***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

colm_mcm

You’ll probably have nox charge of €600 as well as I doubt there’s a documented nox figure for it.

Ciano35

colm_mcm wrote: »

You’ll probably have nox charge of €600 as well as I doubt there’s a documented nox figure for it.

Yeah have that taken into account too.

User1998

You’ll need a dated hand written invoice to vrt the car from a private sale, Don’t write the date at the time of sale. Write the date when your ready to vrt

Or be a good citizen and pay the late penalty. It would be feck all even after 3 months on an €800 vrt.

I think the late fee is VRT x 0.1% x amount of days late so say €800 x 0.1% x 90 = €72

Edit: It would be €172. Theres a €100 charge even if your one day late

Ciano35

Thanks user much appreciated.

So if I do it all properly then I need a hand written invoice, book an nct inspection within 7 days, and vrt within 30 days.

Can I declare it off the road straight away or would it need to be taxed first?

User1998

You need to tax the car to get the Irish logbook so it will have to be taxed anyway

colm_mcm

You can declare it off the road without taxing but you need to do it ASAP

vintagevrs

Ciano35 wrote: »

Looked up the official co2 figure for the car and it’s 242 g/km, vrt calculator is also showing 242

Just make sure the UK V5 states the same. You're in the top bracket anyway I think so it can't really be any worse. The only thing that could make it worse is if they adjust the omsp, so get a screen shot/print out of what yours is now should help.

And feck paying late fees, the seller may agree to let you buy it and do paper work later if your reasons are genuine enough. It's a niche enough car so not owned by a typical motorist so hopefully they understand your ask.

Ciano35

Ok so on the v5 emissions it has 257, which is higher than the vrt calculator figure of 242. So this would cause me some headaches I guess?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Ciano35 wrote: »

Ok so on the v5 emissions it has 257, which is higher than the vrt calculator figure of 242. So this would cause me some headaches I guess?

Well they will be quick to come up with a VRT price but I've a gut feeling it's going to be an awful lot more than the calculator - maybe a few thousand depending on the car etc ? (The price you purchase the vehicle for is irrelevant, it's the OMSP they want)

Then don't forget your NoX tax ! Again depending on car and year could be only a few hundred or anything up to 3/4K

There's about 6 Imprezas on the NoX list and all petrol ones are less than 300 euro

vintagevrs

Nox is capped at 600 if it isn't diesel(lucky us). Youre in the top band of 226 or more at 27% already. If the other car on their calculator is the same description as yours, make, model, year, millage etc I think they would have to value your car at around the same. The bill is still going to be 27% of that market value so if it was me I'd go for it based on what you have. If I'm wrong though, I'm not paying the difference

Marcusm

Ciano35 wrote: »

Ok so on the v5 emissions it has 257, which is higher than the vrt calculator figure of 242. So this would cause me some headaches I guess?

Different CO2 means different statistical code which means it would be sent off for valuation and if they are truly going for 15k, you’d want to take that into account!

_Kaiser_

Passed the 400,000km mark yesterday morning in the A6. Another 300km by last night.. Not a bother on her.

Fantastic machine

Interslice

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Passed the 400,000km mark yesterday morning in the A6. Another 300km by last night.. Not a bother on her.

Fantastic machine

Whats the spec on that kaiser? Sounds like a gem. I know its a 3.0 tdi?

_Kaiser_

Interslice wrote: »

Whats the spec on that kaiser? Sounds like a gem. I know its a 3.0 tdi?

Yup.. 2010 (last of the c6 generation so all the bugs worked out) 3.0 TDI Quattro S-Line LeMans 240(ish) bhp and tiptronic.

Lots of toys including 19 inch alloys, heated electric leather seats, DAB radio, built in mp3 jukebox and 6cd changer (the latter of which I've never used), BOSE audio, Bluetooth, satnav, front and rear parking sensors with display, auto lights, auto wipers, auto dimming mirrors (with the passenger one automatically angling down when reversing), dual zone climate control, xenons, DRLs, front fogs, cruise control, paddle shifters... and probably some other stuff I've left out

The biggest problem I have with it is trying to find something equivalent or better to replace it with when the time comes!

Wibbs

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

The biggest problem I have with it is trying to find something equivalent or better to replace it with when the time comes!

