***** Motors chat - round 12 *****

bazz26

This is the one I ordered:

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/GRILLE-FOR-BMW-F10-F11-F18-SPORT-KIDNEY-DOUBLE-SLAT-M5-LOOK-GLOSS-BLACK/281814935106?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

Alanstrainor

bazz26 wrote: »

This is the one I ordered:

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/GRILLE-FOR-BMW-F10-F11-F18-SPORT-KIDNEY-DOUBLE-SLAT-M5-LOOK-GLOSS-BLACK/281814935106?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

I'd open a dispute with paypal at this stage. I presume the clips we can see in the photo of the ad is what's broken?

bazz26

Alanstrainor wrote: »

I'd open a dispute with paypal at this stage. I presume the clips we can see in the photo of the ad is what's broken?

Yes 2 of them broken on one side which means the grille won't fit securely. I'm talking to the seller on email so I think this will be resolved.

Skylinehead

Silver grilles for life :cool:

CIP4

Augeo wrote: »

I reckon garages are fleecing people on the major service thing. My sorento is due one too shortly.... it's an air filter and a minor service essentially .... fuel filter not even to be done iirc.

Yes mine is down for oil and Filter, Air and Cabin Filter and spark plugs.

Mine is just out of warranty so probably not a big benefit in getting it serviced in the main dealer. But I find them very good to deal with and in the grand scheme of car owner costs main dealer vs. independent dealer won't swing things that much. As long as I leave on Friday with the same A4 I brought to get serviced thats the main thing

Sexual Chocolate

In Australia I think there is a law where your warranty cannot be voided if you get your car serviced at a non main dealer garage.

James Bond Junior

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

In Australia I think there is a law where your warranty cannot be voided if you get your car serviced at a non main dealer garage.

It exists here once you can prove genuine parts etc have been used. EU directive

Truckermal

Anyone have a solution to prevent a car being destroyed in Tar? Wife's car is destroyed in tar after 2 month's when I done it last! A set of moulded mud flaps is €160 from Audi which would be great if it solved the problem.

bazz26

Nixonbot wrote: »

Silver grilles for life :cool:

Black grilles are the new German plates these days... :pac:

CIP4

Truckermal wrote: »

Anyone have a solution to prevent a car being destroyed in Tar? Wife's car is destroyed in tar after 2 month's when I done it last! A set of moulded mud flaps is €160 from Audi which would be great if it solved the problem.

Showing online for €108 for front and rear you would want to double check they fit the S-Line model though.

I have them on my car and never have much tar on it. To be fair they probably look better without them but they do serve a purpose.

https://www.audishop.ie/a4/transport/mud-flaps-4

James Bond Junior

I sold the Fiancès 1 series on Saturday but getting it prepped for sale I swore a red car will never come into the house again. Destroyed in tar was an understatement and the red just magnifies it.

Truckermal

CIP4 wrote: »

Showing online for €108 for front and rear you would want to double check they fit the S-Line model though.

I have them on my car and never have much tar on it. To be fair they probably look better without them but they do serve a purpose.

https://www.audishop.ie/a4/transport/mud-flaps-4

They won't work with sline bumpers though!

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I sold the Fiancès 1 series on Saturday but getting it prepped for sale I swore a red car will never come into the house again. Destroyed in tar was an understatement and the red just magnifies it.

Ya this is red too and between that and stone chips it's impossible to keep well! My own car is 14 year's old and the paint is perfect!

James Bond Junior

Truckermal wrote: »

They won't work with sline bumpers though!


Ya this is red too and between that and stone chips it's impossible to keep well! My own car is 14 year's old and the paint is perfect!

The stone chips were chronic. Modern BMW paint must be very soft. The paint on my 99 3er is in better nick.

Sexual Chocolate

Any tips on moving a car that's being sitting up for 9 months ? And hasnt being started in about 3-4 months.

Farfromhome02

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Any tips on moving a car that's being sitting up for 9 months ? And hasnt being started in about 3-4 months.

Handbrake could be seized on it,what engine is it? What are you intending to do? Scrap it or put it back the road?

Sexual Chocolate

Farfromhome02 wrote: »

Handbrake could be seized on it,what engine is it? What are you intending to do? Scrap it or put it back the road?

2.5 Mondeo.

Intend on putting it back on the road.

I have to recharge the battery so hoping to start it up in a few days.

Alanstrainor

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

2.5 Mondeo.

Intend on putting it back on the road.

I have to recharge the battery so hoping to start it up in a few days.

I'd just see if it starts and runs smoothly first. 9 months isn't a huge amount of time, I'd do a oil service (oil, oil filter and air filter) and see how she goes.

Sexual Chocolate

Alanstrainor wrote: »

I'd just see if it starts and runs smoothly first. 9 months isn't a huge amount of time, I'd do a oil service (oil, oil filter and air filter) and see how she goes.

