***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

OldMrBrennan83

Augeo wrote: »

Caddys were at their best when they were a Polo with the van tacked on. The Caddy van is better than a Berlingo etc but still a woeful yoke compared to anything car derived.

I've never experienced a harder ride in anything, and I've put poly bushes in cars before. If you had any long term exposure to driving one you wouldn't have a spine left.

Also, no air con in a 2018, a touchscreen radio without steering controls, zero covers or sound deadening above or below the engine, and 75bhp from a 2.0TDI. Woeful stuff.

Alanstrainor

Patww79 wrote: »

Also, no air con in a 2018, a touchscreen radio without steering controls, zero covers or sound deadening above or below the engine, and 75bhp from a 2.0TDI. Woeful stuff.

Jesus. I never would have thought a new car would come with such a low spec. I guess they sell these vans for the absolute lowest price to appeal to companies who will buy a whole fleet of them.

Interslice

Ford a tearing ahead of VW on the commercial side of things the last 5 years. We have the latest transits here in work and theyre lovely to drive.

OldMrBrennan83

Interslice wrote: »

Ford a tearing ahead of VW on the commercial side of things the last 5 years. We have the latest transits here in work and theyre lovely to drive.

I've a connect myself and it's like night and day.

ELM327

I've to drive various fleet leased commercials from time to time through work and the worst was the renault master. Newer fords are actually nice places to be at this stage. Berlingo/partner used to be the worst of the bunch but I'm hearing down the line that we're not getting any more caddys as the lease place doesnt get them in any more.
They must be bad so.
I remember caddy being the best small van.

bazz26

The problem with the Caddy is that it hasn't changed enough since 2004.

h3000

I've a Caddy as my work vehicle it's not base spec though which makes it a little nicer place to be. It's the 150bhp version, it does have a full/solid bulkhead which helps the sound deadening and it does have aircon. I've had the base spec ones too which are awful. There is a big change going from a 150bhp to a 75bhp :eek:. I would prefer the connect myself if the had a more powerful engine.

James Bond Junior

I'm in a doblo this week, 1.3 aside it is actually a grand yoke.

I did Venice to Slovinia in a 500 powered by that little 1.3, wasn't too bad iirc
I was carrying nothing admittedly.

tcawley29

Just picked this up off avis



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colm_mcm

h3000 wrote: »

I've a Caddy as my work vehicle it's not base spec though which makes it a little nicer place to be. It's the 150bhp version, it does have a full/solid bulkhead which helps the sound deadening and it does have aircon. I've had the base spec ones too which are awful. There is a big change going from a 150bhp to a 75bhp :eek:. I would prefer the connect myself if the had a more powerful engine.

The Connects get into silly money once you go up the range. Even the Couriers are crazy pricey with a bit of spec

selectamatic

Augeo wrote: »

The Caddy van is better than a Berlingo etc but still a woeful yoke compared to anything car derived.

From a reliability point maybe but with regards comfort I've always found berlingo's and partner's to be much more comfortable than caddy's.



On a slightly related note,
The farm workhorse a 2004 1.9d peugeot partner reached a new milestone yesterday.

Apart from routine maintenance and the customary dw8 headgasket replacement at the 2nd timing belt change its been pretty reliable.

vintagevrs

Should the grooves in these discs not be orientated differently for each side?

rex-x

Depends if the vanes inside are directional or not? Those outer grooves are purely cosmetic

vintagevrs

Yeah I read that, inside is not directional. So should be good apart from it doesn't fecking look right. And let's be honest here, that's why I bought em

rex-x

vintagevrs wrote: »

Yeah I read that, inside is not directional. So should be good apart from it doesn't fecking look right. And let's be honest here, that's why I bought em

They are much cheaper to make if they are the same on both sides, thats why you have a matching pair unfortunately

Cantona's Collars

The Journal have details of the terms of the new contract for clampers in Dublin. One is €150 fine for them every time a person clamped successfully appeals.

wotzgoingon

vintagevrs wrote: »

Should the grooves in these discs not be orientated differently for each side?

There is nothing wrong with them the grooves slot back to the back of the car on both sides the way they are suppose to.

You just compared them side to side while looking at them and not comparing when on the car.

