Cork developments

Water John

In the short/medium term the house value may drop. This will allow the owner to offset the compensation and pay not tax on it, possibly.

snotboogie

Apogee wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Planners-say-yes-to-overhaul-of-Merchants-Quay-8304b917-18c1-4059-a5b2-e262346dbfcd-ds

Hopefully something will get done now. Worst major building in Cork City imo

Markcheese

igCorcaigh wrote: »

With all this planned development in the docklands area, I wonder if the planners are taking future sea level rise into account.

https://choices.climatecentral.org/#16/51.8968/-8.4656?compare=scenarios&carbon-end-yr=2100&scenario-a=unchecked&scenario-b=extreme-cuts

Apparently yes, a guy in the planning department told me 5 or 6 years ago that the city centre will be totally swimming before the docklands gets wet...

ScrubsfanChris

New video Penrose Dock: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6537360069791748096

fonecrusher1

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

New video Penrose Dock: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6537360069791748096

I like that. Looks smart

ScrubsfanChris

The lovely new Tramore Valley Park....





You can physically see where the money ran out.

Its a complete mess beyond the car park/entrance (pitches look nice to be fair) where almost nothing has been done.
Looks like a halting site compared to albeit smaller Ballincollig park.

chalkitdown1

Yeah I was there myself today. The entire South side beyond the recycling centre is clearly unfinished. It's a mess.

I had two different sets of kids come up to me and ask where the playground was. They looked so disappointed when I told them there wasn't one. What were they thinking making a huge park like that without a play area for kids.

namloc1980

That looks brutal. Can't believe they've opened it to the public in that state.

marno21

Public consultation on the Docklands road network improvements

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/City-Hall-begins-consultation-on-new-Cork-Docklands-road-network-11423e1c-840a-46d1-8558-604cb337c826-ds

Funding for this is secure under LIHAF afaik.

snotboogie

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

The lovely new Tramore Valley Park....





You can physically see where the money ran out.

Its a complete mess beyond the car park/entrance (pitches look nice to be fair) where almost nothing has been done.
Looks like a halting site compared to albeit smaller Ballincollig park.

I popped in yesterday, couldn’t believe how bad it was. Serious, serious work needed

whisky_galore

snotboogie wrote: »

I popped in yesterday, couldn’t believe how bad it was. Serious, serious work needed

Could have done without the new bridge for funding this instead. Sure I'll be told something funds, something something ringfenced, something something cycling.

namloc1980

whisky_galore wrote: »

Could have done without the new bridge for funding this instead. Sure I'll be told something funds, something something ringfenced, something something cycling.

What does this mean??

Cork Boy 53

snotboogie wrote: »

I popped in yesterday, couldn’t believe how bad it was. Serious, serious work needed

Most likely nothing going to be done any time in the forseeable future.

MrDerp

marno21 wrote: »

Public consultation on the Docklands road network improvements

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/City-Hall-begins-consultation-on-new-Cork-Docklands-road-network-11423e1c-840a-46d1-8558-604cb337c826-ds

Funding for this is secure under LIHAF afaik.

I must say I like the contra flow bus lane route, it should help bus 202 movements considerably if they’re gonna go this way instead of via Marina Terrace.

I can see some local objections though as the scheme digs further up Victoria rd and black rock rd with some Garden loss.

whisky_galore

namloc1980 wrote: »

What does this mean??

All the reasons why we so desperately needed a superfluous bridge while a worthy facility is in the making for an eternity.

namloc1980

whisky_galore wrote: »

All the reasons why we so desperately needed a superfluous bridge while a worthy facility is in the making for an eternity.

If you read the city council budget you'll find that the budget allocation for the park is substantially higher than what was provided for the bridge. So your assertion that somehow the park suffered due to funding being directed to the bridge is false I'm afraid. Also not sure why you mentioned cycling earlier. The vast majority of transport capital spending by the city council is on roads, many multiples more than is spent on cycling.

Roger Hassenforder

Wife brought the kids with their scooters to the park. Left about 30mins and went to Ballincollig instead.

opus

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Yeah I was there myself today. The entire South side beyond the recycling centre is clearly unfinished. It's a mess.

I had two different sets of kids come up to me and ask where the playground was. They looked so disappointed when I told them there wasn't one. What were they thinking making a huge park like that without a play area for kids.

I cycled out there for a look today & took a jog around the 5k loop. There is a small playground (well just a climbing frame pretty much) a little beyond the recycling centre.