Rebuild the engine or whatever and drive on until we're all driving around in fusion powered hoverpods. You owe it that at this stage.

It can be easy enough to get a basic no frills well made car to that kinda mileage, but not so easy with all the toys and with them all still working. Nice one.

_Kaiser_

Wibbs wrote: »

Rebuild the engine or whatever and drive on until we're all driving around in fusion powered hoverpods. You owe it that at this stage.

It can be easy enough to get a basic no frills well made car to that kinda mileage, but not so easy with all the toys and with them all still working. Nice one.

I think I'd happily drive on another few years in her, but the insurance companies and their policies of pricing bigger older cars off the road are against it - experienced this previously with my 05 model of the same car where at 11 years old, several were refusing to quote at all.

Then there's the annual NCT requirement. My car is serviced on time or when something needs doing but it's an extra expense and the very real chance of a retest fee for something trivial.

Unfortunately I reckon I'll have to really be thinking about the change this time next year but as I say, the challenge will be getting something with the same spec and power for the same 20k I paid for this one a bit over 3 years ago.

Wibbs

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I think I'd happily drive on another few years in her, but the insurance companies and their policies of pricing bigger older cars off the road are against it - experienced this previously with my 05 model of the same car where at 11 years old, several were refusing to quote at all.

Don't get me started on those [expletives deleted] K and manufacturers, government and the financial sector. Eff all about "risk", or the "environment" or "safety" and much more about pimping the consumer churn for vested interests like themselves.

Interslice

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Yup.. 2010 (last of the c6 generation so all the bugs worked out) 3.0 TDI Quattro S-Line LeMans 240(ish) bhp and tiptronic.

Lots of toys including 19 inch alloys, heated electric leather seats, DAB radio, built in mp3 jukebox and 6cd changer (the latter of which I've never used), BOSE audio, Bluetooth, satnav, front and rear parking sensors with display, auto lights, auto wipers, auto dimming mirrors (with the passenger one automatically angling down when reversing), dual zone climate control, xenons, DRLs, front fogs, cruise control, paddle shifters... and probably some other stuff I've left out

The biggest problem I have with it is trying to find something equivalent or better to replace it with when the time comes!

That sounds like it will be tough to replace without massive wallet surgery alright. I was wondering about the year as you do hear of that v6 tdi engine giving hassle. A lemans spec a6 estate is on my radar for future motors.

firstlight

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Passed the 400,000km mark yesterday morning in the A6. Another 300km by last night.. Not a bother on her.

Fantastic machine

409,000 Kms on mine but much older 02
Again a great machine and gives no bother atal ðŸ˜

_Kaiser_

Interslice wrote: »

That sounds like it will be tough to replace without massive wallet surgery alright. I was wondering about the year as you do hear of that v6 tdi engine giving hassle. A lemans spec a6 estate is on my radar for future motors.

Yea my 05 had the well known chain rattle on startup problem which can ultimately lead to stretching and breaking but it would have meant big money taking the engine out and replacing it so it just wasn't worth it for a 10 year old car with high mileage and a 1500 Euro motor tax bill.

Luckily aside from the rattle for a few seconds, there was no other problem.

My 2010 face-lift though has been perfect in that regard even with nearly double the mileage.


I'm actually thinking about going to an A8 next as the basic spec is higher so I'm more likely to get most/all of what I have now and older examples are common enough within the budget I'm thinking... But against that I'm told servicing will be more expensive as the parts are different in many cases, as opposed to the common bin the A4/6 and others in the range share.

Wibbs

Had my own pet car at the vets yesterday. Noisy wheel bearing. Up on the lift to see which one. Spin, spin, spin. OK those three are grand. Spi... eh, has someone lightly depressed the brake? :eek: Front passenger. Stiff as a bishop in a whorehouse. Came on quick enough too. Flew through the NCT last December. Started to get loud in the last fortnight. All sorted after some issues with the wrong bearing supplied by Micksgarage(first time error with them to be fair). Car feels much better oddly enough. Must have affected the suspension/setup?

