Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018 Mod warning post 9350 and 9421

PhlegmyMoses

Klopp is doing a good job irrespective of how much he has spent. But net spend has always been a **** metric. One or two outlying incoming fees skews things massively. Happened when United sold Ronaldo, Liverpools currently includes Suarez and Coutinho (it's why it shows as 4 years as he never played under Klopp). Wages is a better metric imo. Most league tables usually follow the trend of higher wages correlating to league position.

Sofa Spud

Don't think it's that important - Everton have the 3rd highest net spend and look where that got them. We have the 3rd lowest net spend and we're one step from the CL final and qualification for next year.

Also, Utd have outspent us by a factor of 1.35 (£596m v £443m) - the net part is skewed by big value sales. We have only been outspent by City, Utd and Chelsea - no surprises there - and if everything goes well between now and the 26th, not only do we have a nice pot of money available but we can start to expect that we will become a destination team and not a selling team to Barca...

martyos121

MD1990 wrote: »

Yes like paying 400-500k a week for players in wages

Is it not 650k plus bonuses?

ERG89

Strootman & Perotti out for Roma tomorrow night. Both would have started I think.

Yawns

martyos121 wrote: »

Is it not 650k plus bonuses?

At the time of transfer the media was lobbing on a few k every day it seemed.

PhlegmyMoses

rob316 wrote: »

Like what? Its fairly simple math Net Spend = What you sold - What you bought.

Top earners at the other clubs would dwarf Liverpool and Spurs too I'd imagine. Firmino recently made Liverpools highest paid player @ £175k per week. Isn't Sanchez on something ridiculous like 500k?

Liverpool are a lot higher up the wage chain than you'd expect. Most figures normally have them around 200m per year, United, Chelsea and City around 250m. Not insignificant a gap, but not huge either.

Harry Palmr

For the day that's in it*

"net spend friends!"



OR

"net spend ****!"






















the Inbetweeners 10th anniversary!

gimli2112

what always surprises my about transfers is how much money Chelsea get for players. We sold two world class players which hugely inflated the money in but generally players leaving Chelsea are flops, yet they got 50M for Luiz, think they got a very good price for the Brazilian that went to China, how did they take in £450M in 4 years? Maybe they sold a large number of players? Colour me suspicious.

Sofa Spud

gimli2112 wrote: »

what always surprises my about transfers is how much money Chelsea get for players. We sold two world class players which hugely inflated the money in but generally players leaving Chelsea are flops, yet they got 50M for Luiz, think they got a very good price for the Brazilian that went to China, how did they take in £450M in 4 years? Maybe they sold a large number of players? Colour me suspicious.

Agents - making a mess of the game....

TitianGerm

gimli2112 wrote: »

what always surprises my about transfers is how much money Chelsea get for players. We sold two world class players which hugely inflated the money in but generally players leaving Chelsea are flops, yet they got 50M for Luiz, think they got a very good price for the Brazilian that went to China, how did they take in £450M in 4 years? Maybe they sold a large number of players? Colour me suspicious.

Did Chelsea not sell loads of fringe and youth players over the last while?

Sofa Spud

5starpool wrote: »

Keita sent off again, the 4th time this season. Nutcase. I presume any domestic suspension will carry over into next season with us, or will it just apply to the Bundesliga?

Just watching Redmen TV Development Watch and they said that it was just a double booking and so he's only out for one game and will play the last match of the season for them.

Sofa Spud

Great goal for Bayern - nicely played from the back! Come on!

gimli2112

just what I didn't want to see in this year's 2nd legs, goals

noodler

gimli2112 wrote: »

just what I didn't want to see in this year's 2nd legs, goals

Would have thought it'd be better to play bayern.

Sofa Spud

and another - soft one for Benzema

Super-Rush

Roma will hammer either of these in the final.

Real would suit us much better imo. Their defense is open as ****. Keeper is dodge too

Sofa Spud

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Real would suit us much better imo. Their defense is open as ****. Keeper is dodge too

Based on the match so far that could be the case, but I just hate, HATE, watching that Portuguese Poseur

Sofa Spud

Sofa Spud wrote: »

Based on the match so far that could be the case, but I just hate, HATE, watching that Portuguese Poseur

Tbh, if we get through I really wouldn't care too much.

