Cork developments

Mav11 · 12-05-2021 1:21pm

Pandiculation wrote: »

There are a few other examples of reuse of the same street name in Cork. The council should tidy it up.

Also while I’m on the topic of crazy stuff, the use of house names and no numbers in quite a few areas of this city is bonkers. How An Post ever allowed it to happen in fairly densely populated streets is beyond me. It’s also not snobbery where people replace numbers with house names, but you just have no numbering at all in some of the older parts of the city.

An Post has no authority in this area. All these legacy issues with non unique addresses etc. is the problem that Eircode has to a large extent sorted out.

Pandiculation · 12-05-2021 1:45pm

Mav11 wrote: »

An Post has no authority in this area. All these legacy issues with non unique addresses etc. is the problem that Eircode has to a large extent sorted out.

To a point, but the whole laissez faire approach to assigning house numbers is down to the council. We have three different houses all claiming to be number 8 on my street because some people count 1,2,3 along the left and loop back down the other side. Some people are using the site numbers that were on some map and others are using the chronological order the houses were built in. Others don’t use them at all. Some have house names one or two seem to just use family name & street.

Google maps seems to have settled on some kind of standard but the whole thing is utterly daft.

I’ve had discussions with neighbours as we are constantly getting post for other people and confused couriers because someone keeps correcting Google maps to a weird and illogical numbering regime that isn’t even sequential lol

Treehelpplease · 12-05-2021 2:09pm

Eircodes should fix that though no?

Justin Credible Darts · 12-05-2021 4:37pm

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Extremely popular with Bishopstown residents. I lived beside for it a few years and it was very handy.

I am biased in that i used to deliver to that store many moons ago and it was a complete nightmare.

Up there with the dunnes of north main street as an absolute curse for deliveries

Pandiculation · 12-05-2021 4:39pm

Treehelpplease wrote: »

Eircodes should fix that though no?

Not when the postman doesn't read them. They just go from the top line of the address and we seem to keep changing postman too. It's largely sorted them out for packages, although you get the odd courier insisting that they have the right address when they're way off due to the Google maps errors / endless changes caused by someone resubmitting corrections.

The other issue we get is people who just can't read maps. So, quite regularly if I use eircode, you'll get something like a pizza delivery guy going to the house directly behind me, which is actually not even on the same street. It's not Eircode's fault, but it would be avoided if the addresses weren't so daft.

Anyway, it's not to derail the thread but it's just somewhat typical of the chaotic way stuff is done in this city.

With the roads that were severed or changed, they really should prefix or suffix them with "Upper / Lower" or "Old" or something like that.

I don't think you can really change the name of an established road, but you can definitely add something to it to distinguish between two unconnected parts.

marno21 · 12-05-2021 6:25pm

Two new SHDs today:

276 units (137 houses + 139 apartments) at Ardarostig, Waterfall Road, Bishopstown. https://ardarostigplanning.ie/ (SHD previously refused here). Application

164 units (147 houses + 17 apartments) at Courtstown, Little Island. Consultation so no website.

beer enigma · 14-05-2021 11:34am

Anyone know what's planned for the hoarded off site just past the CSO on the left heading towards Mahon point.

I know they knocked some sort of factory there years ago and are using it as a car park, but I saw there was a large pile driving machine drilling there yesterday.

Mefistofelino · 14-05-2021 12:29pm

beer enigma wrote: »

Anyone know what's planned for the hoarded off site just past the CSO on the left heading towards Mahon point.

I know they knocked some sort of factory there years ago and are using it as a car park, but I saw there was a large pile driving machine drilling there yesterday.

It was (and still may be) a JCD site. I think they parked it while they were working on Albert Quay and moving on to the Sextant as they only seem to deal with one large project at a time. With the Sextant on the long finger, maybe they are turning their attention back to this.
The original plan was for three office blocks, IIRC and JCD went back to the Council for permission to change one block to apartments, which was rejected.

snotboogie · 14-05-2021 1:02pm

Mefistofelino wrote: »

It was (and still may be) a JCD site. I think they parked it while they were working on Albert Quay and moving on to the Sextant as they only seem to deal with one large project at a time. With the Sextant on the long finger, maybe they are turning their attention back to this.
The original plan was for three office blocks, IIRC and JCD went back to the Council for permission to change one block to apartments, which was rejected.

Yep I think they announced that they were starting a few months before lockdown. Bit disappointed if this is going ahead of Albert Quay

hot buttered scones · 14-05-2021 1:28pm

Shedite27 wrote: »

I used to love Pizzaland
https://twitter.com/RandomCorkStuff/status/754401934090629124/photo/1

I worked in that Burgerland for a few years. Saturday nights were absolute mayhem

fonecrusher1 · 15-05-2021 12:07pm

I knew a lad who worked in Victoria hotel many years ago. He said some of the rooms occasionally had occupants complaining of certain supernatural occurrences and some hotel staff refused to go into one or two particular rooms to clean up. :eek:

whisky_galore · 15-05-2021 3:28pm

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

I knew a lad who worked in Victoria hotel many years ago. He said some of the rooms occasionally had occupants complaining of certain supernatural occurrences and some hotel staff refused to go into one or two particular rooms to clean up. :eek:

Yeah right.

the beer revolu · 15-05-2021 3:48pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Yeah right.

Most hotels in old buildings have these stories.

The Maldron being one.
No doubt The imperial and metropole have their ghosts, too. Haven't heard about those ones, though.

whisky_galore · 15-05-2021 4:56pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

Most hotels in old buildings have these stories.

