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Caterwauling

  • 07-02-2018 7:55pm
    #1
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    MOD NOTE: I've moved most of the "discussion" about the Business Cat comic strip thread here. I'm saying most because I've edited and deleted posts that were, frankly, out of order - I can't be sure I got them all, there was A LOT to read, so I may edit more stuff at a later stage if I spot it.

    THIS IS THE ONLY THREAD THAT SHOULD BE USED FOR DISCUSSING THE BUSINESS CAT COMIC STRIP THREAD.

    Now, here's a quick summary of the forum charter again, READ IT AND FOLLOW IT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T POST.

    1. DON'T BE A DICK. This applies to everyone.
    2. ATTACK THE POST, NOT THE POSTER.
    3. NO BACKSEAT MODERATION - IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CONTENTS OF A POST, PLEASE REPORT IT.
    4. NO MOANING OR BITCHING - THIS INCLUDES NO MOANING OR BITCHING ABOUT WHAT'S CONSIDERED FUNNY OR NOT.
    5. READ 1. AGAIN.

    As Pawwed Rig said:

    Mod note: Regarding the posts below and who posts what, there is nowhere on boards in all the time I have been here that one poster gets priority over another to post a picture and we are not going to set a precedent here.
    What I would suggest is that you identify anyone whose posts you do not wish to see and set them to ignore. This can be done via
    profile settings,
    control panel,
    under settings and options click edit ignore list
    Type in the persons name

    You won't see their posts again.

    With regard to reposts - site wide it is usually first come best dressed. For the purposes of this thread (due to popular demand) reposts won't be deleted.
    Lads its meant to be fun............


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Please don't restart the civil war by posting unrelated cat memes.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 17,800 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Please don't restart the civil war by posting unrelated cat memes.

    We miss you in the SF :(



    :D

    Moderator: Forum Games



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Whats happening here mods?

    Firstly there is no "repost" rule in this thread so why was my post deleted?

    Secondly, you have someone trolling ie cork boy.

    People have expressed their opinion about the thread, he is spoiling the fun that has been running for 3 years as I'm sure most regulars in here would agree but he is being allowed to continue to do so.

    He has been called out a couple of times and a couple of times has said he will refrain from posting yet here he is again.

    That is thread spoiling.

    It's petty, I know, but he is sucking all craic out of the thread and is now being encouraged to do so.

    Load of shyte tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Did business cats post get removed with the new edition and cork boys one was kept?


    Cheap imitations don't get my likes.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 17,800 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Terrible carry on by Cork boy again after being asked by many members to stop

    Moderator: Forum Games



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    MOD NOTE: Attack the post, not the posters.

    <<SNIP>>


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Whats happening here mods?

    Firstly there is no "repost" rule in this thread so why was my post deleted?

    Secondly, you have someone trolling ie cork boy.

    People have expressed their opinion about the thread, he is spoiling the fun that has been running for 3 years as I'm sure most regulars in here would agree but he is being allowed to continue to do so.

    He has been called out a couple of times and a couple of times has said he will refrain from posting yet here he is again.

    That is thread spoiling.

    It's petty, I know, but he is sucking all craic out of the thread and is now being encouraged to do so.

    Load of shyte tbh.

    Mod note: About the duplication, it was a genuine mistake on my part, apologies - I hadn't noticed I had deleted yours, BC, I only saw the duplicate, I'll restore it now.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Mod note: One more thing - as usual, if you have a problem with a post please report it, and we'll look at it. I'm not saying there's no chat here (not at the moment, anyway), but all this isn't making the thread any nicer, I don't think. The rule of not attacking other posters still stand, though.

    As for the rest, we mods will discuss it and we'll post back.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Mod note: Regarding the posts below and who posts what, there is nowhere on boards in all the time I have been here that one poster gets priority over another to post a picture and we are not going to set a precedent here.
    What I would suggest is that you identify anyone whose posts you do not wish to see and set them to ignore. This can be done via
    profile settings,
    control panel,
    under settings and options click edit ignore list
    Type in the persons name

    You won't see their posts again.

