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Shoes off.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    Only pretentious people ask you to remove your shoes in their house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Only pretentious people ask you to remove your shoes in their house.

    What's pretentious about not wearing shoes in the house?

    It's very refreshing taking off the shoes and letting the feet get some air, not dragging in all kinds of bacteria, plus there is nothing better on a cold day than taking off the shoes and having the underfloor heating warm up the feet as you enter the room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,276 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    to all the heros that will turn around and walk away if someone asks you to remove your shoes, do you think anyone is sad to see you go,

    have some respect for other people, if they ask you remove your shoes, remove them.

    Just because you are 'laid back' and dont really care whether your house is messy or dirty it doesnt mean everyone else is. Fine for you in your own house, not fine in someone elses,

    easy :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I'd do it out of respect (and hope I wasn't wearing my holey socks that day), but probably wouldn't revisit the house again in a hurry.

    I just have a thing about OCD people - I don't feel overly comfortable around them.
    I always wear holy socks. Really black socks, and definitely not very, very, very, very, very, very dark blue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    my3cents wrote: »
    Its simple if I'm expected to take my shoes off I turn around and walk away.

    Lifes to short to bother with people that live in houses that are so clean they won't allow you to wear outdoor shoes inside.

    fair play to you wish i had the ball's to do that, lot of talk about respect to someones house, would respect for the visitor not come into it anywhere.:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,276 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    decky1 wrote: »
    fair play to you wish i had the ball's to do that, lot of talk about respect to someones house, would respect for the visitor not come into it anywhere.:(

    respect in what way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,295 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Cyrus wrote: »
    to all the heros that will turn around and walk away if someone asks you to remove your shoes, do you think anyone is sad to see you go, have some respect for other people, if they ask you remove your shoes, remove them.

    I would say the people are exactly as sad to see them go as they are to go...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,295 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Cyrus wrote: »
    have some respect for other people, if they ask you remove your shoes, remove them.

    What about respect for guests? It's not only hosts who are entitled to respect. This isn't black and white.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    decky1 wrote: »
    lot of talk about respect to someones house, would respect for the visitor not come into it anywhere.:(

    Agree. I'd much rather happy, comfortable guests over a pristine house any day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    What about respect for guests? It's not only hosts who are entitled to respect. This isn't black and white.

    That's grand then, I'll come over and eat all your presses empty and throw your tupperware on the floor because it's in the way. Please respect me as a guest.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    We take off our shoes after coming in the door of the house. We don't ask anyone to do it.
    If there are guests in our house I'd like them to be as comfortable as possible.
    It's amazing the amount of people that just automatically do it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Th e guest I would honour most is the one who takes his or her shoes off without being asked as a simply courtesy, a consideration, and a thanking for the invitation

    Where have simple good manners gone? And appreciation of hospitality?


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    heroics wrote: »
    NNOOOOOOOOOO

    Whats wrong with crocs?

    Extremly comfortable and you can walk outside in them if you need to go to the car, clothesine, garage etc unlike slippers.

    cantdecide wrote: »
    A mate and former colleague used to work doing backoffice admin [long spells sitting and staring at a screen on a large busy floor with no human interaction] and he used to kick off his shoes. One of the managers eventually requested he put his shoes on. There wasn't a dress code or anything like that.

    Its a common enough sight to see people walking around my office in socks and never has anyone had an issue about it, I do it myself from time to time especially if my shoes got wet and I want to put them under a radiator to dry. Some people change into crocs or sandals too around the office. This is all for comfort I should add nothing to do with being afraid of dirt.
    Graces7 wrote: »
    Th e guest I would honour most is the one who takes his or her shoes off without being asked as a simply courtesy, a consideration, and a thanking for the invitation

    Where have simple good manners gone? And appreciation of hospitality?

    What hospitality, you haven't even got in the door yet never mind a cup of tea or a drop of whiskey.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Th e guest I would honour most is the one who takes his or her shoes off without being asked as a simply courtesy, a consideration, and a thanking for the invitation

    Where have simple good manners gone? And appreciation of hospitality?