Yeah suppose that's all I can do. It will probably take a few hundred kms for everything to get back to normal ?

Big Nasty

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Yeah suppose that's all I can do. It will probably take a few hundred kms for everything to get back to normal ?

It's a Mondeo.

Jump start and leave it running for half an hour. Be grand for the next year!

Alanstrainor

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Yeah suppose that's all I can do. It will probably take a few hundred kms for everything to get back to normal ?

Brake discs will be corroded but should clear up after normal braking. It's a bit of a tough question to answer as it depends on the condition before it was let sit. Fluids might be due a change, the same with other parts. But honestly, check the oil level and if good just jump start and go. A quick drive will tell you how she's ticking over. I bet it'll be grand!

Farfromhome02

Like said,see if it starts,take it for a spin,if it's going alright give it a good service,all it will cost is the price of a service kit

Interslice

Brakes would be the first thing id look at, particularly if the werent great beforehand. Something that was a bit sticky could be seized altogether now.

vintagevrs

Anyone here ever serviced a zf8 gearbox. Its the 8 speed auto in BMW's as well as plenty of other cars. BMW say it never needs attention but zf recommend an oil and filter change at 100k km. To service it you replace the sump as the filter is part of that and swap out the fluid. Reading on how the job is done, fluid needs to be added whilst engine is running per a certain process. Would this be bread and butter type stuff for a BM indy? My box is perfect but figure preventative maintenance might be a good idea, but don't want to dick about with it if it's not straightforward.

Wailin

I wouldn't go near it tbh. Plenty of examples out there with over 250,000 miles and never serviced and no issues. I asked about it once in a dealers and they said it's sealed for the life of the car (like the timing chain!).

James Bond Junior

I brought herself 1 series in for a pre sale check with the buyers mechanic and he was adamant about getting it changed.

Mickiemcfist

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I brought herself 1 series in for a pre sale check with the buyers mechanic and he was adamant about getting it changed.

Maybe email BMW so you can show the response?

Wailin

OSI wrote: »

The same BMW that built “lifetime” timing chains, swirl flaps etc?

BMW did not build the autobox though...

Toyotafanboi

vintagevrs wrote: »

Anyone here ever serviced a zf8 gearbox. Its the 8 speed auto in BMW's as well as plenty of other cars. BMW say it never needs attention but zf recommend an oil and filter change at 100k km. To service it you replace the sump as the filter is part of that and swap out the fluid. Reading on how the job is done, fluid needs to be added whilst engine is running per a certain process. Would this be bread and butter type stuff for a BM indy? My box is perfect but figure preventative maintenance might be a good idea, but don't want to dick about with it if it's not straightforward.

I think it's fairly handy DIY, if you're that way inclined and have axle stands and a vaccum pump. It's bolt on - off for the sump/ filer, fill until the comes out the fill hole, idle engine and top up again, cycle through a series of gears and then top up again. ZF have kindly put a guide online.

https://www.zf.com/unitedkingdom/en_gb/corporate/aftermarket/spare_parts_corporate/transmissions_corporate/how_to_change_oil/change_oil.html

Be no bother to a good independent i'd say.

sunnysoutheast

vintagevrs wrote: »

Anyone here ever serviced a zf8 gearbox. Its the 8 speed auto in BMW's as well as plenty of other cars. BMW say it never needs attention but zf recommend an oil and filter change at 100k km. To service it you replace the sump as the filter is part of that and swap out the fluid. Reading on how the job is done, fluid needs to be added whilst engine is running per a certain process. Would this be bread and butter type stuff for a BM indy? My box is perfect but figure preventative maintenance might be a good idea, but don't want to dick about with it if it's not straightforward.

If you're anywhere near Waterford/Tramore our local Indy serviced ours last year.

Not a big or expensive job. Think it's critical to use the correct fluid and warm the box up properly.

Wailin

I don't know OSI but they've been using them since 2007 and it has never been on the service schedule on any model.

Out of curiosity what other car manufacturers use the ZF box and do they service them?

James Bond Junior

The chap buying the car was happy to get it changed during the next oil service and his mechanic was confident in doing it so I didn't interfere. Interesting though, is there a yearly limit or just 100k? Our 4 series has 34k but will more than likely not hit 100k for years.

vintagevrs

Cheers for the responses. I plan on keeping the car a while so I reckon it'll need doing in my ownership eventually so may as well do it now.

I think BM saying it doesn't need touched is a decision by their finance dept and not their engineers. They probably reckon by the time it fails it's outside warranty so not their issue anymore. I'd prefer to stick to ZF's guidelines on it.

bazz26

Interesting reading here about the life time v long life terms used around maintenance of the ZF8 gearbox:

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-847757.html

Wibbs

OSI wrote: »

The same BMW that built “lifetime” timing chains, swirl flaps etc?

