Cork developments

polaris68

I thought development had started at the Carmelite Place site across from the Sacred Heart church. However, it looks like the Council are just using it as a depot for works that have started over on Sundays Well.

marno21

Water Rock infrastructure plans approved:

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/New-road-rail-and-water-services-plan-could-lead-to-525-new-houses-around-Midleton-c2981846-8fb5-45cc-a5a2-32a6f53edb97-ds

janfebmar

kuro2k wrote: »

A lot of traffic entering the city is simply crossing the river due to a lack of a ring road around the city. Another factor is the number of schools located in the city center, the drop in traffic congestion is really noticeable during school holidays.

Private companies simply do not offer free employee parking unless you are very senior management. For public bodies it seem to be a right.

Cannot see that changing any time soon.

hans aus dtschl

marno21 wrote: »

Water Rock infrastructure plans approved:

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/New-road-rail-and-water-services-plan-could-lead-to-525-new-houses-around-Midleton-c2981846-8fb5-45cc-a5a2-32a6f53edb97-ds

I'm surprised by that.
I submitted on the original scheme, heard nothing whatsoever about the change of plans and heard nothing whatsoever about the approval.

Edit: nothing whatsoever on the website either:
https://www.corkcoco.ie/public-consultation-part-8s

ofcork

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

I saw a couple of lads poking around in old Specsavers on Cook Street today. I wonder if a new tenant is lined up.

All being bought up by penneys for their expansion.

marno21

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cork-city-must-change-or-risk-irrelevance-says-outgoing-head-of-planning-911337.html

What a man. All the best to him on his retirement after all he has done for Cork going forward.

marno21

Plans for Tivoli redevelopment are ploughing on

https://twitter.com/TyrensUK/status/1107682635126657027?s=19

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Are those going to be crossriver ferry stations? Blackrock etc

janfebmar

ofcork wrote: »

All being bought up by penneys for their expansion.

Be great to see a bit more re-development, Cook st used to be a busier street once.

snotboogie

marno21 wrote: »

Plans for Tivoli redevelopment are ploughing on

https://twitter.com/TyrensUK/status/1107682635126657027?s=19

Tweet seems to be down

marno21

First taste of bus improvements in Cork has been published with the Wilton Corridor Phase 1, Dennehy's Cross-Wilton Gardens

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/owners-mobilise-over-wilton-road-plans-911784.html

Shedite27

snotboogie wrote: »

Tweet seems to be down

Their site still has the news article
https://www.tyrens-uk.com/en/news/news/tyr%C3%A9ns-appointed-to-develop-masterplan-for-port-of-cork-company/

Here's the original picture:

j8wk2feszrnpao

marno21 wrote: »

First taste of bus improvements in Cork has been published with the Wilton Corridor Phase 1, Dennehy's Cross-Wilton Gardens

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/owners-mobilise-over-wilton-road-plans-911784.html

Always going to be some opposition, but the lack of details on the initiative would be a concern.

AugustusMinimus

Shedite27 wrote: »

Their site still has the news article
https://www.tyrens-uk.com/en/news/news/tyr%C3%A9ns-appointed-to-develop-masterplan-for-port-of-cork-company/

Here's the original picture:

Are they planning a river ferry? Could build a hub beside the train station which is the furthest upstream it could be due to bridges.

olearydc

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Always going to be some opposition, but the lack of details on the initiative would be a concern.

Agree. Some of those houses have parking for a number of cars and they can swing around and turn before going on to the main road. It's been reported that they are looking to remove 4 to 7 meters with is 13-22 feet, which is a massive chop off a front garden

It's going to be a big issue for people not to reverse out onto the main road if they can't swing around, I can't imagine trying to reverse in on that busy road

AugustusMinimus

olearydc wrote: »

Agree. Some of those houses have parking for a number of cars and they can swing around and turn before going on to the main road. It's been reported that they are looking to remove 4 to 7 meters with is 13-22 feet, which is a massive chop off a front garden

It's going to be a big issue for people not to reverse out onto the main road if they can't swing around, I can't imagine trying to reverse in on that busy road

The pharmacy by Dennehys cross is going to lose its entire car park.

j8wk2feszrnpao

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

The pharmacy by Dennehys cross is going to lose its entire car park.

I think there's parking at the rear as well.
Not sure if they could run a parallel road behind the houses for residents to access rear house parking, esp with the sports grounds there.
Without any drawings, tough to gauge the situation.

marno21

The pharmacy car park looks ok to me - it seems most of the landtake there is on the other side of the road including the very front of the church car park.

The right turn from the Wilton Road inbound to the Magazine Road has been removed - some people won't be happy about that.