    Where has old-fashioned Irish hospitality gone - where you'd be offered tea as soon as you were in the door, instead of being told to take your shoes off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Graces7 wrote: »
    The guest I would honour most is the one who takes his or her shoes off without being asked as a simply courtesy, a consideration, and a thanking for the invitation

    Where have simple good manners gone? And appreciation of hospitality?

    Give over. The melodramatics are unreal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Whats wrong with crocs?

    Extrremly comfortable and you can walk outside in them if you need to go to the car, clothesine, garage etc unlike slippers.

    The holes in the crocs are where your dignity leaks out.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Whats wrong with crocs?

    Extrremly comfortable and you can walk outside in them if you need to go to the car, clothesine, garage etc unlike slippers.

    Agreed.
    Best. Invention. Ever.
    You can even wash them in the sink and they're ready to re-wear in minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    decky1 wrote: »
    fair play to you wish i had the ball's to do that, lot of talk about respect to someones house, would respect for the visitor not come into it anywhere.:(

    No sane person would do that. It's not real, he us just being an internet hard man

    Just imagine the scene. It's a child throwing a tantrum.

    Reeeeee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Omackeral wrote: »
    The holes in the crocs are where your dignity leaks out.

    meh, I've got to an age where I'm quite happy to swap some perceived dignity for some actual comfort.

    As a matter of fact I have winter (fleece lined) and summer crocs :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    wexie wrote: »
    As a matter of fact I have winter (fleece lined) and summer crocs :D

    Ok now I want them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Ok now I want them.

    They're great, Lidl does them for cheap and I converted my man too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,295 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    LirW wrote: »
    That's grand then, I'll come over and eat all your presses empty and throw your tupperware on the floor because it's in the way. Please respect me as a guest.

    Whoever suggested strawman argument nonsense like that...

    It's like asking a guest around for tea. And not having any tea. Or milk. Or biscuits.

    The guest made the effort to travel to the host's house. Respect has to come from both to both.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    shoes off at the front door. leave on shoe stand. put on house shoes. keeps the place cleaner :cool:
    It's the norm on the continent too :eek: :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    " the good guest is the one who takes his or her shoes off without being asked as a simply courtesy, a consideration, and a thanking for the invitation"

    Your reading skills are a little skewed :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Whoever suggested strawman argument nonsense like that...

    It's like asking a guest around for tea. And not having any tea. Or milk. Or biscuits.

    The guest made the effort to travel to the host's house. Respect has to come from both to both.

    roflol...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Whoever suggested strawman argument nonsense like that...

    It's like asking a guest around for tea. And not having any tea. Or milk. Or biscuits.

    The guest made the effort to travel to the host's house. Respect has to come from both to both.

    Not a strawman argument at all, every house has basic house rules, like don't let your kids throw my vases off shelves or let it rip books out, some simply don't want people to walk around in shoes in their house, some might have carpet down that would go to the dogs or flooring that doesn't like the shoes or some simply don't like it.

    I don't see why it is so difficult to just respect rules in someone else's house, that's like the first thing I was taught when I was a kid.

    It doesn't bother me when people walk with their shoes on in my gaff but what bothers me is when they walk in and think the place belongs to them now and they can act the absolute maggot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,295 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    LirW wrote: »
    Not a strawman argument at all, every house has basic house rules, like don't let your kids throw my vases off shelves or let it rip books out, some simply don't want people to walk around in shoes in their house, some might have carpet down that would go to the dogs or flooring that doesn't like the shoes or some simply don't like it.

    I don't see why it is so difficult to just respect rules in someone else's house, that's like the first thing I was taught when I was a kid.

    It doesn't bother me when people walk with their shoes on in my gaff but what bothers me is when they walk in and think the place belongs to them now and they can act the absolute maggot.

    Has anyone here suggested the guest should be able to act the absolute maggot though? Not taking off shoes does not equal acting the absolute maggot. There's a world of difference between acting the absolute maggot and questioning particular house rules. And just because of one rule you don't agree with, doesn't give you the right to trash a place, or mean you somehow think the place is your own.

    What if the host, without advance warning, demanded that all people in the house should be naked?

    Maybe you don't meant to, but your words suggest a one way street where the only respect due is to the host.