Folks, any of the Dublin contingent recommend a trustworthy mechanic to look at a Nissan Note wheel bearing in Tallaght or nearby? My sister in Dublin reckons she has been ripped off more than once so brings her car to my mechanic in Limerick whenever she needs something done. Not an option this time with a possible dodgey wheel bearing. Thanks

wotzgoingon

Wibbs wrote: »

All sorted after some issues with the wrong bearing supplied by Micksgarage(first time error with them to be fair).

I used MG many times and they were always correct except once for me also. Put the Toyota part number in for a timing belt and sent out one for an avensis. It wasn't the guy sorting the order error it was their system as I entered the part number again and seen the exact one they sent out come up in the picture and numbers on box the same.

Tazzimus

I've started the (very) long process of stripping the DC2 down to see what can be transferred over and what needs to be replaced.

The radiator support may be unsalvageable, but wings etc look ok bar a small bit of surface rust, so hopefully won't have to buy too many bits.

Gonna lash on a load of underseal while I have the other shell stripped down to try make it last longer over here.

This is gonna end up being a bigger job than I planned as no doubt the more I strip back, the more I'll want to fix.

PsychoPete

Tazzimus wrote: »

so hopefully won't have to buy too many bits

If only it was that easy, said that with one of my projects,3k into it and it still hasn't seen the sight of road

wotzgoingon

Rust never used to bother me but I finally realized the damage rust can do. My last NCT the guy busted through the chassis rail at the back on one side so had to get it welded. I don't even know if they cut out the bad bit or just welded a strip straight up but I have a full years NCT so who knows what will happen next year at the test.

Jap 1998 car that is getting rare enough to see out and about. Same really.

wotzgoingon

Tazzimus wrote: »

I've started the (very) long process of stripping the DC2 down to see what can be transferred over and what needs to be replaced.

The radiator support may be unsalvageable, but wings etc look ok bar a small bit of surface rust, so hopefully won't have to buy too many bits.

Gonna lash on a load of underseal while I have the other shell stripped down to try make it last longer over here.

This is gonna end up being a bigger job than I planned as no doubt the more I strip back, the more I'll want to fix.

I always wanted to own a DC2 but to find a good one now would be next to impossible. Wibbs' one looks in great shape from a picture he posted recently.

What is wrong with your one since you are transferring parts over and is the donar car a DC2 or DC1?

Wibbs

Tazzimus wrote: »

This is gonna end up being a bigger job than I planned as no doubt the more I strip back, the more I'll want to fix.

My main worry with one, and many Japanese cars of that era, would be the sills and the rear quarters. Particularly on them. If there are any bubbles in the paint around the wheelarch, especially near the sill, there are guaranteed horrors behind. :eek::(:( It's why I sourced a non rusty pair of rear quarters a few years back(from a 1.6. They seem to suffer less from rust than the R for some reason). MX 5's can be a disaster for hidden rust. MR2's another. Mitzi's and Scoobies seem to fair a little better.

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I always wanted to own a DC2 but to find a good one now would be next to impossible.

There was one on Donedeal a few weeks back, a 97 R for 1200 quid ONO. Yep, just over a grand. Was tempted as a donor or just to keep but don't have the space. Oh and it was up for sale for about three weeks. In the UK or Japan it would have gone in hours. In the US they'd sell their grannies to buy it. Even if you added a zero. Cars like that are almost unsaleable here in Ireland. Those guys who have them for sale at 7,8 and 10 grand are dreaming. No doubt they've put loads into them and I get that, but between insane insurance and to be fair a lack of interest in them here among enough people that's the reality. Most Irish petrolheads have gone RWD and towards Bavaria. I would have myself TBH, only for circumstances and luck.

The rotary scene seems to have hung on healthily enough. I see RX7 and 8's often enough. A mate has just bought one of the latter. Got it for feck all too. The engine is a beautifully engineered petrol leak but my god it's smooth. Saw an FTO in nice nick in Meath last week, but 90's JDM stuff is rare to see. Then again it's over twenty years ago now so...

Wibbs' one looks in great shape from a picture he posted recently.

