***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

Midnight_EG

Tazzimus wrote: »

Yep, the Race Series 3 point one. I've had the car a while ha.

It's been dead for the last couple of years after one of Baz's trackdays up in Mondello.

Yeahhhh I remember that, because I remember flipping it and clocking my chin with it.

Dartz

punisher5112 wrote: »

As in cutting it out and replacing?

Yes it wouldn't be allowed but if done right nobody would ever know....

If done as a con job it would be an issue of course.

Wouldn't mine cutting the VIN off my '06 RX8 and putting it on a later R3.


It happens all the time in Aviation. Most 'Warbirds' are newbuilt aircraft - but so long as you have the original maker's plate and loogbooks it still counts as the same plane - like a sort of ship of theseus.



The VIN is the car. Everything else is just parts of it.

Wailin

Having fun up the Sally Gap yesterday.





Came across a few cars stranded, inc a bmw that had no business leaving the driveway, nevermind tackling mountain roads in those conditions.

Tacitus Kilgore

That patrol must have pulled out a fair few cars yesterday.

Is that an xdrive badge on the 5er too?

Wailin

It's an f10 isn't it? So no x-drive if so. Passed an E60 530d also on the military road which had drifts on it further up. Brave lads!

vintagevrs

Suzuki looks great! Problem with xdrive (and the likes) is it gives a false sense of security to the owner, some more so than others. My car is xdrive, but it is still sitting on wide summer tyres. Absolutely terrible in the snow and ice over the last few days. It'll do better than a rwd going up a hill maybe, but braking it's as bad as every other car on the road. Quite scary the other day watching the speed of some cars coming towards me, and when I touched the brakes as lightly as I could I could feel the ABS working.

Wailin

Yes and the problem in those conditions with an automatic is you can't drop a gear and use the engine to slow the car rather than the brakes. Even with the paddles, dropping gears has little affect.

punisher5112

Use to go up there in a Micra.

Had a great laugh and would pass 4x4s stuck and in ditches....

Many cars abandoned....

No chains and no winter tyres but the car just glided along.

Dartz

Best thing about the big snow the other year was rolling past the stuck Range Rovers in my summer-tired RX8

And rings in the carpark.

YbFocus

And the dead arise

bazz26

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cab-targets-drug-dealer-in-series-of-dawn-raids-on-22-properties-in-cork-and-tipperary-981511.html

During today's searches, which are still ongoing, CAB seized:
Six high-powered cars, including a 191 registration Renault Kadjar, 182 registration Kia Sportage, 142 registration Skoda Superb, 171 registration Range Rover, 162 registration Hyundai Santa Fe, 151 registration Volkswagen Passat.
€22,500 in cash;
Two Louis Vuitton bags;
1 Rolex watch

You have to laugh at what is described in the above article as "high-powered" cars these days.

punisher5112

bazz26 wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cab-targets-drug-dealer-in-series-of-dawn-raids-on-22-properties-in-cork-and-tipperary-981511.html

During today's searches, which are still ongoing, CAB seized:
Six high-powered cars, including a 191 registration Renault Kadjar, 182 registration Kia Sportage, 142 registration Skoda Superb, 171 registration Range Rover, 162 registration Hyundai Santa Fe, 151 registration Volkswagen Passat.
€22,500 in cash;
Two Louis Vuitton bags;
1 Rolex watch

You have to laugh at what is described in the above article as "high-powered" cars these days.

Yes it's quite a thing they like to use....

High powered like a Micra....

Tazzimus

bazz26 wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cab-targets-drug-dealer-in-series-of-dawn-raids-on-22-properties-in-cork-and-tipperary-981511.html

During today's searches, which are still ongoing, CAB seized:
Six high-powered cars, including a 191 registration Renault Kadjar, 182 registration Kia Sportage, 142 registration Skoda Superb, 171 registration Range Rover, 162 registration Hyundai Santa Fe, 151 registration Volkswagen Passat.
€22,500 in cash;
Two Louis Vuitton bags;
1 Rolex watch

You have to laugh at what is described in the above article as "high-powered" cars these days.

Unfortunately, some people do actually think they're high powered.

tossy

Tazzimus wrote: »

Unfortunately, some people do actually think they're high powered.

High powered saloon has been to go lazy journalist tag for any car related news involving bad boys for years now.

YbFocus

bazz26 wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cab-targets-drug-dealer-in-series-of-dawn-raids-on-22-properties-in-cork-and-tipperary-981511.html

During today's searches, which are still ongoing, CAB seized:
Six high-powered cars, including a 191 registration Renault Kadjar, 182 registration Kia Sportage, 142 registration Skoda Superb, 171 registration Range Rover, 162 registration Hyundai Santa Fe, 151 registration Volkswagen Passat.
€22,500 in cash;
Two Louis Vuitton bags;
1 Rolex watch

You have to laugh at what is described in the above article as "high-powered" cars these days.

Some people think diesel Passats and Octavias are the fastest cars on earth to be fair in fairness like.

