Man City v Liverpool, Champions League QF - both legs

blueser · 10-04-2018 10:10am

rob316 wrote: »

Predict Liverpool to lose but progress anyway.

Same here. I think we'll win by 2 tonight. The lack of an away goal last week killed us. 3-1, and the tie was still alive. It isn't now.

Mr.H · 10-04-2018 10:27am

blueser wrote:

Same here. I think we'll win by 2 tonight. The lack of an away goal last week killed us. 3-1, and the tie was still alive. It isn't now.

If ye can stay solid at he back ye have a chance though.

SlickRic · 10-04-2018 10:36am

Knex. wrote: »

I have absolutely no idea what way the game will go later. Two potentially explosive sides that can hammer a team off the park, yet both with some defensive frailties.

this is it in a nutshell.

if Liverpool aren't on it, they can easily go 3-0 down in a half. no bother whatsoever.

yourdeadwright · 10-04-2018 10:38am

How many times have City scored 3 at home this season ,
Didn't they batter Spurs there recently was it 4-1 ?

lorcand1990 · 10-04-2018 10:41am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

How many times have City scored 3 at home this season ,
Didn't they batter Spurs there recently was it 4-1 ?

I'm not sure how many times they've done it, but saw this morning that they average 2.8 goals at home per game this season

yourdeadwright · 10-04-2018 10:42am

lorcand1990 wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

How many times have City scored 3 at home this season ,
Didn't they batter Spurs there recently was it 4-1 ?

I'm not sure how many times they've done it, but saw this morning that they average 2.8 goals at home per game this season

Its crazy to think them wining 3-0 is not much of a stretch, But if before the tie you said one team would win a leg 3-0 ud expect them to go through,

8-10 · 10-04-2018 10:42am

lorcand1990 wrote: »

I'm not sure how many times they've done it, but saw this morning that they average 2.8 goals at home per game this season

I'd bite your hand off now for a 2.8-0 defeat

the whole year inn · 10-04-2018 11:00am

Toughest game of the season,at home ,Aguero and Sterling hopefully both start and need deference to be perfect all we can do is wait and see.

Iused2likebusts · 10-04-2018 11:05am

All I know is either pep or klopp is going to be a fraud at the end of this or possibly both of them.

Harry Palmr · 10-04-2018 11:07am

The referee could be the one who decides so much tonight, he seems to be a law unto himself.

yourdeadwright · 10-04-2018 11:18am

Iv played in finals and I was never nervous but iv been a ball of nerves since I woke up this morning

I almost wouldn't mind going home to bed and waking up to the result haha,
I think its the fact we are 3-0 up that makes me more nervous , I can handle us losing but not throwing away such a good lead.
It could be Barcelona ,Madrid, Bayern and Liverpool left how amazing does that sound back in the mix with the giants of football, Fingers ,toes everything crossed,

Knex* · 10-04-2018 11:20am

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The referee could be the one who decides so much tonight, he seems to be a law unto himself.

Yeah. A red card for Liverpool would be an absolute disaster. Especially when we have zero midfielders in reserve.

And on that midfielder issue. The last 20 mins of this game could be brutal for us with no fresh legs to bring on.

10-04-2018 11:22am

I'd say City will need to score 5 to qualify. No reason it's not possible. Hopefully it provides a bit of interest tonight at least.

yourdeadwright · 10-04-2018 11:23am

Knex. wrote: »

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The referee could be the one who decides so much tonight, he seems to be a law unto himself.

Yeah. A red card for Liverpool would be an absolute disaster. Especially when we have zero midfielders in reserve.

And on that midfielder issue. The last 20 mins of this game could be brutal for us with no fresh legs to bring on.

I think he played Klavan on Saturday (get him game time) thinking about this, he knows he has no midfield so id' expect us to go 3 at the back for the last 20 minutes, Maybe even put Trent into midfield and bring on Clyne,
Id also think we will see Moreno on the park further forward at some stage for his energy ,and to keep Walker from bombing on

osarusan · 10-04-2018 11:32am

Really looking forward to it. It really could go any way, which is quite rare in football.

Liverpool defended really well in the second half last week - will they take that approach?

Or will they meet fire with fire and attack as last week, knowing one goal has such massive value?

Rossi IRL · 10-04-2018 11:36am

United fan here.

Would like to see City get back level on the scoreboard tonight, even go one ahead. Then for Pool to come back and get a 94th min winner.

Not often, or ever, that I would want Liverpool to win but tonight is one of those nights.

