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***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Slap 2 turbos in them or supercharged..... Powerrrrrrrrr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    CIP4 wrote: »
    Hardly these were pressed metal plates with a Matt finish on a completely standard i30 I wouldn’t call them cool. I thought it might of been the army or something like that.

    Seen a few army Pajeros with those plates, so that's what I would assumed it was


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,499 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Not as ridiculous as a 1.0 in an Octavia

    Octavia is a much lighter car and has the same bhp as the Mondeo 1.6 diesel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Octavia is a much lighter car and has the same bhp as the Mondeo 1.6 diesel.
    Still 1200+kg which is a fair amount for such a tiny engine, even with the turbo.
    Thing the Mondeo is around the 1400kg mark?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,499 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Old 1.4 engine was 75PS, this is 115PS.

    Mondeo 1.6 is 1500kg, an Octavia is 275kg less or 80% the weight of a Mondeo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Old 1.4 engine was 75PS, this is 115PS.

    Mondeo 1.6 is 1500kg, an Octavia is 275kg less or 80% the weight of a Mondeo
    Still prefer a bigger engine in cars that size, I'm not a fan of tiny engines hauling around big cars (even if the Octavia would be classed as somewhere in the middle) can't imagine the engine is having an easy time of it.
    Then again, I'm not a mechanic. Maybe they're perfectly reliable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,541 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    I'm considering buying a brand new car, from a dealer located on the other side of the country, because of availability (I'll get it a couple of months early). Is that a really bad idea? With big brand dealerships (Kia) can you get them serviced in other Kia dealerships, or are there other benefits from shopping very local that would justify an extra few months wait?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,499 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Doesn’t matter which dealer you buy it from, warranty is covered by Kia, and servicing is business for a garage.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Not as ridiculous as a 1.0 in an Octavia

    There were (are?) 1.0l Mondeos also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    I've had enough of this place with RIC and black and tan lovers. I'm moving to Japan to the new city Toyota is planning on building. *joke

    https://www.completecar.ie/car-news/article/9722/Toyota-to-build-new-city-in-Japan

    Mad so this is what Toyota has it's designers working on rather than designing and building their own cars with their own designed engines.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭selectamatic




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    I was joking.

    Ah right I took it to be ya were just joking about the RIC bit


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably been asked before but can’t find it; is there any of the petrol station brands that would tend to have an adblue pump?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,338 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Most of the brands sell adblue at the pump but not all their filling stations sell it. Go onto their websites and they might tell you which branch near you sells it. Other than that you might have to check locally. Normally the filling stations selling it at the pump will display the price of it per litre on their display sign same as diesel, unleaded, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,003 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I'd be mad, right? :p

    https://carzone.ie/used-cars/audi/a8/fpa/201907029632971

    It's very shiny though and I love the interior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I'd be mad, right? :p

    https://carzone.ie/used-cars/audi/a8/fpa/201907029632971

    It's very shiny though and I love the interior.

    I'm not well up on A8s.....

    But I would say - compare what any other A8s are going for.

    See what are common issues on A8.

    Consider what that car is worth to you.

    Have a look at this one and compare to what you have now.

    I wouldnt say "it's mad" necessarily - especially if you are prepared to accept that 100 k cars new still can have 100 k car bills now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,003 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Old diesel wrote: »
    I'm not well up on A8s.....

    But I would say - compare what any other A8s are going for.

    See what are common issues on A8.

    Consider what that car is worth to you.

    Have a look at this one and compare to what you have now.

    I wouldnt say "it's mad" necessarily - especially if you are prepared to accept that 100 k cars new still can have 100 k car bills now.

    I currently have a 2010 A6 3.0 TDI Quattro with just about double the mileage that I figure will have to go in the next year or so anyway as although she's running fine now, insurance and annual NCT requirements will start making it progressively harder to keep.

    (bear with me now while I talk myself out of it :p)

    That A8 does seem to be the cheapest of that spec but it's only a year younger so will face the same challenges soon enough I suppose. Plus 15k is a lot of money for a 9 year old car when my own car is worth maybe 3/4k (per carzone valuation)

    I think something like that may be my next change though as I can't find the same spec in the same budget as I'd have in my current A6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    The 3.0 TDi has a few popular issues, none of which are especially cheap. If you were buying it, you'd want to be buying it with a view to sorting those or at least being conscious that they could be coming around, especially now it has a bit of mileage on it. Coolant leaks from the coolant shut off valve in the V of the engine, oil leaks from the upper sump, timing chain rattles, all of which are fairly large repairs. Nice bus but you'd want to have €2k in reserve at any given time for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,003 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    The 3.0 TDi has a few popular issues, none of which are especially cheap. If you were buying it, you'd want to be buying it with a view to sorting those or at least being conscious that they could be coming around, especially now it has a bit of mileage on it. Coolant leaks from the coolant shut off valve in the V of the engine, oil leaks from the upper sump, timing chain rattles, all of which are fairly large repairs. Nice bus but you'd want to have €2k in reserve at any given time for it.

    Would that not have the same engine as in my own, or is it a revised version?

    My older 05 A6 with the 3.0 had the chain rattle and coolant leak alright but I thought they fixed the former with the face-lift and I've had no engine issues at all with mine.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I'd be mad, right? :p

    .............
    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I currently have a 2010 A6 3.0 TDI Quattro with just about double the mileage that I figure will have to go in the next year or so anyway as although she's running fine now, insurance and annual NCT requirements will start making it progressively harder to keep..................

    I reckon you know it's a non runner really.
    10k+ to go up a year, fair enough the class above and half the mileage but in 12 months time I imagine you'll be like WTF did I do that for.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Most of the brands sell adblue at the pump but not all their filling stations sell it. Go onto their websites and they might tell you which branch near you sells it. Other than that you might have to check locally. Normally the filling stations selling it at the pump will display the price of it per litre on their display sign same as diesel, unleaded, etc.