It's pretty sound W. Paint is so so(well the clear coat in spots. Pure sh1te factory paint on the silver ones). Even though I thought I'd only have it a year or two, the weekend after I bought it I filled the sills, box sections, under the carpet, spare wheel well, bottoms of the doors and arches, leading edges of bonnet and boot with the guts of four cans of waxoyl. I rewax the thing every summer, only now with the Bilt Hamber goo(5/6 cans). Much easier to apply. My dad and an uncle(Italian classic car nutter) made me paranoid about rust from an early age. Even with all that I've had to get a small patch(ciggie packet sized) welded into the inside of one sill a few years back.

Wibbs

Tazzimus wrote: »

I've started the (very) long process of stripping the DC2 down to see what can be transferred over and what needs to be replaced.

The radiator support may be unsalvageable, but wings etc look ok bar a small bit of surface rust, so hopefully won't have to buy too many bits.

Now that I mention it T and FWIW if I have any bits and bobs useful to you let me know.

Tazzimus

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I always wanted to own a DC2 but to find a good one now would be next to impossible. Wibbs' one looks in great shape from a picture he posted recently.

What is wrong with your one since you are transferring parts over and is the donar car a DC2 or DC1?

Yeah they're hard to find as everyone seems to be breaking them nowadays, never thought I'd see the day where a championship white DC2 Type R is classed as a rare car.

Popped the bottom end round Mondello many years back, parked it in the mothers garage til I could afford to fix it. Turns out the garage wasn't as dry as I thought and the current shell is rotten with rust.
Picked up another Type R shell the other week in much better nick so transferring everything to that.
New shell has a UK front though so need to swap em over, as well as all the goodies from the original shell.

Wibbs

Tazzimus wrote: »

Yeah they're hard to find as everyone seems to be breaking them nowadays, never thought I'd see the day where a championship white DC2 Type R is classed as a rare car[insert nearly every car model here].

It's mad how it goes T. I mean if you go back to the 70's there was a time when secondhand Ferrari's hit the bottom of their depreciation curve and vanished into sheds or were scrapped. I've a few 70's car mags about the place and the classifieds... Ferrari Dinos for the same price as a two year old Ford Cortina E. 2x2 Ferraris were cheaper again(many were reshelled as crappy coupes or spiders). 6 pot E-Types ditto. Oh for a time machine. I wonder does the Tardis take a trailer hitch.

But sure look at the hot hatches and Cosworths and the like before the JDM scene(more my time, than yours T. I was in early stage oulfella when JDM came along ). Bloody rare to see outside car shows. And there was a time when I knew a few people running those sorta cars as dailies. I was offered a BMW e30 M3 in the late 90's for 4-5 grand. Yer man couldn't give it away. LHD and that. I know one lad who had two of them in his shed, one an Evo. Hard to number the Cossies, Escort, Sierra and Sapphire you'd see or know. They were demons for the rust too and near impossible to insure. Though for a nice change you couldinsure them here. In the UK; Can we have both your kidneys and your first born and an identical Cossie, plus 10,000 Sterlings(that last bit was true).

Though as Jay Leno has noted, "back in the day" as he likes to put it, he was given some older fancy cars. His first Lambo Muira for one. It had a blown engine and as he said back in the early 80's you couldn't get the parts, there were no workshop manuals available, so if they broke they were little more than scrap. Many of the few collectors just bought them for display. Older cars like 20's Dusenbergs were worse. He said you'd go to a fancy concours event and one might have two black tyres of uncertain parentage, one whitewall and a truck tyre, and barely running if running at all. And it would win. According to himself getting tyres alone was a bloody nightmare, but as he says now you can email a few crowds and get the right tyres. Mad money, but you can at least get them.

The interwebs was a major change here. Yes it drove up prices but you can get all the info and most of the parts. Can you imagine T trying to rebuild your Teg without the interwebs? :eek: Good luck. You'd have to ring every Honda garage in Ireland hoping they had some bits and bobs in the back gathering dust. Though pre interwebs you did have that detective work thing ringing and asking the parts guy nicely had he any bits and bobs for Car X. Been there. Oh the Petrolhead cargasm to find a pair of single leaf springs for a 2.8i Capri. And then ring all your mates. That was the pop shot. Ye youngfellas don't know you're born/what you're missing.

Midnight_EG

I texted the fella I sold my DC2 to the other day, out of curiosity, and he wants €10k for it... To think I paid €2400 in 2012 for it!