The Maldron being one.
No doubt The imperial and metropole have their ghosts, too. Haven't heard about those ones, though.

If you set out expecting one then you will "see" or sense one. Stories are all they are. I really don't know why people are more scared of stories than being attacked by a real, living scumbag. I've yet to hear of anyone hurt by a ghost.

namloc1980 · 15-05-2021 5:45pm

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Are they going to put up barriers to protect the new cycle lane on South Mall? If not it's just going to turn into a car park.

15-05-2021 6:08pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

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Are they going to put up barriers to protect the new cycle lane on South Mall? If not it's just going to turn into a car park.

Is it signposted, etc?

namloc1980 · 15-05-2021 8:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it signposted, etc?

No idea. But signposts are about as useful as a chocolate fireguard as we know well from the abuse of the cycle lane at Alfred Street by motorists. The was until actual physical separation was put in place.

15-05-2021 10:33pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

No idea. But signposts are about as useful as a chocolate fireguard as we know well from the abuse of the cycle lane at Alfred Street by motorists. The was until actual physical separation was put in place.

As the torn up tickets outside Con show, signage is everything

namloc1980 · 15-05-2021 10:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

As the torn up tickets outside Con show, signage is everything

Signage didn't stop widespread abuse of Alfred Street by motorists. Enforcement is key. All the signs in the world are useless without enforcement or physical segregation.

15-05-2021 11:02pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

Signage didn't stop widespread abuse of Alfred Street by motorists. Enforcement is key. All the signs in the world are useless without enforcement or physical segregation.

What I'm saying is that enforcement is not possible without correct signs.
And, if there are not signs, it's not a bike lane

I'm just asking a question because the image doesn't show

Mardyke · 16-05-2021 1:16am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What I'm saying is that enforcement is not possible without correct signs.
And, if there are not signs, it's not a bike lane

I'm just asking a question because the image doesn't show

Signposts? Saying what?

"This way if you're a Dickh-ead" ?

16-05-2021 8:38am

Mardyke wrote: »

Signposts? Saying what?

"This way if you're a Dickh-ead" ?

What's your problem?

Mav11 · 16-05-2021 8:54am

hot buttered scones wrote: »

I worked in that Burgerland for a few years. Saturday nights were absolute mayhem

Is that the sign for CoCo's in the 2nd window from the left? Happy days!!

Mardyke · 16-05-2021 9:12am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's your problem?

My problem is with entitled pricks that need a signpost to tell them not park on a cycle lane that has been put in to keep people safe.

My problem is that people are so lazy and ignorant these days that they couldn't care less if a kid (or anyone) died because of their illegal parking.

What's your problem?

greedygoblin · 16-05-2021 9:18am

Mardyke wrote: »

My problem is with entitled pricks that need a signpost to tell them not park on a cycle lane that has been put in to keep people safe.

My problem is that people are so lazy and ignorant these days that they couldn't care less if a kid (or anyone) died because of their illegal parking.

What's your problem?

What cork_exile is saying is that without signposts enforcement is not possible from a legal perspective. Hence the comment earlier about the torn up tickets...

cantalach · 16-05-2021 9:40am

On the subject of the physically segregated cycle paths that have been developed over the last year, a problem is starting to become apparent. Most of them are starting to accumulate a lot of debris that is kicked in by passing motor vehicles. The use of road sweepers in the main traffic lanes exacerbates the problem. Some stretches are already unusable puncture minefields. Putting in cycling infrastructure requires a commitment to regular maintenance and sweeping, i.e. it needs ongoing op-ex as well as the initial cap-ex. I'm not sure Cork City Council gets this.

16-05-2021 9:49am

Mardyke wrote: »

My problem is with entitled pricks that need a signpost to tell them not park on a cycle lane that has been put in to keep people safe.

My problem is that people are so lazy and ignorant these days that they couldn't care less if a kid (or anyone) died because of their illegal parking.

What's your problem?

People ignoring the law, to suit their own agendas.

If it's not adequately labelled then it's NOT a cycle lane.
If it is then we have an issue with enforcement.

You can't choose which part of the law you wish to follow

16-05-2021 9:51am

cantalach wrote: »

On the subject of the physically segregated cycle paths that have been developed over the last year, a problem is starting to become apparent. Most of them are starting to accumulate a lot of debris that is kicked in by passing motor vehicles. The use of road sweepers in the main traffic lanes exacerbates the problem. Some stretches are already unusable puncture minefields. Putting in cycling infrastructure requires a commitment to regular maintenance and sweeping, i.e. it needs ongoing op-ex as well as the initial cap-ex. I'm not sure Cork City Council gets this.

The red and yellow road marking grit has caused more spills than one could count, when the excess collected at the edges

boardise · 16-05-2021 10:10am

TheChizler wrote: »

Is there a problem to solve though? I've never found it confusing, maybe people do initially. I think changing street names is much more confusing. Anglesea Street is up for a name change, bit of a populist move that noone was calling for IMO. Soon you'll have the Anglesea St Garda amd fire station but no Anglesea St.

I'm all against this tampering with long established placenames that have historical resonance.
There are new developments constantly coming along that can be used to mark people or events of significance but please let the old ones be.

Mav11 · 16-05-2021 10:17am

boardise wrote: »

I'm all against this tampering with long established placenames that have historical resonance.
There are new developments constantly coming along that can be used to mark people or events of significance but please let the old ones be.

I agree. Was there not a movement a few years ago by those with a republican bent to change all placenames with a British connection e.g. Victoria Rd?

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