OldMrBrennan83

One last thing on the VW too. How have they never been able to solve the fogging up windscreen problem? Used to be horrendous in my Passat, A6, and A3, the last car of theirs I drove (2014 Golf) was the same, and this van was no different. One drop of rain and you need the blowers on the screen at a heat that would melt the sun to see out.

MetzgerMeister

Having the A/C on all the time at a low setting eradicates the majority of interior fog.

I used only use A/C during the summer when it was hot and normal hot air in the winter which made the fog go mad but now I have it on constantly with both cold and hot air and it keeps away any condensation.

fancy pigeon

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Having the A/C on all the time at a low setting eradicates the majority of interior fog.

I used only use A/C during the summer when it was hot and normal hot air in the winter which made the fog go mad but now I have it on constantly with both cold and hot air and it keeps away any condensation.

Thanks to this legendary advice last year I've done the same and never looked back. No more foggy windows in winter, let alone the rest of the year :cool:

Although I think the A/C needs to be regassed at this stage...

Alanstrainor

My A/C does not function in any way at the minute. I've never had it re-gassed, but I would imagine I have bigger issues somewhere. Perhaps an o-ring leak in the system.

vintagevrs

wotzgoingon wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with them the grooves slot back to the back of the car on both sides the way they are suppose to.

You just compared them side to side while looking at them and not comparing when on the car.

Not sure what you mean. If the disks are fitted to each side of the car, their orientation compared with direction of travel will be different.


I expected them to be like this:

Alanstrainor

Alanstrainor wrote: »

My A/C does not function in any way at the minute. I've never had it re-gassed, but I would imagine I have bigger issues somewhere. Perhaps an o-ring leak in the system.

You could be pleasantly surprised.

I found these lads in Cork very helpful...... http://www.fastfit.ie/services/air-conditioning.php ........... went in for a regas and they did a leak test first. Told me I had a leak.

Their equipment is decent as another crowd reckoned I had no leak (I told them I had a leak) and recharged it for it to last only 2 or 3 days.

Anyway, I believe once the system drops to a certain % the compressor won't kick in so you might well not have a leak...... the FastFit folk effectively offer a quick and free (if there's a leak) leaktest from my experience

blade1

vintagevrs wrote: »

Not sure what you mean. If the disks are fitted to each side of the car, their orientation compared with direction of travel will be different.


I expected them to be like this:

I thought the same about tyres I had fitted before.
The threads were going opposite ways on each side of the car.
I thought to myself, that can't be right??

MetzgerMeister

To drive OCD insane, these Mazda6 alloys are directional too. On the passenger side the spokes "sweep" along but on the driver's side they claw towards the ground

colm_mcm

Yeah but looking side on, the drivers side wheel turns clockwise and the passenger side anti clockwise, if the discs are milled the same then the channels will behave differently. I’m going on the assumption that the grooves are to dissipate heat

Interslice

edit: those discs are grand

vintagevrs

blade1 wrote: »

I thought the same about tyres I had fitted before.
The threads were going opposite ways on each side of the car.
I thought to myself, that can't be right??

I had the same thought before too after getting a set of tyres fitted. I still don't really understand how it can work as effectively when it looks like it's on backwards. I think Uniroyal must have had a load of similar questions from customers as I found this on their site at the time:

https://www.uniroyal.co.uk/car/knowledge/tyre-knowledge/how-to-fit-your-rainsport-3-tyres

blade1

vintagevrs wrote: »

I had the same thought before too after getting a set of tyres fitted. I still don't really understand how it can work as effectively when it looks like it's on backwards. I think Uniroyal must have had a load of similar questions from customers as I found this on their site at the time:

https://www.uniroyal.co.uk/car/knowledge/tyre-knowledge/how-to-fit-your-rainsport-3-tyres

Thanks for that,it explains it.
The ones I had were Vredestein and I thought they felt weird on bends in the dry.
I put it down to the direction of the threads on one side so right or wrong it would put me off buying them again.

joujoujou

vintagevrs wrote: »

Not sure what you mean. If the disks are fitted to each side of the car, their orientation compared with direction of travel will be different.


I expected them to be like this:

And that's exactly how they should be.

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

To drive OCD insane, these Mazda6 alloys are directional too. On the passenger side the spokes "sweep" along but on the driver's side they claw towards the ground

[...]

If they're all identical while compared to each other, especially if all taken off the car, they're not directional, but indeed, OCD-wise it could be much better to have them like mirror image, 2+2. And some wheels are made that way, however rarely.