    So, by the same token, nor should the host be able to act the absolute maggot towards the guest... or place unreasonable arbitrary demands.
    If they are that concerned about guests, then perhaps they just shouldn't have them over; or plan ahead and bring them to one particular room.

    Asking guests to take off shoes - OK.

    Demanding guests take off shoes with no warning, or alternatives provided - not OK in my book.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    The guest made the effort to travel to the host's house. Respect has to come from both to both.
    Graces7 wrote: »
    roflol...


    What?

    You've never told a guest 'thanks for coming?'
    Or thanks for making the effort?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭em_cat


    Omackeral wrote: »
    The holes in the crocs are where your dignity leaks out.

    Crocs with Socks...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    I totally get the rationale behind the need to have a clean, safe and comfortable environment at home. We have floor mats placed at the key entry/exit points (i.e.) one placed outside front door + another outside back door and another located inside both entry/exit doorways. Having floor mats down usually solves most problems although; you will occasionally encounter some problems but it's usually solved by damp cloth/hoover job. I'm not shy about suggesting to visitors to wipe their shoes on the mats provided. If I was to ever ask someone to remove their footwear in advance of entry, it would need to be apparent that they already had thick mud, faeces, chewing gum etc; on the soles of their footwear which I appreciate can and does happen. I've not had the problem all that often thankfully and even if I did, we managed to sort it without too much hassle. We all want people who enter our homes to engage in clean hygiene practises although; common sense must also prevail in certain scenarios.

    Don't be afraid to deny entry if someone is clearly wearing filthy footwear expecting to gain entry automatically without either removing their footwear or putting on protective covers. Just not sure we should apply worst case scenarios to everyone that you choose to invite beyond the hall door is always necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Kids must remove shoes when entering my house. I’ve had way to many of them, totally oblivious to dog poop, or mud on their shoes.

    Also they tend to put their feet up on the couches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Kids must remove shoes when entering my house. I’ve had way to many of them, totally oblivious to dog poop, or mud on their shoes.

    Also they tend to put their feet up on the couches.

    I was often asked as a young child (especially if i was wearing wellies) by a friend's mother to remove them once inside their house which I always had to respect.

    A few years ago, I seem to recall visiting a mate's new house one time and being informed that I would have to remove my shoes before I came into the house and I was not impressed as I had wiped my shoes in the floor mat and there was nothing that would have damaged their flooring as otherwise; I would not have been offended - I was supplied with pair of slippers which I found to be uncomfortable as they had no support at the back and all I wanted to do was leave and although I stayed for a while I felt very uncomfortable during my time in their home. Next time I was invited there I refused to comply as my shoes were fine or I would have left.

    I would only ever ask an adult to remove their footwear once entering my home if it was obvious that they had stepped on something like mud/poop etc; but kids shoes definitely need full visual inspection. Kids can often tend to put their shoes up and if they have buckle straps on boots/sandals etc; it can damage the couch upholstery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭lulu1


    decky1 wrote: »
    Watched a little piece on morning tv about going to someone's house and being expected to take your shoes off,--i went to a friends house a long time ago and when his wife answered the door the first thing she said was 'take off your shoes' now i was'nt in working clothes or boots as i was going out but for some reason i felt a bit offended i thought the cheek of her does she forget where she came from . Anyone else think this is a bit overboard?:mad:[

    I agree with the op that it was a bit over the top to be asked to take off your shoes when visiting friends especially when it's plain to be seen that you are not in working clothes

    But I do agree with taking your shoes of when going into a house if you are covered in mud coming in from the fields or where ever


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    lulu1 wrote: »
    decky1 wrote: »
    Watched a little piece on morning tv about going to someone's house and being expected to take your shoes off,--i went to a friends house a long time ago and when his wife answered the door the first thing she said was 'take off your shoes' now i was'nt in working clothes or boots as i was going out but for some reason i felt a bit offended i thought the cheek of her does she forget where she came from . Anyone else think this is a bit overboard?:mad:[

    I agree with the op that it was a bit over the top to be asked to take off your shoes when visiting friends especially when it's plain to be seen that you are not in working clothes

    But I do agree with taking your shoes of when going into a house if you are covered in mud coming in from the fields or where ever

    Well said - Not unreasonable to ask when it is obvious that someone's footwear are filthy for whatever reason. It's all about exercising a degree of common sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    LirW wrote: »
    They're great, Lidl does them for cheap and I converted my man too.


