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Raising Caliber limit for deer.

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    #32
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    aaakev wrote: »
    No one has answered my question, who are these people? Do we know??
    It's in my first post:
    Cass wrote: »
    From the Deer Alliance page(same crowd that tried to bring in mandatory hcap).
    Is there something else you are curious about? If you want to know who they are, as in their "credentials", then have a read of this. Specifically post 1 and 248.

    If you want to know the people in the group proposing this then their head/president/CEO/leader is Liam Nolan. Under the link for "Personal Website" is a link to the deer alliance website.

    Lastly if you want to know about them then you can read it on their website, but in short they, or more accurately he, is a private group/company that provides HCAP testing for those that wish to shoot on Coilte land. They have no Government oversight, no funding, and are not a charity.
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    #33
    aaakev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    From what iv heard there are gun dealers involved and if so they should definitely be named. Business would suffer and rightly so. This sport is hard enough and expensive enough to get into already without this kind of bull**** being thrown around


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    #34
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    gunny123 wrote: »
    I would like to know too, but is it a case of the people who know don't want to say in case it lands them in trouble ?
    Not at all. It was in my first post, with a link so i thought it was clear who submitted this.
    Its like everyone knows the faces behind the carry on with the sports coalition, but their names have not been made public here, apart from Paul Walsh's.
    That is slightly different because of the litigious nature of the person(s) involved. Even if a suit had no merit most people don't want the hassle, cost of a court case and so it's the silencing of opposition arguments by means of the fear of possible financial ruin.
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    #35
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    aaakev wrote: »
    From what iv heard there are gun dealers involved and if so they should definitely be named. Business would suffer and rightly so. This sport is hard enough and expensive enough to get into already without this kind of bull**** being thrown around
    From the so called coalition? Yes. There are at least two, possibly three involved. However as this proposal is from or at least appearing to be solely from the deer alliance i did not see need to mention the so called coalition.
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    #36
    aaakev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Cass wrote: »
    It's in my first post:

    Is there something else you are curious about? If you want to know who they are, as in their "credentials", then have a read of this. Specifically post 1 and 248.

    If you want to know the people in the group proposing this then their head/president/CEO/leader is Liam Nolan. Under the link for "Personal Website" is a link to the deer alliance website.

    Lastly if you want to know about them then you can read it on their website, but in short they, or more accurately he, is a private group/company that provides HCAP testing for those that wish to shoot on Coilte land. They have no Government oversight, no funding, and are not a charity.

    I read through their website when you first posted but was none the wiser. Couldn't find anything on the cro either so was just curious as to who the hell this group is made up of.
    Cass wrote: »
    From the so called coalition? Yes. There are at least two, possibly three involved. However as this proposal is from or at least appearing to be solely from the deer alliance i did not see need to mention the so called coalition.

    Ah maybe i'm getting confused here, i thought they were all the one.... if a dealer i used was part of the group i would stop using them and i know plenty of others that would too. thats what i was getting at


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    #37
    wirehairmax
    Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭wirehairmax


    Liam has a fan😂
    “Liam has changed the way we now manage one of our most prized natural assets .In Ireland we now have a syllabus of training for the management of Deer on a par with any other in Europe . We have education , training and testing. We cannot say just how important Liams contribution to Deer stalking has been , but we can say he has erased generations of poor sportsmanship , he has saved the tradition and profession of Deer stalking from the hands of misguided and reckless amateurs, and reintroduced measured study, respect and admiration for this great species.”

    Reckless amateurs!!!


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    #38
    gunny123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭gunny123


    wirehairmax wrote: »
    Liam has a fan😂
    “Liam has changed the way we now manage one of our most prized natural assets .In Ireland we now have a syllabus of training for the management of Deer on a par with any other in Europe . We have education , training and testing. We cannot say just how important Liams contribution to Deer stalking has been , but we can say he has erased generations of poor sportsmanship , he has saved the tradition and profession of Deer stalking from the hands of misguided and reckless amateurs, and reintroduced measured study, respect and admiration for this great species.”

    Reckless amateurs!!!


    Modest sort of lad isn't he ?


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    #39
    meathstevie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    On a par with the rest of Europe..lol. If the German hunter certification would be a degree course than the HCAP is like graduating from Montessori....


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