Knex* · 10-04-2018 11:40am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I think he played Klavan on Saturday (get him game time) thinking about this, he knows he has no midfield so id' expect us to go 3 at the back for the last 20 minutes, Maybe even put Trent into midfield and bring on Clyne,
Id also think we will see Moreno on the park further forward at some stage for his energy ,and to keep Walker from bombing on

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if TAA wasn't training for the midfield role somewhat over the past week. He'll likely be needed there at some stage tonight.

Gini came out during the week and said that Klopp told him back in pre season to prepare for playing the No. 6 role at some stage, and how he put in there in training every now and again.

Apparently for the days before the Everton game, Klopp kept playing 11 v 11 in training to really help acclimatise Gini to the position.

yourdeadwright · 10-04-2018 11:47am

Knex. wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I think he played Klavan on Saturday (get him game time) thinking about this, he knows he has no midfield so id' expect us to go 3 at the back for the last 20 minutes, Maybe even put Trent into midfield and bring on Clyne,
Id also think we will see Moreno on the park further forward at some stage for his energy ,and to keep Walker from bombing on

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if TAA wasn't training for the midfield role somewhat over the past week. He'll likely be needed there at some stage tonight.

Gini came out during the week and said that Klopp told him back in pre season to prepare for playing the No. 6 role at some stage, and how he put in there in training every now and again.

Apparently for the days before the Everton game, Klopp kept playing 11 v 11 in training to really help acclimatise Gini to the position.

I read that its very interesting and shows the lengths they go to prepare,
Gini hasn't played a lot recently so hopefully he is fresh and last's the pace, I
Its the other two I worry about, Milner will out everything in but tire , Correct me if I'm wrong but OX rarely plays 90 minutes

LuckyLloyd · 10-04-2018 11:52am

8-10 wrote: »

Terrified. Absolutely bricking it.

Yep!

greendom · 10-04-2018 11:55am

Thinking of putting a fiver on City winning 3 - 0 after 90 mins tonight.

LuckyLloyd · 10-04-2018 11:55am

Look, we need to ****ing score. There's no way around that. If anyone thinks we're going to suddenly channel the Benitez days of old and lock it up for 90 minutes they're mad. City will attack relentlessly and will score a couple of goals. We need to take advantage of that and catch them on the break. Catch them once they have a mountain to climb, catch them twice and they need a historic performance.

Morzadec · 10-04-2018 12:14pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Look, we need to ****ing score. There's no way around that. If anyone thinks we're going to suddenly channel the Benitez days of old and lock it up for 90 minutes they're mad. City will attack relentlessly and will score a couple of goals. We need to take advantage of that and catch them on the break. Catch them once they have a mountain to climb, catch them twice and they need a historic performance.

Yeah I agree, we need a goal or it's likely to become very very squeaky.

You can't even rule out a 5-1, you never really know. These CL games with the mentality and momentum shift that the importance of every goal brings can throw up surprising flurries of goals.

Spanish ref as has been raised - expect plenty of cards. Keeping 11 men on the pitch is huge as has been pointed out and especially when you consider what happened earlier in the season.

A little worried by the lack of a proper DM with Can and Hendo out. Winny will play this role and I think he'll be good on the ball, but does he have the head to effectively play this game? Lack of cover as well is worrying.

Getting through the first 20 minutes 0-0 will be huge, need to silence the crowd and stifle any belief.

greendom · 10-04-2018 12:18pm

Morzadec wrote: »

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Look, we need to ****ing score. There's no way around that. If anyone thinks we're going to suddenly channel the Benitez days of old and lock it up for 90 minutes they're mad. City will attack relentlessly and will score a couple of goals. We need to take advantage of that and catch them on the break. Catch them once they have a mountain to climb, catch them twice and they need a historic performance.

Yeah I agree, we need a goal or it's likely to become very very squeaky.

You can't even rule out a 5-1, you never really know. These CL games with the mentality and momentum shift that the importance of every goal brings can throw up surprising flurries of goals.

Spanish ref as has been raised - expect plenty of cards. Keeping 11 men on the pitch is huge as has been pointed out and especially when you consider what happened earlier in the season.

A little worried by the lack of a proper DM with Can and Hendo out. Winny will play this role and I think he'll be good on the ball, but does he have the head to effectively play this game? Lack of cover as well is worrying.

Getting through the first 20 minutes 0-0 will be huge, need to silence the crowd and stifle any belief.

I think to stifle belief Pool need to go 1 or even 2 up in the first 20 - 30minutes. We've all seen how quickly goals can be scored when these 2 teams meet

MarkY91 · 10-04-2018 12:22pm

City already destroyed us 5-0 this season. Although I blame the red card for such a huge defeat. I still think it's possible they can be 2-0 up at half time with everything to play for.