Duke O Smiley

YbFocus wrote: »

And the dead arise

Long time no post! Welcome back

YbFocus

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Long time no post! Welcome back

Said I'd stick the head in and see was I still banned etc!

tossy

YbFocus wrote: »

Some people think diesel Passats and Octavias are the fastest cars on earth to be fair in fairness like.

A guy complemented the R line the other day and asked was it TDI, i said no it's petrol, he couldn't mask his disappointed

YbFocus

tossy wrote: »

A guy complemented the R line the other day and asked was it TDI, i said no it's petrol, he couldn't mask his disappointed

The immaculately perfect Irish motorist.
Boss in work looking at machinery for a 3 mile commute to work mon-fri.

Was recommending a few nice petrol machines, he's set on a diesel Kia Sportage yolk.

Toyotafanboi

Going to try and get my Golf advertised this weekend.

2012, 1.6 daysul, R-Line. 170k, 2 years NCT, full main dealer history, timing belt done, 4 new tyres, new front pads and discs. EGR cooler and injectors have been replaced (common issues on these).

Would I be way out asking €7500 private sale?

CIP4

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Going to try and get my Golf advertised this weekend.

2012, 1.6 daysul, R-Line. 170k, 2 years NCT, full main dealer history, timing belt done, 4 new tyres, new front pads and discs. EGR cooler and injectors have been replaced (common issues on these).

Would I be way out asking €7500 private sale?

I am not sure on the price but sounds like a sellable enough car decent spec with history and a good bit of maintenance work done. Assuming 170k km and not miles.

Toyotafanboi

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Going to try and get my Golf advertised this weekend.

2012, 1.6 daysul, R-Line. 170k, 2 years NCT, full main dealer history, timing belt done, 4 new tyres, new front pads and discs. EGR cooler and injectors have been replaced (common issues on these).

Would I be way out asking €7500 private sale?

Perfectly reasonable asking price for a 2012 r line golf IMO.
The money they command is lunacy :pac:

CIP4

Augeo wrote: »

Perfectly reasonable asking price for a 2012 r line golf IMO.
The money they command is lunacy :pac:

Yes I don’t get why people are willing to give a big premium for a golf they are no different to any of the competitors in that segment.


:pac:

Toyotafanboi

She's a red i, if that helps :pac:

Dartz

YbFocus wrote: »

The immaculately perfect Irish motorist.
Boss in work looking at machinery for a 3 mile commute to work mon-fri.

Was recommending a few nice petrol machines, he's set on a diesel Kia Sportage yolk.

That poor Kia.


And welcome back.


Diesel - I know diesel enthusiasts and it *can* be fun. But not a crawling Kia.

vintagevrs

Thinking of selling my own car too, not sure what to price it at going by others out there.

Here's one that's a year older, and another 40k miles from a trader looking €18k

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-330-d-x-drive-m-sport/22658508

Mines a 141 330d xdrive estate with 96k miles.

Add xenons, genuine 19" wheels with mps4 tyres, m plus pack with bigger brakes, HK audio, pro nav with connected drive, factory tints,genuine m perf kit including lci m perf tail lights, heated electric memory seats, ambient light pack, folding mirrors, electric boot, enhanced Bluetooth and full service history including extra services in my ownership every 10k miles instead of 20k.

DL reg, so knock 5k off for that remember....

Truckermal

For the day that's in it....:D

colm_mcm

You have more Boards notifications than battery %

vintagevrs

Appreciate all the likes , but anyone any idea what would be a reasonable price for a private sale?

MetzgerMeister

vintagevrs wrote: »

Appreciate all the likes , but anyone any idea what would be a reasonable price for a private sale?

23 - 24k maybe?

vintagevrs

vintagevrs wrote: »

Appreciate all the likes , but anyone any idea what would be a reasonable price for a private sale?

Would you be happy with 20k?
You don't have it that long iirc.

Interslice

Would anyone not from DL buy a DL reg car? Maybe sligo or leitrim heads. Such a long spin for a car thats been rallied and abused all its life.


Thats the type of narrowminded stereotype you need to counter to sell it.

Wailin

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

23 - 24k maybe?

Sounds a bit high MM. That's not far off what I'd expect for my own 141 535d in a private sale. I'd say more like 18-19k max.

vintagevrs

MM, 23/24 I would have thought was strong but maybe you're trying not to offend. Low 20s would be sweet for me but still trying to decide whether or not to put it up. I bought it summer 2018 so will be coming up to two years soon enough, not that long TBF.
My idea of changing is being welcomed with strong disapproval when pitched at home here so maybe I'll hold on to it for another while.

Regarding the DL thing, people should really judge a car case by case. DL has a bad rep that all cars are abused/clocked/damaged repaired but it's non sense and narrow-minded to think like that, and that another county reg is immune to the same.
The last 40k miles on my car has been very easy on it, doing 100km a day with cruise on a national road for the main part. 40k miles in stop start traffic in a city would be infinitely worse on many of the components, but sure if not having the L after the D is important to some then hey ho. I worried about this before when buying a new car, and got a D reg to help residuals, and therefore feeding into the whole non sense notion. I wouldn't be arsed with any of it now.