Not having the entrance on Half Moon Lane open adds ~3k each way if you're trying to get there on foot/cycling from the city centre. Real shame if the place just revolves around using a car.

I cycled via Turners Cross and as I went across the Link Road saw a few people walking out the gate towards the road, didn't see which way they went then.

Any ideas why the English version of the sign is all in UPPERCASE?

Oafley Jones

opus wrote: »

Any ideas why the English version of the sign is all in UPPERCASE?

Standard guidelines for every state sign. Italic lowercase Irish on top with Uppercase English below. Look at the all the road signs etc etc.

daithi7

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Standard guidelines for every state sign. Italic lowercase Irish on top with Uppercase English below. Look at the all the road signs etc etc.

How dumb to communicate with a minority 1st and the majority 2nd....

On every sign in t the state!!

Typical gaelge bull!!

daithi7

daithi7 wrote: »

How dumb to communicate with a minority 1st and the majority 2nd....

On every sign in t the state!!

Typical gaelge bull!!

Heaven forbid we try the smallest effort to undo a cultural genocide

blindsider

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Standard guidelines for every state sign. Italic lowercase Irish on top with Uppercase English below. Look at the all the road signs etc etc.

...and they couldn't even get that right - the Irish part is not in italics!!

olearydc

questionmark? wrote: »

Yes. Compensation, most likely very generous, would be part and parcel of these type of schemes. Mr Homeowner can also take into account the value of his house will increase with good public transport on his door step.

Thats true. But Mr Homeowner will be losing 20 feet in some instances with average of 10 feeet for most. Can mean total loss of car parking spaces or big reductuon of their front space. its not like a estate where people can park on the road, there will be no parking for their visitors and family members. It is easy to say that they will "maybe" get good public transport but is also true to say that their amenities are being taken away through no fault of their own.

The value will go down with every lost parking space

They have a right to state their annoyance of a plan that is going to cause them problems down the lane

whisky_galore

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Heaven forbid we try the smallest effort to undo a cultural genocide

And they still Google translate and get the Irish part wrong in many cases.
PC Box ticking exercise imo to satisfy a cohort in favour of everyone but themselves using Irish.
Either do it right or don't do it at all.

who_me

Yeah, if the Tramore park is only (practically) accessible from the city via car it's a bit of a waste (pun intentional!)

Does any bus serve it? The park 'n' ride is pretty close, if it doesn't include a stop for the park, it could?

ScrubsfanChris

who_me wrote: »

Yeah, if the Tramore park is only (practically) accessible from the city via car it's a bit of a waste (pun intentional!)

Does any bus serve it? The park 'n' ride is pretty close, if it doesn't include a stop for the park, it could?

No pedestrian access from there.

In fact the original plans going way back (long time ago :pac: ) had pedestrian bridges from Vernon Mount over the N40 and another bridge from Black Ash over the South link.

opus

who_me wrote: »

Yeah, if the Tramore park is only (practically) accessible from the city via car it's a bit of a waste (pun intentional!)

Does any bus serve it? The park 'n' ride is pretty close, if it doesn't include a stop for the park, it could?

That was the big question during the brief time the parkrun event was on there, the largest public car park in Cork is < 5 mins walk away but there's no safe way to cross the road!

There's a culvert that leads there already but they said it couldn't be converted into a path due the flood risk! Which is funny cause there's a much longer culvert shown below that I occasionally take a jog through which doesn't have the same flood risk despite it being the very same stream

namloc1980

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

No pedestrian access from there.

In fact the original plans going way back (long time ago :pac: ) had pedestrian bridges from Vernon Mount over the N40 and another bridge from Black Ash over the South link.

Yeah two pedestrian access bridges were promised....taking us for eejits at this stage.

SleetAndSnow

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Planning-permission-granted-for-the-15-storey-Prism-skyscraper-set-to-transform-Corks-skyline-7f91cf86-0daf-4aaa-83ef-061a4f8f7ac5-ds

Prism permission granted!

j8wk2feszrnpao

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Planning-permission-granted-for-the-15-storey-Prism-skyscraper-set-to-transform-Corks-skyline-7f91cf86-0daf-4aaa-83ef-061a4f8f7ac5-ds

Prism permission granted!

An Taisce opposed the development on a number of grounds, including the height of the building.

the planning appeals body said ....It "would not have a significant and detrimental impact on any important views and vistas within the city."

An Taisce really are a disgrace; they are their own worst enemy.