Second hand steel frame for touring bike?

RobFowl

John Hutton wrote: »

Here's something a bit unusual.

https://touch.adverts.ie/mountain-bikes/ktm-v-old-bike-but-immaculate-condition/14949908

Wouldn't touch it. Base spec and very basic heavy frame. Keep looking though you could find a gem.

simo28

My father-in-law has a dawes galaxy sitting in his shed. I'm pretty sure he'd sell it as he rarely cycles it. I'd of nabbed it off him but it's too big. Pm me if you are interested

paul a newman

If you're interested in the hewitt John, it'll be 200E, inc shimano brakes and headset

mh_cork

I'm selling a Claud Butler Dalesman touring bike that is the right size if you are interested. This is a genuine touring bike, similar to Dawes Galaxy.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057852555

RobFowl

You could do a lot worse than this !
Looks pretty much ready to go...

https://www.donedeal.ie/bicycles-for-sale/planet-x-kaffenback-sram-rival-22-road-bike/17371001

John Hutton

Lads, reckoning on a 60cm Dawes Super Galaxy for someone six foot with a 33 inch inseam? Getting mixed advice, ladnin a bike shop today said 58 is what I want, another Inna different bike shop this evening said that given the geometry of that specific bike I should be fine with a 60.

Any opinions?

Miklos

John, I’m 6ft2 and ride a 58. What is the geometry like on the bike?

John Hutton

Miklos wrote: »

John, I’m 6ft2 and ride a 58. What is the geometry like on the bike?

I won't pretend to understand bicycle geometry, but the lad in the bike shop (he wasn't trying to sell me anything I was asking him about a bike I saw elsewhere) said that geometry is a little different on older road bikes and then said something to the effect that onna galaxy I'd find the top tube would be half an inch or so shorter than the seat tube so I'd easily be able to live with a 60cm...

This is all over my head to be honest.!

tjc28

I find the geometry of older bikes different alright. My carbon is 54 but Reynolds 531 is 56 and both are great for me. With seatpost adjustments and maybe stem adjustments it should be grand. Once you can stand over the crossbar comfortably and there's no danger to your bits ðŸ˜

John Hutton

Have started thinking that a new bike may be better...

Have been looking at these three on the bike to work:
Fuji Touring _850
https://www.bikesorbicycles.com/product/fuji-touring/
Adventure flat white £500
http://www.mycycle.ie/Adventure-Flat-White-Touring-Bike-p/rk54160.htm
Ridgeback World Voyage £965
http://www.mycycle.ie/Ridgeback-World-Voyage-Touring-Bike-p/rbb71.htm

Is the extra 400 worth it over the adventure flat White?

Miklos

John Hutton wrote: »

Have started thinking that a new bike may be better...

Adventure flat white £500
http://www.mycycle.ie/Adventure-Flat-White-Touring-Bike-p/rk54160.htm
Ridgeback World Voyage £965
http://www.mycycle.ie/Ridgeback-World-Voyage-Touring-Bike-p/rbb71.htm

Is the extra 400 worth it over the adventure flat White?

These two should be available to view seeing as it's a physical shop, why not go have a look? The Ridgeback does seem to have a better spec, but that's not to say the other wouldn't do the trick.

John Hutton

Miklos wrote: »

These two should be available to view seeing as it's a physical shop, why not go have a look? The Ridgeback does seem to have a better spec, but that's not to say the other wouldn't do the trick.

Yeah I think I'm gonna have to have a day trip in Dublin to suss it all out

Weepsie

You can get a Ridgeback world tour frame for around 450 from Biketart. Reynolds 853, all sizes available. Looks great. Nearly bought one myself but it was over my limit for spending

John Hutton

Weepsie wrote: »

You can get a Ridgeback world tour frame for around 450 from Biketart. Reynolds 853, all sizes available. Looks great. Nearly bought one myself but it was over my limit for spending

https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m2b0s143p2258/SURLY-Long-Haul-Trucker-Frame-and-Forks

This is also very tempting! I promised myself at the outset that I wouldn't go mad spending! Ha

magicbastarder

that ridgeback looks much nicer, both in terms of both price/quality and looks.

https://www.biketart.com/bikes-c1/frames-c33/ridgeback-panorama-deluxe-frameset-p12171

Weepsie

magicbastarder wrote: »

that ridgeback looks much nicer, both in terms of both quality and looks.

this one?

https://www.biketart.com/bikes-c1/frames-c33/ridgeback-panorama-deluxe-frameset-p12171

It's not now available in bigger sizes, but I've found dealing with Biketart recently that they disappear and then come back in stock every few days/weeks in terms of sizes and availability.