    With regard to reposts - site wide it is usually first come best dressed. For the purposes of this thread (due to popular demand) reposts won't be deleted.

    Lads its meant to be fun............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    While I understand and agree with the sentiment of the above post, P, Boards has long had a "spirit of the forum" ethos. Imo CB is flying in the face of that. This thread was started by Business Cat to post his adventures, it's VERY goofy, I know, but that's kind of the point of it, that's part of the "joke" and part of why people get a laugh out of it.

    For the record, I don't expect him to be carded, thread banned or whatever as that would be nonsense, he just doesn't seem to have the awareness that he is being a bit of a dick, which again, is one of the long standing tenants of Boards, ie, don't be one.*


    *I'm aware that we are debating memes about a cartoon cat in a suit and am aware of the ridiculousness of that.

    :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭Doge


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  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Cork Boy


    MOD NOTE: Attack the post, not the posters.
    ***************************************************************************************************

    So I'm trolling by posting a business cat meme in the thread set up for posting business cat memes? Like the mods said, no poster gets priority and like Business Cat (the poster) said, <<SNIP>>.
    I checked this thread on a Friday and saw no new business cat meme posted, so I chipped in in the interest of business cat fans getting their fix asap. If any poster gets upset because someone "beat them to it" on an internet forum dedicated to a cartoon cat, then they seriously need to take a good long hard look at themselves.

    As there have been a number of posts attacking me for posting a business cat meme in the business cat thread, I feel I have a right to defend myself. However, this will be my last post on the matter.

    That does not mean I will refrain from contributing to the thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Half the joke is that the op posting the memes is called business cat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Half the joke is that the op posting the memes is called business cat

    Wow. Sounds hilarious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Cork Boy wrote: »
    So I'm trolling by posting a business cat meme in the thread set up for posting business cat memes? Like the mods said, no poster gets priority and like Business Cat (the poster) said, he is indeed being petty.
    I checked this thread on a Friday and saw no new business cat meme posted, so I chipped in in the interest of business cat fans getting their fix asap. If any poster gets upset because someone "beat them to it" on an internet forum dedicated to a cartoon cat, then they seriously need to take a good long hard look at themselves.

    As there have been a number of posts attacking me for posting a business cat meme in the business cat thread, I feel I have a right to defend myself. However, this will be my last post on the matter.

    That does not mean I will refrain from contributing to the thread.

    You're lack of anything resembling even remote awareness is hilarious tbh.

    People have made their thoughts known on more than one occasion but you are going to continue doing what is rankling people anyway.

    If I need to join the queue to take look at myself then you young man, you NEED to be at the front of that line.

    Good luck to ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Wow. Sounds hilarious.

    Cats are certainly more amusing than Cork people I find :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    Why do you care who posts the latest cartoon , it's not like you have any artistic involvement in the cartoon.

    What if you are on holiday are we supposed to wait two weeks for BC so you can get "the thanks" ?

    The cardinal rule works both ways dude


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,762 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Cork Boy wrote: »
    So I'm trolling by posting a business cat meme in the thread set up for posting business cat memes? Like the mods said, no poster gets priority and like Business Cat (the poster) said, he is indeed being petty.
    I checked this thread on a Friday and saw no new business cat meme posted, so I chipped in in the interest of business cat fans getting their fix asap. If any poster gets upset because someone "beat them to it" on an internet forum dedicated to a cartoon cat, then they seriously need to take a good long hard look at themselves.

    As there have been a number of posts attacking me for posting a business cat meme in the business cat thread, I feel I have a right to defend myself. However, this will be my last post on the matter.

    That does not mean I will refrain from contributing to the thread.

    I love my Friday afternoon postings about the cat’s latest adventures, I don’t watch out for them religiously but when you see it, you go yeah!!. And sure enough, there it was last Friday.

    However, it was somewhat marred by the fact that it was posted by yourself.

    This is Business Cat’s thread. He set it up, he introduced us to him and he even named himself after it.

