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The Reseeding/Stitching Discussion Thread.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭older by the day


    DJ98 wrote: »
    What do you mean by feed it to its potential?

    That's a point, easy for advisers to talk about 14 tonne of grass yield per year, but that's in a well stocked well managed farm, the good grasses won't be long overtaken by weeds and less productive grasses if you don't keep on top of it, ie. Grazing tight, proper lime and fertilizer, and spraying weeds. I've seen neighbours spend loads on reclaiming and reseeding and then understocking. They should have just stayed inside and watched Scooby doo


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    DJ98 wrote: »
    What do you mean by feed it to its potential?

    Needs fertiliser after every grazing damn near.


  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭raypallas


    cute geoge wrote:
    I have a few fields to reseed old leys,this would be reasonable good land but after the last few wet years ,it tended to be heavy enough this spring and i just about able to graze it without poaching .I can imagine if i plough or power harrow, it will be impossible to graze if we get bad weather as it will be tender for a few years at least and i carry a high stocking rate.Would discing or grass harrow eg pallitine be the best option for me as i want to keep a tough skin ,i am also thinking of giving it a run of a sub soiler .The problem with the power harrow it leaves the top couple of inches very soft ,is this the same story with the discs


    Would you mole plough it, to improve the drainage and then chance your reseeding by power harrow or tine harrow?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    raypallas wrote: »
    Would you mole plough it, to improve the drainage and then chance your reseeding by power harrow or tine harrow?

    Can be done. We did it this year


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,835 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    DJ98 wrote: »
    What do you mean by feed it to its potential?

    Needs fertiliser after every grazing damn near.

    And if not ate out then topper even if toppers don’t do an ideal job. I’ve got a group of 51 gnawing through fields and regrowth is good. Other ground not ate to the stump by forward cattle and doing little compared


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,835 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Reggie. wrote: »
    raypallas wrote: »
    Would you mole plough it, to improve the drainage and then chance your reseeding by power harrow or tine harrow?

    Can be done. We did it this year

    Runs into big money. We’d 2 fields in similar condition 2 years ago. Mole drilled one and if anything it’s doing less this year. Wouldn’t go for it again


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Runs into big money. We’d 2 fields in similar condition 2 years ago. Mole drilled one and if anything it’s doing less this year. Wouldn’t go for it again

    How ya mean doing less? Less growth?

    It's a better alternative than cattle poaching the he'll outta the ground every year. That's why we did it in these spots


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Runs into big money. We’d 2 fields in similar condition 2 years ago. Mole drilled one and if anything it’s doing less this year. Wouldn’t go for it again

    Maybe drains need to go deeper in that field


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,835 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    No it worked well enough the field is dry and doing well just it came at a big comparative cost


  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭FeelTheBern


    Needs fertiliser after every grazing damn near.

    +1 You'd really want to be planning on building up your demand (in terms of stock/silage) and your indexes before your go reseeding. Waste of money unless your going to constantly push the grass with fertiliser and more importantly make use of it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Sami23 wrote: »
    I'd imagine it depends what weeds are present would it not.
    I am going with Underclear as I have Chickweed and Redshank.
    What weeds are in yours ?

    I have chick weed too and got 20 litres of underclear this evening. But noticed then it’s 14 days til you can graze.

    Desperately tight on grass so another two weeks will hurt me. Any shorter alternatives out there,


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Dunedin wrote: »
    I have chick weed too and got 20 litres of underclear this evening. But noticed then it’s 14 days til you can graze.

    Desperately tight on grass so another two weeks will hurt me. Any shorter alternatives out there,

    Tight grazing should sort out the chickweed


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    cute geoge wrote: »
    I have a few fields to reseed old leys,this would be reasonable good land but after the last few wet years ,it tended to be heavy enough this spring and i just about able to graze it without poaching .I can imagine if i plough or power harrow, it will be impossible to graze if we get bad weather as it will be tender for a few years at least and i carry a high stocking rate.Would discing or grass harrow eg pallitine be the best option for me as i want to keep a tough skin ,i am also thinking of giving it a run of a sub soiler .The problem with the power harrow it leaves the top couple of inches very soft ,is this the same story with the discs

    Tbh assuming drainage is ok I find the plough is the only job for ground like that. I went with a heavy disc and set with a one pass and it was the worst thing I could have done should have ploughed it. Ground we ploughed is streets ahead


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Is it safe to do 6 week post emergence spray with the heatwave that’s promised?