Enjoying this game

mightyreds

Teams a lot better tonight than last week both look dangerous

ShamoBuc

mightyreds wrote: »

Teams a lot better tonight than last week both look dangerous

Both defences look truly awful.

irishguitarlad

From what I'm seeing here if mane, firminho and salah get a run at any of these two defences they would murder them.

niallo27

mightyreds wrote: »

Teams a lot better tonight than last week both look dangerous

Really I'm not seeing it. Two tired teams to me.

mightyreds

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Both defences look truly awful.

Your dead right

ShamoBuc

My god .......awful keeping.

gimli2112

that's what can happen when you don't have a decent keeper..............

Sofa Spud

Not sure Mig or Calamity James could even manage a howler like that...

Harry Palmr

How much did Real Madrid pay him to do that?!

Vicxas

Looks like it's Real in the final

Knex*

Madrid still look like they could put 5 past you in 20 mins though. They're a lot more frightening than Bayern, imo.

Knex*

I'm sick **** of this non celebration, sanctimonious nonsense.

gimli2112

as we get closer to our game suddenly three goals doesn't seem like a huge lead

corwill

Late Ramos og for the lulz.

citytillidie

Knex. wrote: »

I'm sick **** of this non celebration, sanctimonious nonsense.

He is on loan can you think of what would happen if he celebrated

Harry Palmr

I cannot decide which team are better/worse opposition to be honest should libpool qualify for the final

Slattsy

I certainly want Real in the final if we get there.

Blondie919

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I cannot decide which team are better/worse opposition to be honest should libpool qualify for the final

I want Bayern for one reason only. I hate Ronaldo.

sideswipe

Blondie919 wrote: »

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I cannot decide which team are better/worse opposition to be honest should libpool qualify for the final

I want Bayern for one reason only. I hate Ronaldo.

Total passenger tonight.......he’ll probably score in a minute.

J Mysterio

Id rather play Real

Knex*

This game has been a belter. Compared to the first leg anyway.

NukaCola

Real squeeze through again......

Be a great final if we can do the same tomorrow night.......

ShamoBuc

Real were hanging on, big time.

Bayern would be in the final if Robben was playing.


Nothing to fear from Real, their defence is there for the taking.

Hopefully we get there and prove that.

Blondie919

Bayern must be so frustrating to watch. Seconds left in a semi-final...get the ball into the penalty area! What do they do? Fiddle around in the centre circle wasting time!

Turtyturd

sideswipe wrote: »

Total passenger tonight.......he’ll probably score in a minute.

Same last week. Real lack of balls from Zidane to not take him off.

gafferino

Turtyturd wrote: »

Same last week. Real lack of balls from Zidane to not take him off.

Lol.... could you see any manager taking Ronaldo off in the semifinal of the CL in the bernabeau?

Agent Coulson

gafferino wrote: »

Lol.... could you see any manager taking Ronaldo off in the semifinal of the CL in the bernabeau?

Rafa would.


He'd be sacked the next day but he would do it.

Blanco100

To attack Madrid like that you need a foothold in midfield and quick forward passing in tight areas.

I have my doubts we would have as much joy as Bayern did going forward.

Think we would approach it more cautiously. Madrid close the space on opponents very quickly and don't think Henderson and Milner would be able to release Salah, Mane and Firmino as easily as one would think.

Would be a fascinating game against them should we do the business tomorrow night.

Ardent

Bayern were great tonight. So glad to be potentially facing Real.

ShamoBuc

Real wearing on the way to 13 tops after the game.



Hope to fúck whoever gets there rams those tops up their hole.

Turtyturd

gafferino wrote: »

Lol.... could you see any manager taking Ronaldo off in the semifinal of the CL in the bernabeau?

I couldn’t but it could’ve cost them as they were pretty much playing with 10 men over the 2 legs....fortunately for the Bayern were too with Lewandowski up front.