    I like to think of Boards as a village. Populated by wierd and passionate people, we share our knowledge to whoever wants to know. But like every functioning community, there has to be order and everybody has their place. Mine’s mainly over in Food & Drink. This is Business Cat’s place.

    Maybe you can start your own thread, but with a name like Cork Boy, I can’t for the life of me think of what that would be, sorry! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester


    Everyone is entitled to post what they want (within the rules of course) I guess some of us within this small sub section of boards get a kick out of seeing the Business Cat comic posted by Business Cat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    The last few pages of this thread sum up exactly why this entire website has gone to the dogs. Or cats, to keep it topical.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    So I'm allowed to register an account called "xkcd", post a thread with all the xkcd comics for thanks, and then complain if someone else has the audacity to post one?
    (I'm working off the assumption that Business Cat is not involved in any way in the creation of Adventures of Business Cat - if I'm wrong on that score, then I withdraw my bafflement.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    Ficheall wrote: »
    So I'm allowed to register an account called "xkcd", post a thread with all the xkcd comics for thanks, and then complain if someone else has the audacity to post one?

    BC has been registered since 2012 and has over 12k posts. If you regged as xkcd and butted in, you'd hopefully be treated with the "Don't be a dick" rule and carded.



    Cork Boy is just taking the pee as far as I'm concerned. BC started the thread (not sure if under the same name, but that doesn't matter) and kept the thread running every Friday. That is until CB started posting, then things went downhill. Since then, there has been less comments on Business Cat (the comic) and more on a wannabe wrecking the thread.

    <<SNIP - NO BACKSEAT MODDING>>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,711 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Would agree with the sentiment on thread. Business Cat kicked this off and kept it going and wants to keep it going. Im not sure why cork boy wants to hop on the bandwagon only in the last few weeks, can you not just leave it up to Business Cat who has done it for 3 years now?

    AH response- scratch his eyes out Business Cat ! Then blast him with cat piss !


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Cork Boy


    I suggest people whose enjoyment of these comics is affected by who posts said comics, follow the mods advice and put me on ignore.

    That way, people who want their BC fix asap will get their fix asap, regardless of who posts it.

    I am as entitled to post here as much as anyone else and I will not be run off the forum by childish playground tantrums and bullying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Shame I only found this thread so late. Oh well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Cork Boy wrote: »
    I suggest people whose enjoyment of these comics is affected by who posts said comics, follow the mods advice and put me on ignore.

    That way, people who want their BC fix asap will get their fix asap, regardless of who posts it.

    I am as entitled to post here as much as anyone else and I will not be run off the forum by childish playground tantrums and bullying.

    Genuine question.

    Why do you feel the need to continue doing something that is clearly annoying alot of people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Why do you care who posts the latest cartoon , it's not like you have any artistic involvement in the cartoon.

    What if you are on holiday are we supposed to wait two weeks for BC so you can get "the thanks" ?

    The cardinal rule works both ways dude

    If the thread was being left idle for weeks at a time then this point would hold some water but it was getting updated within a couple of hours of a new strip being released, by myself, since I started it. It's a little corner of boards that some people have been having fun with for 3 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,258 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Cork Boy wrote: »
    I suggest people whose enjoyment of these comics is affected by who posts said comics, follow the mods advice and put me on ignore.

    That way, people who want their BC fix asap will get their fix asap, regardless of who posts it.

    I am as entitled to post here as much as anyone else and I will not be run off the forum by childish playground tantrums and bullying.

    Y'know what, I've stayed out of this for ages, and I really had no opinion either way as I was just enjoying the comics.

    But at this point, it really is you being childish. You know full well that since the thread was created that BC was posting the weekly updates, but in some weird attempt to be edgy, or possibly just out of sheer boredom, you decided to throw that all of in attempt to be cool or something.

    Frankly I don't care if a different person posts it each week, but at this point your attitude is really really childish and kinda sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Greybottle


    Cork Boy wrote: »
    I am as entitled to post here as much as anyone else and I will not be run off the forum by childish playground tantrums and bullying.

