 3 points and a fine but then is it like a separate dangerous driving they would try do you for ?

Where they were actually parked and I stopped was in a 50kmh zone a couple of 100 metres up the road was the 30 zone so don’t think they would ever put a speed gun on that road anyway.

tossy

In you still had the A4 he would have waved you by and asked if you'd seen any gougers in your travels ?

CIP4

tossy wrote: »

In you still had the A4 he would have waved you by and asked if you'd seen any gougers in your travels ?

But that’s the sad part of it if I had been in a car that wasn’t loud like a standard petrol / diesel I think they would of waved me through. Even though they didn’t say it, it was definitely the noise they were basing everything on.

tossy

CIP4 wrote: »

But that’s the sad part of it if I had been in a car that wasn’t loud like a standard petrol / diesel I think they would of waved me through. Even though they didn’t say it, it was definitely the noise they were basing everything on.

I'd say your age was against you more than noise. Anyway you were all above aboard and got no hassle.

Tazzimus

CIP4 wrote: »

But that’s the sad part of it if I had been in a car that wasn’t loud like a standard petrol / diesel I think they would of waved me through. Even though they didn’t say it, it was definitely the noise they were basing everything on.

I used to regularly get stopped in the integra for no reason other than young lad in a nice car, comes with having something not normal and boring.

PsychoPete

Tazzimus wrote: »

I used to regularly get stopped in the integra for no reason other than young lad in a nice car, comes with having something not normal and boring.

Likewise but won't lie, a few times it was my own fault

bazz26

CIP4 - a white Golf driving @ 3.am on a Sunday morning full of young lads fits the perfect profile and reason for the AGS to pull you over. Unfortunately its too common young lads in tarted up Golfs, Passats or A4s, etc acting the maggot to impress their mates or birds at that time of the morning, that tarnish everyone else.

As you said, you weren't doing anything wrong, you just fitted the profile. Forget about it and move on.

James Bond Junior

bazz26 wrote: »

CIP4 - a white Golf driving @ 3.am on a Sunday morning full of young lads fits the perfect profile and reason for the AGS to pull you over. Unfortunately its too common young lads in tarted up Golfs, Passats or A4s, etc acting the maggot to impress their mates or birds at that time of the morning, that tarnish everyone else.

As you said, you weren't doing anything wrong, you just fitted the profile. Forget about it and move on.

It also fits the travelling gangs profile too. They love their hot hatches.

Wibbs

Tazzimus wrote: »

I used to regularly get stopped in the integra for no reason other than young lad in a nice car, comes with having something not normal and boring.

I don't because I'm old. :mad::D I never did even when I was younger. My own dad was pulled way more times when he drove my cars. I must look innocent/dopey/harmless.

joujoujou

CIP4 wrote: »

Lads if a Gardai made the comment ‘If I had a speed gun to confirm the speed you were doing you would be put off the road’

Can anyone make sense of that is it not still just a fine and 3 points for speeding these days or can they do you for something else that would be a straight disqualification. In terms of the speed it would of been doing ~50kmh in a 30kmh zone but outside of town not in a particularly built up area I am fairly sure it was 50kmh up-to recently.

Very unlikely to be disqualified solely for doing 50@30. However, in this country cops don't have to have a leg to stand on in terms of accusing you of doing something wrong - if there's a court involved it's your word against theirs, AFAIK.

Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.

joujoujou

Wibbs wrote: »

[...] I must look innocent/dopey/harmless.

Oh yeah, sure.