On an entirely unrelated note, my scooby has shat a radiator on day 6 of ownership and well I'm just glad it's not a headgasket

Wibbs

Midnight_EG wrote: »

I texted the fella I sold my DC2 to the other day, out of curiosity, and he wants €10k for it... To think I paid €2400 in 2012 for it!

He may as well dream there as in bed M. I'd even be willing to bet that if he put it up for sale at 2400 quid he'd be waiting longer than he imagines before he'd get an actual concrete buyer even at that price. He'd do better in the UK alright, if he dropped the price by about 4 grand...

On an entirely unrelated note, my scooby has shat a radiator on day 6 of ownership and well I'm just glad it's not a headgasket

Ouch, but yeah significantly less of a headmelt than a headgasket.

tossy

Is there a website to check when if a vehicle was last taxed ?

colm_mcm

Not for free.

CarsIreland will tell you how much tax is left on a car though.

tossy

colm_mcm wrote: »

Not for free.

CarsIreland will tell you how much tax is left on a car though.

how so ? By pretending to post an Advert ? I tried that but the tax section is just blank, it's a van if that makes any difference.

punisher5112

Why would you need to know though?

_Kaiser_

Won't be long and I'll be posting that I've hit the next 50k milestone

punisher5112

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Won't be long and I'll be posting that I've hit the next 50k milestone

Done well making it on its roof ;-)

_Kaiser_

punisher5112 wrote: »

Done well making it on its roof ;-)

Damn mobile. It looked grand in the preview!

tossy

punisher5112 wrote: »

Why would you need to know though?

Waiting on a leasing company to send out a tax disk, want to know if it's taxed and there's a physical disc in their office or if they are just completely useless.

Wibbs

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Won't be long and I'll be posting that I've hit the next 50k milestone

Didn't realise you drove a Holden K.

colm_mcm

tossy wrote: »

how so ? By pretending to post an Advert ? I tried that but the tax section is just blank, it's a van if that makes any difference.

Yes it works for vans. If it’s blank it usually doesn’t have tax. It doesn’t tell you test due date for vans.

Duke O Smiley

tossy wrote: »

Is there a website to check when if a vehicle was last taxed ?

Put the reg into adverts.ie as if you are selling the car and it should automatically fill out the tax and NCT details, even if expired

Truckermal

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Put the reg into adverts.ie as if you are selling the car and it should automatically fill out the tax and NCT details, even if expired

Being playing with that for the last hour and every car I had up until the last Passat is off the road even my E30 which was last taxed in 1999...:(

cherryghost

I'm in my first car, Seat Arona brand new. Had it a month now. Honestly I knew there were a lot of terrible drivers on the road but I'm only now aware the sheer amount of them driving the roads. Cannot comprehend it. It's like roundabouts are alien to people and they've never used them before

Mervyn Skidmore

Quick question. My 2006 civic 1.4 dsi instrument cluster was throwing up engine warning lights. Local mechanic installed a 2nd hand one for me. It's now reading a lower milage (presumably the milage of the donor car). Any way to get this changed to the proper milage without incurring much cost? Car isn't worth a whole pile but i wouldn't like to be accused of falsifying anything if i were to sell it. I presume the NCT certs will look strange now.

punisher5112

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Quick question. My 2006 civic 1.4 dsi instrument cluster was throwing up engine warning lights. Local mechanic installed a 2nd hand one for me. It's now reading a lower milage (presumably the milage of the donor car). Any way to get this changed to the proper milage without incurring much cost? Car isn't worth a whole pile but i wouldn't like to be accused of falsifying anything if i were to sell it. I presume the NCT certs will look strange now.

Take a photo put in the glove box, write a note stating the mileage and then they can add it on from there.

I would leave as is to be honest and if selling just let them know.

tossy

Isn't working for me just leaves tax box blank.

Mervyn Skidmore

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Quick question. My 2006 civic 1.4 dsi instrument cluster was throwing up engine warning lights. Local mechanic installed a 2nd hand one for me. It's now reading a lower milage (presumably the milage of the donor car). Any way to get this changed to the proper milage without incurring much cost? Car isn't worth a whole pile but i wouldn't like to be accused of falsifying anything if i were to sell it. I presume the NCT certs will look strange now.

Are the engine warning lights no longer an issue?