Liverpool just need to remember that scoring 1 goal more or less finishes the tie. And they're quite capable of doing that even against city at the Etihad.

Fascinating match ahead for both fans and neutrals.

ebbsy · 10-04-2018 12:26pm

I am not concerned at all. Put the squeeze on City and they collapse at the back.

As long as Pool stay on the front foot it will be grand.

Iang87 · 10-04-2018 12:57pm

I came in here to help calm my nerves. I leave here certain city win 10 nil. Thanks all

citytillidie · 10-04-2018 1:00pm

I am saying nothing about the score until at least 9:30pm tonight

Harry Palmr · 10-04-2018 1:01pm

Last 30 could well look like this

Karius

VVD--Lovren--Klavan
Clyne

Wiji

Moreno

Milner---Ox
----TAA----Firmino---Mane

and the last 10

Karius
Clyne---VVD--Lovren--Klavan
TAA-Wiji--Ox--Milner--Mane

Moreno

Trigger · 10-04-2018 1:02pm

Is Salah fit to start?

citytillidie · 10-04-2018 1:03pm

Just hope there is no crowd trouble if Liverpool fans have bought tickets in the home end

Harry Palmr · 10-04-2018 1:04pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Just hope there is no crowd trouble if Liverpool fans have bought tickets in the home end

Only if City park the bus.

jebidiah · 10-04-2018 1:06pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Last 30 could well look like this
Karius
VVD--Lovren--Klavan
Clyne
Wiji
Moreno
Milner---Ox
----TAA----Firmino---Mane

and the last 10
Karius
Clyne---VVD--Lovren--Klavan
TAA-Wiji--Ox--Milner--Mane
Moreno

We should have more than enough to blow them off the pitch in the last 30 so.

not yet · 10-04-2018 1:28pm

Rossi IRL wrote: »

United fan here.

Would like to see City get back level on the scoreboard tonight, even go one ahead. Then for Pool to come back and get a 94th min winner.

Not often, or ever, that I would want Liverpool to win but tonight is one of those nights.

In the words of the Shirley Bassey song..

I love you hate, love you hate you..

munchkin_utd · 10-04-2018 1:33pm

jebidiah wrote: »

We should have more than enough to blow them off the pitch in the last 30 so.

"we" being city I presume ?

I really think the lack of an away goal will come back to haunt city though, even if they blow Liverpool away.
They could well get 3 or 4 goals, but no way in the world are they going to keep a clean sheet.

in the longer term, will pep maybe realise that defence isnt a dirty word, especially as a tool in your box for a 2 legged game where away goals count double (..against you)

Fitz* · 10-04-2018 1:37pm

I'm here just waiting for 6.45 for the team news even though we already know the Liverpool 11.

There's barely enough lads to fill a subs bench!

SlickRic · 10-04-2018 1:48pm

astradave wrote: »

Is Salah fit to start?

We don't know.

yourdeadwright · 10-04-2018 2:11pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Last 30 could well look like this
Karius
VVD--Lovren--Klavan
Clyne
Wiji
Moreno
Milner---Ox
----TAA----Firmino---Mane

and the last 10
Karius
Clyne---VVD--Lovren--Klavan
TAA-Wiji--Ox--Milner--Mane
Moreno

Uv 12 players on the first one

jebidiah · 10-04-2018 2:59pm

munchkin_utd wrote: »

"we" being city I presume ?

I really think the lack of an away goal will come back to haunt city though, even if they blow Liverpool away.
They could well get 3 or 4 goals, but no way in the world are they going to keep a clean sheet.

in the longer term, will pep maybe realise that defence isnt a dirty word, especially as a tool in your box for a 2 legged game where away goals count double (..against you)

.

We being the 12 man team quoted from the previous post.

OwaynOTT · 10-04-2018 3:43pm

Is this on RTÉ tonight?

10-04-2018 3:55pm

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Is this on RTÉ tonight?

TV3

Harry Palmr · 10-04-2018 4:03pm

Fuzzyvision on saornotmuchofaview

alchemist33 · 10-04-2018 4:13pm

As a neutral (who'd really like both to lose!) I'm really looking forward to the game. It's perfectly set up with City having to go all out attack and Liverpool perfectly set to counter. I can see 3-1 to City tonight.

lassykk · 10-04-2018 4:15pm

I really enjoyed the first leg as a neutral. Was seriously impressed by Liverpool

I hope they get the job done tonight but hope it's maybe 4-1 or something like that to keep me entertained.

My OH is a massive Liverpool fan so that will add to my entertainment as well!