    I call the Lidl knock-off ones 'Mocs'

    :p


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I'm in shower repair. I've been asked plenty of times to remove my shoes. A tradesman can't do this. It's part of health and safety. Work shoes are part of the safety gear. I'm happy to wear plastic bags but I won't remove my shoes

    This week on 'alternative storylines for classic porn'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    I personally think it's weird.

    Always make sure my shoes are clean, that's what door mats are for at the end of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭by8auj6csd3ioq


    I think I'd just check there was no dog sheite on their shoes before letting them in. I think someone in their manky sweaty socks would be worse.
    Just because you cannot see dog sheite doe snot mean it is all gone. Someone else said do not walk on it on the street but it will have been spread by someone else or rain. It can blind a child


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭AwaitYourReply


    I personally think it's weird.

    Always make sure my shoes are clean, that's what door mats are for at the end of the day.

    Maybe floor mats are no longer the norm in some homes but we have several mats laid down to protect wooden floor/carpets although; if I do see a load of loose stuff coming off footwear on the mat as someone enters, it becomes a case of stop right there message!

    I generally prefer tradesmen to wear protective covers on their boots if working on the house rather than asking them to remove their boots/shoes/sneakers as I realise it can be a health & safety issue for all concerned otherwise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,272 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I have two and only two rules whenever a young lady comes to the house.
    1) Shoes off
    2) Tits out

    Follow my rules and we'll get along great. Simple manners so it is


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭conorhal


    bubblypop wrote: »
    It's normal all over Europe.
    I'm used to it now, shoes off at the front door.
    It's better this way.....

    Because?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭shaunr68


    conorhal wrote: »
    Because?

    You're not treading **** into the house


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    I don’t wear socks however, so that’s awkward.
    (*immediately pictures retro:electro as Christine and the Queens*)
    Malayalam wrote: »
    Take off yer fecking shoes ye dirty divils.

    My floors are always dirty by your standards as we're in the country with lots of mud and cow dirt around, we rarely ever get tummy bugs in my house, only the viral ones from school.

    The bedrooms are a different story, but downstairs in the main room where guests usually call, I couldn't care less.

    I'd take off mine in someone else's house, but like OP I'd have a little vexed moment inside.
    Also like another poster, I feel very uncomfortable and kind of unwelcome in sterile, over-clean and orderly environments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    If people are going to have fussy house rules or if they're gonna follow you around with a mop because of their white tiles, it's not a great incentive to call over again. They can keep it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,566 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Th e guest I would honour most is the one who takes his or her shoes off without being asked as a simply courtesy, a consideration, and a thanking for the invitation

    but that is not the norm in Ireland to be asked to take your shoes off so it is the last thing you think of when entering someone else's home

    The only time I have been asked in my 44 years on this isle to take my shoes off was by a Muslim family when I had to do work in their work provided accommodation which caught me off guard me but I was happy to do so


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Skerries wrote: »
    but that is not the norm in Ireland to be asked to take your shoes off so it is the last thing you think of when entering someone else's home

    The only time I have been asked in my 44 years on this isle to take my shoes off was by a Muslim family when I had to do work in their work provided accommodation which caught me off guard me but I was happy to do so
    Would be a thing in certain places on the continent and Asia

    Was never a cultural thing in Ireland and Britain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Minderbinder


    Growing up down the country in Ireland we didn’t take our shoes off. I guess I was one of the lucky ones that didn’t get e-coil or full blown aids as a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,157 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    If people are going to have fussy house rules or if they're gonna follow you around with a mop because of their white tiles, it's not a great incentive to call over again. They can keep it.

    Totally agree. I don't like a dirty house but I always prefer a house that looks lived in rather than the sterile look of the neat freak house. Come to my home & you are encouraged to put your freak on the coffee table. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,468 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    my3cents wrote: »
    Its simple if I'm expected to take my shoes off I turn around and walk away..

    Yeah sure you do


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