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Vacancies at a time of huge demand

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  • 11-04-2018 3:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭


    Last year the council's and the minister trashed the estimates from the census on vacant properties .

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/number-of-vacant-homes-in-dublin-said-to-be-between-900-and-1-000-1.3368771

    They did this by excluding from their calcs vacant council owned property and
    Assuming that the geo directory vacant properties was a better number thus halving the estimate. Then removing any address that might have a business registered and then announcing the figure left 77 properties out of 4956 or 1.7 percent of the original estimate.

    At the same time they were negotiating to buy apartment blocks but only if vacant?
    Below is an article detailing analysis of census data showing vacants are increasing in one particular area.
    Dlr knew this block was 12 percent vacant at this point .
    https://www.dublininquirer.com/2018/04/10/vacancy-watch-a-south-dublin-apartment-complex-thats-emptying-out/

    Apparently they were directly aware that this block represented 20 percent of their estimate total vacants in the whole dlr area.

    What have they done since then ? And are they willing to admit their estimate was rubbish?
    Or do they still insist there's no problem with vacant properties.

    And why is a local paper better able to investigate vacancies than the council or our housing minister.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,807 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The census vacancy numbers were clearly off the wall; the revised down numbers are clearly too small. Neither can be trusted. But its vastly closer to the revised down figure as the census one was that bad


  • Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭bleary


    I'd completely disagree , the cso have no agenda on this.
    They don't care whether the vacants are high and low. The councils deliberately picked methods to reduce the numbers and then publicised that to rubbish the cso numbers.

    If they were actually interested in looking at vacants they could have employed the same methods as the Dublin inquirer. Picked a small area with a high percentage and investigated. Or pulled a sample from the small areas and check against census results.

    I'm aware of large amount of vacants , they are bad for areas , bad for nearby properties, bad for society. Councils won't engage on them. As they degrade they then stall adding them to the derelict sites register and then even when they are nothing is done with them.

    In the article above you can see the vacants in that small area have almost doubled since the census not reduced.
    There are vacant social housing in stillorgan , blackrock etc the council did not include them in their numbers. Why?


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