2 examples:

ba_barabus

joujoujou wrote: »

And that's exactly how they should be.
If they're all identical while compared to each other, especially if all taken off the car, they're not directional, but indeed, OCD-wise it could be much better to have them like mirror image, 2+2. And some wheels are made that way, however rarely.

2 examples:

Escort? and Probe

E36Ross

Patww79 wrote: »

I've never experienced a harder ride in anything, and I've put poly bushes in cars before. If you had any long term exposure to driving one you wouldn't have a spine left.

Also, no air con in a 2018, a touchscreen radio without steering controls, zero covers or sound deadening above or below the engine, and 75bhp from a 2.0TDI. Woeful stuff.

They don't come with covers standard but they do have the positions for them and ones of a Golf or Jetta fit.
I even asked the sales man to see another as I didn't believe VW were that cheap not to bother fitting them!

Night and day difference between a 75 trend and 150 highline.

wotzgoingon

vintagevrs wrote: »

Not sure what you mean. If the disks are fitted to each side of the car, their orientation compared with direction of travel will be different.


I expected them to be like this:

I don't know why you are making it so complicated. Tonight go out to the car and put each disc resting against each tyre/alloy and look at them and they will be the correct way.

Interslice wrote: »

edit: those discs are grand

That's what I said last night????

fancy pigeon

ba_barabus wrote: »

Escort? and Probe

2 pictures of Probes

joujoujou

fancy pigeon wrote: »

2 pictures of Probes

True. :cool:

Never had one, btw.

MetzgerMeister

vintagevrs wrote: »

Should the grooves in these discs not be orientated differently for each side?

Are those 2 front discs or 1 front and 1 rear nearside/offisde discs?

fancy pigeon

joujoujou wrote: »

True. :cool:

Never had one, btw.

Would anyone openly admit to having a nice Probe in the past! :eek::P

blade1

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Are those 2 front discs or 1 front and 1 rear nearside/offisde discs?

They are the same size so either two front or two rear.

joujoujou

fancy pigeon wrote: »

Would anyone openly admit to having a nice Probe in the past! :eek::P

My work colleague had at least 4 (hence I knew about wheels). Now only 2 and he's proud of them.

MetzgerMeister

blade1 wrote: »

They are the same size so either two front or two rear.

Top one looks a bit bigger for some reason.

Vintage, can you post a pic of the full set? If those grooves are directional I think you've been sold 4 discs for one side.

Interslice

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I don't know why you are making it so complicated. Tonight go out to the car and put each disc resting against each tyre/alloy and look at them and they will be the correct way.



That's what I said last night????

Had a big rant about gases escaping from brake pads. Theyre grand but theyre both nearside discs. Classic online parts shopping.

blade1

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Top one looks a bit bigger for some reason.

Optical illusion I'd say.
Boxes look the same size anyway.

vintagevrs

Jesus, I am not making anything complicated. This disks I bought do not come in near/off side. They are identical. The BMW part is the same. Below is a picture of the BMW OEM kit fitted. In my opinion, it just looks wrong, but that's the way it is.

vintagevrs

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Tonight go out to the car and put each disc resting against each tyre/alloy and look at them and they will be the correct way.

No they won't.

MetzgerMeister

vintagevrs wrote: »

Jesus, I am not making anything complicated. This disks I bought do not come in near/off side. They are identical. The BMW part is the same. Below is a picture of the BMW OEM kit fitted. In my opinion, it just looks wrong, but that's the way it is.

Calm down sonny Jim

You were the one saying that you expected them to be directional as per the image you posted.

blade1

The ones facing the wrong way will come in handy when you are reversing!! :pac:

kirving

Checked this out before as it didn't look right to me either. Bottom line is that outside of professional racing, the direction of the grooves or internal ventilation channels make no difference.

Interslice

You could always import one from the southern hemisphere

Noccy_Mondy

Patww79 wrote:

Was doing a bit of work in the UK the end of last week and was given a brand new Caddy to use by our partner company. For something with such a name, they are so disappointing.

One of the lads had an 11 102 brake caddy and replaced it with a 131 connect 90 brake. It was the old shape connect but my God it was horrible to drive and be in. Caddy was miles ahead of it. Different ball game with the new connect though!