When I see "lifetime" as a description on a car fluid(and a few parts), I think a) Lifetime = until it's outa warranty and not our problem yer honour and b) me hoop.

vintagevrs

James Bond Junior wrote: »

The chap buying the car was happy to get it changed during the next oil service and his mechanic was confident in doing it so I didn't interfere. Interesting though, is there a yearly limit or just 100k? Our 4 series has 34k but will more than likely not hit 100k for years.

8 years mentioned in Bazz's link

Wailin

Interesting link bazz, and going by that mine should be done as I've hit 70k miles. Using the correct oil is critical it seems. Not sure how much longer I'll hold onto my own so I won't be doing it just yet.

Will you chance it yourself vintage?

Duke O Smiley

Gents,

Looking for a sat nav disc for an 06 730d.

Any ideas where I can look bar ebay? Or is that my best option?

Thanks

Truckermal

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Gents,

Looking for a sat nav disc for an 06 730d.

Any ideas where I can look bar ebay? Or is that my best option?

Thanks

PM Voodoomelon.

bazz26

Wailin wrote: »

Interesting link bazz, and going by that mine should be done as I've hit 70k miles. Using the correct oil is critical it seems. Not sure how much longer I'll hold onto my own so I won't be doing it just yet.

Will you chance it yourself vintage?

I'm on my third BMW with the ZF8 gearbox and have never had the t/f changed on any of them. Never had any problems but mind you they were all under the intervals being recommended, during my ownership. I was also told by a few different people in the know that if the box was not giving problems then best to leave it well alone. Hard to know what to believe these days really but I don't think I'll be proactively changing it this year anyway as I have 4 tyres to replace, brake pads and knowing the F10's fondness for discs probably a front set of them too.

On a side note, Wailin are you getting itchy about changing again? Anything caught your eye? A G30 530d?

vintagevrs

If the manufacturer of the box recommends changing the oil every 100ish k km I don't see why not. Leaving it alone may well be fine, but changing it once the gearbox develops an issue may be too late, then the bill is going to be for a new box. The onboard computer tells me every 20k miles for engine oil. I think for the extra cost of doing oil changes a bit more frequently to keep a car in good order makes more sense to me. Likewise for the gearbox. Maybe I'm a fool though, who knows.

CIP4

A 172-D car with a reg in the 15K range would that tell you it’s irish in other words with UK imports do they still get a high number or has the system changed ?

Foxhole Norman

vintagevrs wrote: »

If the manufacturer of the box recommends changing the oil every 100ish k km I don't see why not. Leaving it alone may well be fine, but changing it once the gearbox develops an issue may be too late, then the bill is going to be for a new box. The onboard computer tells me every 20k miles for engine oil. I think for the extra cost of doing oil changes a bit more frequently to keep a car in good order makes more sense to me. Likewise for the gearbox. Maybe I'm a fool though, who knows.

E39's have the "sealed for life" ZF boxes too, mine had never been serviced on the 525 and 540, I serviced both boxes at around 130k miles and both have shifted much better after it and still haven't exploded so I wouldn't believe the scaremongers about changing it and then having the box go!

CIP4

OSI wrote: »

Don't believe they separate the regs like that anymore.

It wouldn't of taken dublin very long to get to 15K in 172 though would it ? in other words if it was a uk import it would of had to have been imported after 2 or 3 months which is unlikely you'd imagine.

CIP4

OSI wrote: »

24709 seems to be the last reg. Make of that what you will.

Yes probably just easier to ring and ask rather than speculating :pac:

Toyotafanboi

Or just type the full reg into the free motorcheck search and it'll tell you.

CIP4

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Or just type the full reg into the free motorcheck search and it'll tell you.

Well it won’t tell you if it’s been imported or not without paying for a full check.

Toyotafanboi

It does, if you just type the reg into the free basic search on the homepage. If it's an Irish car it doesn't say anything but if it's a UK car it tells you, as a tactic to get you to buy a report. "This car is a UK import and we have x other record on it". Try it with a reg that you know to be a UK car and you'll see.

moby2101

I registered an import last year, got a much higher no than anything I’ve seen on the roads

Marcusm

CIP4 wrote: »

A 172-D car with a reg in the 15K range would that tell you it’s irish in other words with UK imports do they still get a high number or has the system changed ?

Don’t know where 172Ds got up to that year but they ceased the high reg numbers from 131D. When I brought a car to Ireland in 2016 I got 132D 14xxx. It’s conceivable that fewer than 15k cars were reg’d in the second half of 2017.

CIP4

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

It does, if you just type the reg into the free basic search on the homepage. If it's an Irish car it doesn't say anything but if it's a UK car it tells you, as a tactic to get you to buy a report. "This car is a UK import and we have x other record on it". Try it with a reg that you know to be a UK car and you'll see.

Ah ok not saying anything about a UK import so seems its Irish so. Thanks.