    Who exactly is bullying you here?

    People are annoyed, you've been politely asked to stop. Fair enough if you don't want to stop.

    But where exactly is this bullying?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Cork Boy


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Cats are certainly more amusing than Cork people I find :P
    FanadMan wrote: »

    <<SNIP>>
    Muahahaha wrote: »

    AH response- scratch his eyes out Business Cat ! Then blast him with cat piss !
    Greybottle wrote: »
    Who exactly is bullying you here?

    But where exactly is this bullying?

    There you go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 324 ✭✭h0neybadger


    You clearly can't accept that we (the people who come here to view the thread) enjoy that Business Cat is the one who posts these.
    It's a tradition. for the past 3 years.

    And we would like to keep it that way.

    You've turned a fun thread into a complete whine fest for no reason.

    Well done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Cork Boy


    You clearly can't accept that we (the people who come here to view the thread) enjoy that Business Cat is the one who posts these.
    It's a tradition. for the past 3 years.

    And we would like to keep it that way.

    You've turned a fun thread into a complete whine fest for no reason.

    Well done.

    I came here like everyone else to enjoy some business cat on a Friday afternoon and saw none posted. Figuring Business Cat (the poster) was busy or unable to post for some reason, I stepped in and posted. Other people took offense to that and they turned the thread into a whine fest. Ironically, you come along then and add to the whining.

    Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,734 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Can't wait until Friday to see how this pans out


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Cork Boy


    Can't wait until Friday to see how this pans out

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Cork Boy wrote: »
    I'm being a dick for posting business cat cartoons in the business cat thread? Right, gotcha. Of course you're the hero for derailing the thread with your tantrums :rolleyes:

    <<SNIP>>

    You deflected my previous question.

    So again, why are you persisting with doing something that you know is annoying alot of people?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    How about for the next 3 weeks we hold a contest, best of 3 for posting the comic first, winner is the only one to continue posting the comic or be permanently banished.

    side note - if cork boy wins he must change his name to Howard T Business Pug or face banishment.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 17,800 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    How about for the next 3 weeks we hold a contest, best of 3 for posting the comic first, winner is the only one to continue posting the comic or be permanently banished.

    side note - if cork boy wins he must change his name to Howard T Business Pug or face banishment.

    Or... we could just revert back to what had been working perfectly fine for 3 years

    Moderator: Forum Games



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Greybottle


    How about for the next 3 weeks we hold a contest, best of 3 for posting the comic first, winner is the only one to continue posting the comic or be permanently banished.

    How about they both post as usual and the winner is the one with the most likes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭KAGY


    <<SNIP>>If everyone who cared enough just put Cork boy on their ignore list then we wouldn't gave has this stupid back and forth over the last few pages.
    I agree with the mod that nobody has the right to be the sole poster of any type of content, but i also think that cork boy's continuing posting knowing that the followers of this thread don't like it is pure trolling and going against the spirit of the boards community.
    (... I'll be back, have to change to the old site o post a pic >:-\ )
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,723 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I can't decide who I have less sympathy for.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭Vojera


    Anyone looking for drama-free Business Cat postings can go direct to the artist's site here. At least that way he gets some ad revenue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Mods.

    I'd like to apologise for my part in all this bullshyt.

    I'll fully admit I'm being a bit precious about the thread. I started posting the BC strips in the YLYL thread a number of years ago when I came across them as i really enjoyed them, people got a kick out of them so I started this thread to allow people to track it from the beginning and to keep them all in the same place so yes, i do feel a level of ownership about the thread. I started it and have maintained it so i think that much is understandable. Someone in a previous post mentioned that im annoyed about someone else getting the "thanks" for posting. It's nothing to with thanks, if that was all I wanted I'd just post them in the YLYL thread which has a much higher viewership.

    Our own little Business Cat sub community has grown over the years on the back of this thread as is evidenced by peoples responses to cork boy trying to insinuate himself into proceedings but despite repeated requests he is ignoring what the majority want and is continuing to cause derailing of the thread.