Tis a beaut of a frame and I'd be very tempted to get one if it were viable.

magicbastarder

yep, that's the one.

barrymanilow

Hi ,

I was in the same boat , looking for a steel tourer for a tall guy 6 '2 .

Had my eye on a new Kona Sutra or Surly LHT but then i lucked out and found a vintage steel Koga miyata tourer on Done deal for a bargain . I upgraded it as I went and now its got modern parts , bar end shifters , schwlabe tyres etc.

Bike fitting is tricky enough . Frame size number doesn't mean much as one bikes 60cm frame could be very different to another 60cm frame in important ways .

Try find out what the seat tube measurement is and what the actual top tube measurement is . Bring a tape measure .

Mine has a 60cm seat tube but a 58cm top tube . So it is taller than it is long . That suits me as a shorter top tube means your less stretched out and more upright which is what I want for taking it handy and enjoying the view when loaded touring .

My racier bike has a 60cm seat tube and 60cm top tube so its more stretched out which is what I want for a fast bike . But you can tweak a fit with changing the stem . Stems are very cheap . I bought a few before I settled on one that made the bike most comfortable .

Im a 34 inseam . The 60cm seat tubes on my bike suit fine , I have about a fist and a half of seatpost showing.

The seat tube measurement isn't so important it just means more or less of your seat post will show . Its the actual top tube (crossbar ) length which decides how far away the bars will be from the saddle with the stock stem. .

This link shows how to measure

https://youtu.be/B7mPbF0U270

John Hutton

Well mission successful I think, picked up an old Dawes Galaxy today. Frame seems solid although there are quite a few instances of surface rust, nothing anyway serious. Inside of the seat tube is fine.

Have a 2 minute spin and it seems very comfortable and the frame is a perfect size.

May have a go at cleaning off the larger areas of surface rust/discoloration and cover the bare metal with clear nail polish. If I come to really like the bike I may get it powder coated.

Everything works fine so I can use it and upgrade it as I go along.

If anyone is interested I may update this thread as I go along... My only experience with fixing bikes is changing tubes and switching saddles somit will be a bit of a learning experience.

A picture:

https://preview.ibb.co/nMxKE7/IMG_20180418_205742.jpg

barrymanilow

Nice find ,

I have a set of new unused avid cantilever brakes , in the ad section here if your ever looking to upgrade the brakes.

Actually they probably wouldn't work on the narrower fork of your older frame , I'd go with Shimano cx50 if your going to keep cantilever brakes but want a lot better performance .

I had a similar bike , upgrades I made were bar end shifters , brooks saddle ,quill stem adapter so that I could use modern stems and handlebars , new front wheel, tektro brake levers so I could rest hands on the tops , cx50 brakes ,eventually a new drive train and pedals most stuff from chain reaction cycles and put together watching YouTube videos .

Only original parts on the frame now are the deraileurs and rear wheel.

The best upgrade was schwalbe marathon supreme touring tyres , haven't had a puncture in 3 years with them .

John Hutton

Right, after having some unexpected extra cash I've spent the last few days doing up that bicycle I bought, I resprayed it myself (badly) and replaced just about everything on it, except for the brakes, levers and saddle. (They're on the list, along with some dynamo lights). I think I should do the headset too, it's very old although seems smooth enough. But I've no idea how to do that job and select a headset that will fit.

I'll probably end up spending not far off what a new bike would cost, even though I cheaped out on the wheels!!

But having never done anything beyond swapping tires before I've learned a ton and had a blast, even when spending an entire afternoon battling with a extremely stubborn old bottom bracket.

I have an issue though with the tires I bought. I got 35c marathon plus tires. They seem grand but when I went to fit the SKS mudguard set I got I found that there just wasn't enough clearance.

The only thing I can think to do is to switch to a smaller tire. I think the next size down is 32c followed by 28c. Would switching to them give me enough clearance you think?

Picture of bike, mudguards and lack of clearance below. Any input appreciated!

https://ibb.co/i073dJ
https://ibb.co/kv0Zky
https://ibb.co/bDsrXd

cdaly_

If you are switching tyres, I'd suggest Vittoria Voyager Hypers. Much comfier tyre with reasonable puncture protection.

John Hutton

cdaly_ wrote: »

If you are switching tyres, I'd suggest Vittoria Voyager Hypers. Much comfier tyre with reasonable puncture protection.

Look nice and price is good too but only seem to come in 35 and 38 which would leave me with the same problem I have now with clearance for mudguards