    Cheers. Maxol are the only ones with a proper search. Only shows a few which means they should be pump ones and not just bottles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,592 ✭✭✭tossy


    Someone badly parked giving out about someone badly parked, I’ve seen it all lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Can some tell me how Toyota can advertise that they have stopped producing diesel passenger cars when surely their deal with BMW for 2.0 diesel engines is only in its infancy or have I missed something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    They're only supplying the engine, BMW are producing the car.
    They're technically correct as it won't have a Toyota badge, at least not one you can see easily anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    They're only supplying the engine, BMW are producing the car.
    They're technically correct as it won't have a Toyota badge, at least not one you can see easily anyway.

    How does that work when BMW are supplying the engine to Toyota???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,499 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Can some tell me how Toyota can advertise that they have stopped producing diesel passenger cars when surely their deal with BMW for 2.0 diesel engines is only in its infancy or have I missed something?

    Which cars are these? I thought the use of BMW diesels was a stopgap til the hybrid range was ready/old models killed off? This is finished now?


    They still do diesel passenger Land Cruisers though which are fairly heavy polluters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    How does that work when BMW are supplying the engine to Toyota???
    Sorry, meant the other way round (I'm on zero sleep)
    It's a stretching of the truth by them, but not entirely false.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Would that not have the same engine as in my own, or is it a revised version?

    My older 05 A6 with the 3.0 had the chain rattle and coolant leak alright but I thought they fixed the former with the face-lift and I've had no engine issues at all with mine.

    They were forever modifying it but it never really nailed it. You'd even see 2017-18 models still suffering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,338 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Toyota's deal to fit BMW diesel engines ended about 2 years ago. The engines they used were the older N47 generation 1.6 and 2.0 engines and didn't make the newer Euro emission tests.


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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can some tell me how Toyota can advertise that they have stopped producing diesel passenger cars when surely their deal with BMW for 2.0 diesel engines is only in its infancy or have I missed something?

    What Toyota passenger car comes with a diesel engine? The Landcruiser?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,499 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Augeo wrote: »
    What Toyota passenger car comes with a diesel engine? The Landcruiser?

    Yep. The Hilux does too, but that’s purely a commercial vehicle (Well supposed to be anyway)

    I suppose there won’t be a Berlingo Multispace equivalent produced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    It's was a bit wild for a while alright
    https://twitter.com/finnan22/status/1216683152414072832

    0118 999 881 999 119 725 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭cadaliac


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Toyota's deal to fit BMW diesel engines ended about 2 years ago. The engines they used were the older N47 generation 1.6 and 2.0 engines and didn't make the newer Euro emission tests.

    Isn't the Supra full of BMW bits too? As in, lots and lots of bits? I never knew BMW supplied Toyota before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    cadaliac wrote: »
    Isn't the Supra full of BMW bits too? As in, lots and lots of bits? I never knew BMW supplied Toyota before.

    They did a deal in exchange for hybrid technology about 3 or 4 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,338 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    cadaliac wrote: »
    Isn't the Supra full of BMW bits too? As in, lots and lots of bits? I never knew BMW supplied Toyota before.

    The Supra is a re-engineered BMW Z4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,338 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's a 12 year old luxobarge with massive annual depreciation and expensive running costs, it's MOT also expired a few days ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    Probably pick one up here much cheaper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sexual Chocolate


    Lads any BMW Indy recommendations around Dublin ? Have a guy who's decent but has an awful habit of putting things on the long finger, he likes to only do small bits at a time. If rather hand the car in and not get it back till it's completely done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,537 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Lads any BMW Indy recommendations around Dublin ? Have a guy who's decent but has an awful habit of putting things on the long finger, he likes to only do small bits at a time. If rather hand the car in and not get it back till it's completely done.

    Motor Confidence off naas road. Top Man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,338 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Motor Confidence near the Naas road gets good praise over on one of the BMW forums. They have a facebook page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    MadYaker wrote: »

    They always have been in the U.K. (going back at least 2 body shapes before that one) at about 6-8 years old onwards. Same for S500 etc. A feature of the market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Regarding Motor Confidence, all I'll say is I'd much rather bring the car to Fionnsport, fair enough I'm from Cork so bringing the car to them is a convenient excuse to catch up with everyone down there, but at the same time, I don't bring a car on a 520 km round trip every time I want something done to it for the craic either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭marcos_94


    Lads any BMW Indy recommendations around Dublin ? Have a guy who's decent but has an awful habit of putting things on the long finger, he likes to only do small bits at a time. If rather hand the car in and not get it back till it's completely done.

    I normally use Gary at Chelmsford Motors in Ranelagh. Guy is a genius and always fits the car in. Have brought the girlfriends mini to Bloomfield motors (Mini specialists who also do BMW) and they were brilliant too


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ............... I don't bring a car on a 520 km round trip every time I want something done to it for the craic either.

    Total non runner for 99% of folk. You are into days off work and overnight stays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Augeo wrote: »
    Total non runner for 99% of folk. You are into days off work and overnight stays.

    People do live outside Dublin. Captainspeed has family there so makes it a trip.

    I used CMC in Limerick and was happy. I also used Alpina and was far from happy. And that was after giving them a second chance after not being happy the first time. Asked for a suspension check and got an all clear. CMC found collapsed rear bushings a month later.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People do live outside Dublin.............

    No doubt.
    That accepted bringing a car on a 520 km round trip for servicing etc is as I said a non runner for 99% of people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Augeo wrote: »
    No doubt.
    That accepted bringing a car on a 520 km round trip for servicing etc is as I said a non runner for 99% of people.

    Agreed but his point was he visits his family at the same time.


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