    He clearly does not have the wherewithal to see this, perhaps he is trolling, but it's abundantly clear that it's not going to stop which means the thread will continue to be derailed and we will end up with pages of crap like the last page.

    It saddens me a bit that the weekly bit of fun and speculation about what will happen next will have to end as the only feasible option is that a no chat rule be introduced. Otherwise we are going to go around in circles as CB has said he is not going to stop so there is nothing else that can be done.

    That's my final thoughts on the whole thing. It's been a huge amount of fun but unfortunately, like most things with Boards these days, all good things must come to an end due to the actions of the few.

    I'll continue to post the strips as they are released anyway as I'll be damned if I let him ruin that much.

    Best regards,

    BC.

    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    astradave wrote: »
    Or... we could just revert back to what had been working perfectly fine for 3 years

    I wish I found this thread before <<SNIP>>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    First time I've ever made use of the ignore function in 12 years of using the site!

    Keep up the good work Business Cat!


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Cork Boy


    Mods.

    I'd like to apologise for my part in all this bullshyt.

    I'll fully admit I'm being a bit precious about the thread. I started posting the BC strips in the YLYL thread a number of years ago when I came across them as i really enjoyed them, people got a kick out of them so I started this thread to allow people to track it from the beginning and to keep them all in the same place so yes, i do feel a level of ownership about the thread. I started it and have maintained it so i think that much is understandable. Someone in a previous post mentioned that im annoyed about someone else getting the "thanks" for posting. It's nothing to with thanks, if that was all I wanted I'd just post them in the YLYL thread which has a much higher viewership.

    Our own little Business Cat sub community has grown over the years on the back of this thread as is evidenced by peoples responses to cork boy trying to insinuate himself into proceedings but despite repeated requests he is ignoring what the majority want and is continuing to cause derailing of the thread.

    He clearly does not have the wherewithal to see this, perhaps he is trolling, perhaps he has aespergers or similar, but it's abundantly clear that it's not going to stop which means the thread will continue to be derailed and we will end up with pages of crap like the last page.

    It saddens me a bit that the weekly bit of fun and speculation about what will happen next will have to end as the only feasible option is that a no chat rule be introduced. Otherwise we are going to go around in circles as CB has said he is not going to stop so there is nothing else that can be done.

    That's my final thoughts on the whole thing. It's been a huge amount of fun but unfortunately, like most things with Boards these days, all good things must come to an end due to the actions of the few.

    I'll continue to post the strips as they are released anyway as I'll be damned if I let him ruin that much.

    Best regards,

    BC.

    :cool:

    Please delete this part. That's not funny


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Cork Boy wrote: »
    Please delete this part. That's not funny

    It's not an attempt at humour.

    You seem incapable of grasping a most rudimentary aspect of social etiquette despite it being repeatedly spelled out to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭d31b0y


    I'm out...
    Nobody has a monopoly over a comic they didn't have any help creating.
    This is ridiculous. I'll just sign up to the RSS feed.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,261 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    d31b0y wrote: »
    I'm out...
    Nobody has a monopoly over a comic they didn't have any help creating.
    This is ridiculous. I'll just sign up to the RSS feed.

    It was just a bit of fun to be honest. It's sad that Cork Boy couldn't just start another thread for related stuff while this one stuck to speculation and the comic itself so now we have a page of what is basically the antithesis of what the thread was originally intended for, ie a bit of fun.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,503 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's not an attempt at humour.

    You seem incapable of grasping a most rudimentary aspect of social etiquette despite it being repeatedly spelled out to you.
    As someone who has asperger's (ie me) it's also not funny.
    Asperger's/ASD/Autism is not a catch all term. Some people are just jerks, there doesn't need to be a syndrome or diagnosis!

    PS - Keep up the business cat posts :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,660 Mod ✭✭✭✭TrueDub


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Some people are just jerks, there doesn't need to be a syndrome or diagnosis!

    Definitely the most intelligent thing said on Boards for days, if not weeks!


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