Tomtom364

olearydc wrote: »

Agree. Some of those houses have parking for a number of cars and they can swing around and turn before going on to the main road. It's been reported that they are looking to remove 4 to 7 meters with is 13-22 feet, which is a massive chop off a front garden

It's going to be a big issue for people not to reverse out onto the main road if they can't swing around, I can't imagine trying to reverse in on that busy road

the cycle and bus lanes would give a bit of a buffer there to reverse out, or even better to pull up outside your house and reverse in.

but looking at the google images, most houses would still have enough space to turn around in drive if they wanted to.

The road is a crucial transport corridor in the city, I can empathise with the people living there but it has been obvious for a very long time that eventually that road would need to be upgraded.

AugustusMinimus

marno21 wrote: »

The pharmacy car park looks ok to me - it seems most of the landtake there is on the other side of the road including the very front of the church car park.

The right turn from the Wilton Road inbound to the Magazine Road has been removed - some people won't be happy about that.

Maybe in an effort to improve throughput at the junction. Right turns hugely reduce capacity.

marno21

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Maybe in an effort to improve throughput at the junction. Right turns hugely reduce capacity.

Definitely to remove the need for a right turn lane - space wise - and it helps with the traffic light sequence - but I can see there being objections to the removal of the right turn, there aren't too many alternative routes given it connects to both College Road and Magazine Road

AugustusMinimus

marno21 wrote: »

Definitely to remove the need for a right turn lane - space wise - and it helps with the traffic light sequence - but I can see there being objections to the removal of the right turn, there aren't too many alternative routes given it connects to both College Road and Magazine Road

Can access via Wilton and the Glasheen Road.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Are they planning a river ferry? Could build a hub beside the train station which is the furthest upstream it could be due to bridges.

That's what I was wondering. Anyone know if those are planned River ferry stations? That'd be brilliant!!

namloc1980

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

That's what I was wondering. Anyone know if those are planned River ferry stations? That'd be brilliant!!

Looks more like a concept/masterplan than firm or detailed plans.

TheChizler

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

The pharmacy by Dennehys cross is going to lose its entire car park.

The full plans for that phase are in the council website. Only a metre or two is needed.

https://consult.corkcity.ie/en/system/files/materials/473/D03%20Layout%20and%20Land%20Acquision%20WCP%20P1_0.pdf

j8wk2feszrnpao

TheChizler wrote: »

The full plans for that phase are in the council website. Only a metre or two is needed.

https://consult.corkcity.ie/en/system/files/materials/473/D03%20Layout%20and%20Land%20Acquision%20WCP%20P1_0.pdf

Looks like it's the West side of Wilton road that'll be most affected, and just from the Wilton Gardens road to Dennehys Cross in Phase1.
Good to see them relocate the bus stop outside the college accommodation up slightly to the new bus lane after Dennehys.

hans aus dtschl

namloc1980 wrote: »

Looks more like a concept/masterplan than firm or detailed plans.

It's extremely hopeful IMO.

And even then, I'd have liked to see two train stations in this plan. A good chunk of the site is over 500m from the proposed station.

Perhaps one station on the West could also service Silversprings and a larger Park & Ride station could be built on the east of the site, west of the Dunkettle Roundabout. I don't think a Park & Ride train station 1km west of Little Island station makes any sense.

namloc1980

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

It's extremely hopeful IMO.

And even then, I'd have liked to see two train stations in this plan. A good chunk of the site is over 500m from the proposed station.

Perhaps one station on the West could also service Silversprings and a larger Park & Ride station could be built on the east of the site, west of the Dunkettle Roundabout. I don't think a Park & Ride train station 1km west of Little Island station makes any sense.

We've seen so many masterplans come and go in Cork that I am taking all these nice and shiny schematics with a massive pinch of salt.

In particular the river taxi looks like compete fantasy. Can't see the demand and those things are actually quite expensive to run (insurance/maintenance etc) and therefore the end user tickets will be relatively high. It's the kind of thing you see on these masterplans that never translate into reality.

Olivia Pope

Anyone know if the largest new houses in Crawf*rd Woods are selling. €595,000 for 2075 sq feet. Very overpriced IMO. Is there going to be a price correction on houses in this price bracket in the next few years?

j8wk2feszrnpao

Olivia Pope wrote: »

Anyone know if the largest new houses in Crawf*rd Woods are selling. €595,000 for 2075 sq feet. Very overpriced IMO. Is there going to be a price correction on houses in this price bracket in the next few years?

It wasn't Crawford Woods, but I do know a couple that sold up to move into a similar priced house; so I reckon those houses will sell, hopefully freeing up other accommodation for sale.
With current levels of supply, it's a while before price correction.