Wailin

Agree on the whole plate nonsense V, pure rubbish. It's coming up on 100k miles as well which is why I suggested that figure. My own has 78k miles and I'd be delighted if I got 25k for it privately.

Are you thinking of a fast petrol motor for a change? Kinda in the same boat myself.

vintagevrs

Yeah small manual hot hatch is in my head. It's hard to try and justify it to anyone without an interest in cars. But bit of variety did no one any harm. Sure it costs nothing to spend hours on autotrader/pistonheads etc and trying to man math different stuff, and if I do nothing for a while I still really like my own motor.


Ahem...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renaultsport-Clio-200-197-Cup-Alien-Green-Recaro-Bilstein-Coilovers-Speedlines-/333490082593

Tacitus Kilgore

Quick one folks, how do you check how many previous owners is on a car again?

GustavoFring

vintagevrs wrote: »

Appreciate all the likes , but anyone any idea what would be a reasonable price for a private sale?

Mine was basic - only extras were the folding mirrors, wheels, brakes and high beam assist. 92k km I think it had on it, rear tyres needed doing and I thought I'd won the lotto getting €22k for it last year. It did have 9 months BMW warranty on it and was just serviced.

You've got a lot more spec, x drive but higher miles. I reckon private sale somewhere around the 20k mark is where it's at. Lovely motor, and looks seriously clean.

<vulture>Do those rear lights fit the saloon?<vulture>

colm_mcm

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Quick one folks, how do you check how many previous owners is on a car again?

Put the reg into carsireland.ie and pretend to sell it.

Tacitus Kilgore

colm_mcm wrote: »

Put the reg into carsireland.ie and pretend to sell it.

Cheers Colm

vintagevrs

GustavoFring wrote: »

Mine was basic - only extras were the folding mirrors, wheels, brakes and high beam assist. 92k km I think it had on it, rear tyres needed doing and I thought I'd won the lotto getting €22k for it last year. It did have 9 months BMW warranty on it and was just serviced.

You've got a lot more spec, x drive but higher miles. I reckon private sale somewhere around the 20k mark is where it's at. Lovely motor, and looks seriously clean.

<vulture>Do those rear lights fit the saloon?<vulture>

Cheers, I'd agree with ye on that.

On the lights....I'm not sure tbh. I think the LCI saloon also needs little plastic gutters that I didn't need for the touring.

Part numbers differ between saloon and touring. Mine are 63212450110 and think saloon ends in 05.

CIP4

vintagevrs wrote: »

Sure it costs nothing to spend hours on autotrader/pistonheads etc and trying to man math different stuff, and if I do nothing for a while I still really like my own motor.


Ahem...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renaultsport-Clio-200-197-Cup-Alien-Green-Recaro-Bilstein-Coilovers-Speedlines-/333490082593

Always buy the new car first do the maths after :pac:

Ciano35

Quick question about VRT, if I buy a car from the north, can I park it up for a few months and pay VRT say 3 months down the line without any penalties?

Also, the omsp is €2,000 on the VRT calculator meaning the VRT would be about €800. In reality, the car is worth about €15,000, so is the actual VRT likely going to be a lot more?

Big Nasty

CIP4 wrote: »

Always buy the new car first do the maths after :pac:

Yeah, fup this procrastinating for months beforehand.

vintagevrs

Ciano35 wrote: »

Quick question about VRT, if I buy a car from the north, can I park it up for a few months and pay VRT say 3 months down the line without any penalties?

Also, the omsp is €2,000 on the VRT calculator meaning the VRT would be about €800. In reality, the car is worth about €15,000, so is the actual VRT likely going to be a lot more?

I don't think you can park it up, needs to be within 30 days of entering the state. I presume it's a private sale so not sure how they can prove when you brought it in though.

What car is it that is undervalued like that?

Ciano35

vintagevrs wrote: »

I don't think you can park it up, needs to be within 30 days of entering the state. I presume it's a private sale so not sure how they can prove when you brought it in though.

What car is it that is undervalued like that?

Ah ok. Yeah it’s private, I guess I could buy the car and delay all the paperwork part of it if the seller would agree to it.

It’s an Impreza sti. Omsp showing as about 2k on the calculator but they look to be going for about 13-20k here.

colm_mcm

Does the Co2 figure on VRT calculator exactly match the figure of the particular car? If not, you’re rolling the dice on the revenue valuation.

Ciano35

colm_mcm wrote: »

Does the Co2 figure on VRT calculator exactly match the figure of the particular car? If not, you’re rolling the dice on the revenue valuation.

Looked up the official co2 figure for the car and it’s 242 g/km, vrt calculator is also showing 242

colm_mcm

That’s good start. I wouldn’t take the calculator as a 100% guarantee of what they’ll charge, but it has to be worth chancing

Ciano35

colm_mcm wrote: »

That’s good start. I wouldn’t take the calculator as a 100% guarantee of what they’ll charge, but it has to be worth chancing

Thanks, really like the car but it wouldn’t make financial sense if the vrt ends up being 3-4k.