    As in spray in the next day or two?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,120 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Collecting a 3mtr one of these tomorrow for my small holding...mad or what
    New toy

    https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/palatine-grass-harrows/18301239


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    wrangler wrote: »
    Collecting a 3mtr one of these tomorrow for my small holding...mad or what
    New toy

    https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/palatine-grass-harrows/18301239
    I'd go with mad.
    Definitely mad!

    Happy harrowing. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    wrangler wrote: »
    Collecting a 3mtr one of these tomorrow for my small holding...mad or what
    New toy

    Well wear! Straight harrow or are u going for electric seeder aswell?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,120 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Muckit wrote: »
    Well wear! Straight harrow or are u going for electric seeder aswell?

    just the harrow. hopefully the quad spreader can be set low enough to sow grass seed,


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    wrangler wrote: »
    Collecting a 3mtr one of these tomorrow for my small holding...mad or what
    New toy

    https://www.donedeal.ie/harrows-for-sale/palatine-grass-harrows/18301239

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Wrangler, Will you be going into competition with reggie?!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Wrangler, Will you be going into competition with reggie?!

    Now now you......behave yourself


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Reseed coming on well considering


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭KingNerolives


    Reseed 4 weeks ago. Some heavy rain straight after seeding but been bone dry since. Should i be worried this heat and lack of rain has damaged it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Reseed 4 weeks ago. Some heavy rain straight after seeding but been bone dry since. Should i be worried this heat and lack of rain has damaged it?

    Them pics above are the same only sown 2 or 3 weeks ago. Has the grass germinated?


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭KingNerolives


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Reseed 4 weeks ago. Some heavy rain straight after seeding but been bone dry since. Should i be worried this heat and lack of rain has damaged it?

    Them pics above are the same only sown 2 or 3 weeks ago. Has the grass germinated?
    Nothing at all


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,411 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Nothing at all

    That might be good. It's more in danger after germinating. If no sign after the next bit of rain then you might be in trouble


  • Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭cacs


    Done my first bit of over seeding today, I wonder will it work. Took bales off it yesterday two runs of the tine harrow. Mixed seed with 10.10.20Spread the seed with wag tail. Another run of tine harrow rolled it. I just wonder will it work

    If you're not in my of the Gobi desert the seed will germinate anyway.
    Whatever the consistency of spread will be when you mixed it with the fert is a different story.
    I think some posters here may have done what you have done though.

    You haven't got as big of risk when you're overseeding as compared to a total reseed anyway.
    Remmeber you were saying my seed would take if I wasn’t in the Gobi desert. I am away on holidays the last two weeks but I believe my reseeding job looks s bit like the gobi desert


  • Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭cacs


    Done my first bit of over seeding today, I wonder will it work. Took bales off it yesterday two runs of the tine harrow. Mixed seed with 10.10.20Spread the seed with wag tail. Another run of tine harrow rolled it. I just wonder will it work

    If you're not in my of the Gobi desert the seed will germinate anyway.
    Whatever the consistency of spread will be when you mixed it with the fert is a different story.
    I think some posters here may have done what you have done though.

    You haven't got as big of risk when you're overseeding as compared to a total reseed anyway.
    Remmeber you were saying my seed would take if I wasn’t in the Gobi desert. I am away on holidays the last two weeks but I believe my reseeding job looks s bit like the gobi desert


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Remmeber you were saying my seed would take if I wasn’t in the Gobi desert. I am away on holidays the last two weeks but I believe my reseeding job looks s bit like the gobi desert

    Feck it anyways.

    You're in the northern half of the country I think?
    Just shows the damage this weather is causing.

    If it's any consolation you've just sat down beside me in this piece of crap of a boat. :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭cacs


    Remmeber you were saying my seed would take if I wasn’t in the Gobi desert. I am away on holidays the last two weeks but I believe my reseeding job looks s bit like the gobi desert

    Feck it anyways.

    You're in the northern half of the country I think?
    Just shows the damage this weather is causing.


    If it's any consolation you've just sat down beside me in this piece of crap of a boat. :(

    I sitting by the pool in Croatia not too bad at all


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