60,000 child porn images no jail

donegaLroad

That guy is a marked man for the rest of his life, thats probably sentence enough.

The judge probably felt that he would not have been safe in prison, plus he has been attending rehab since 2013.

Im not trying to defend him or his actions, its just that there are a lot of people walking the streets at the minute who are guilty of a lot more serious crimes simply because the Irish prison system does not have the space or resources to cope with them.

For example, a recent enough case where a man got 5 years with the final 2 years suspended for attempted murder with a butchers knife. Victim was in intensive care for a week.

lawred2

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Outrage etc. etc. etc.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/no-jail-for-state-official-66-caught-with-nearly-60000-child-pornography-images-and-videos/ar-AAvWE3K?ocid=spartanntp

Outrage o' Meter

Nolan---New Prisons---Garlic Man---???---

Sure it's only a few pictures of children being raped

lawred2

donegaLroad wrote: »

That guy is a marked man for the rest of his life, thats probably sentence enough.
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No. It's not.

Skylinehead

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Waheyyyy!

Zebra3 wrote: »

Can’t pay your tv licence, lock’em up.

Another. Waheyyyyyyyy!

wexie

Well considering his name and address are in the papers now I can only hope his good neighbours will make sure to let him know how they feel about him

cantdecide

"Naturist in nature" me hole. If you are a pedophile and you have a questionable image of a child, then by it's nature it's pedophilic.

Odyssey 2005

donegaLroad wrote: »

That guy is a marked man for the rest of his life, thats probably sentence enough.

The judge probably felt that he would not have been safe in prison, plus he has been attending rehab since 2013.

Im not trying to defend him or his actions, its just that there are a lot of people walking the streets at the minute who are guilty of a lot more serious crimes simply because the Irish prison system does not have the space or resources to cope with them.

For example, a recent enough case where a man got 5 years with the final 2 years suspended for attempted murder with a butchers knife. Victim was in intensive care for a week.

He'd have been sent to Arbour Hill,along with all the other perverts and rapists. Sure they even have their own prison in this country.

It's interesting the way "mitigating circumstances" include that the person has destroyed his reputation etc. Yes, I understand that. And it is a real life sentence destruction far greater than a mere prison sentence, as the Tom Humphries case shows. But it's loaded with socio-economic prejudice.

How often, for instance, do you hear that particular "reputational loss" mitigating circumstance about an equally obnoxious gurrier, but one who did not have a good job or a university education but instead who lives in gurrierville and left his gurrierville education very young?

Varik

Deleted User wrote: »

How often, for instance, do you hear that particular "reputational loss" mitigating circumstance about an equally obnoxious gurrier, but one who did not have a good job or a university education but instead who lives in gurrierville and left his gurrierville education very young?

They tend to have "troubled upbringings", "come from broken homes", and some drink/substance abuse.

Only ****ers without a get out of jail free card are those who **** with the revenue.

wexie

Varik wrote: »

Only ****ers without a get out of jail free card are those who **** with the revenue.

kinda shows ya where the priorities in the system are no?

Church on Tuesday

Jail is too good for pedophiles IMO.

Why should a pedophile have a nice cushy number on the inside?

Let's face it, it's not like you can cure these kind of abnormalities of the human race.

A good long sentence of hard labour, with no parole would be preferable.

And that would still be too good.

Zebra3

Zebra3 wrote: »

Jail is only for a certain class of people.

Can’t pay your tv licence, lock’em up.

Nice middle class background, “Get Out Of Jail Free” cards galore.

Just on this as I always see it trotted out. TV license offenders don't even see a landing. It's sign in, doctor sees you, picture taken and on you go.

Mutant z

So being a paedophile is more acceptable in this country than someone who doesn't pay their TV licence is this some kind of sick joke.

wexie

Omackeral wrote: »

Just on this as I always see it trotted out. TV license offenders don't even see a landing. It's sign in, doctor sees you, picture taken and on you go.

What's with the dr Omackeral?

As in : why would they need to see a dr if they're just going to be shown the door then?

Mutant z

You would think that those who harm children would cause the most outrage to our justice system bizarrely that doesn't seem to be the case.

wexie

wexie wrote: »

What's with the dr Omackeral?

As in : why would they need to see a dr if they're just going to be shown the door then?

It's among the first ports of call for any committal, regardless of how long they're gonna be staying there. It's the same for anyone returning from court or hospital or a compassionate funeral escort. When they are shown the door, they're officially let out under temporary release terms (TR) but in reality it's just bye bye.

malinheader

Putting these sickos in jail for a few years and then letting them loose again in a different area is not the answer. Something drastic has to be done to deter this as there is no cure for these freaks. Its getting all to common and time now to severely up the penaltys.

donkeykong5

Signed a petition about this judge 2 years ago. His sympathy for filthy paedophiles and child porn down loaders is questionable.

JupiterKid

Another example where the sentencing regime is way too lenient and inconsistent.

How would you even find the time to download 60K images??

Samuel T. Cogley

lawred2 wrote: »

Sure it's only a few pictures of children being raped

Not according to the reports.

donkeykong5

Mess around with vat on garlic........6 years. Mess around with porn sites and download pictures of children been abused 60 thousand times............Suspended sentence. Ffs.

Zebra3

Skylinehead wrote: »

Another. Waheyyyyyyyy!

:rolleyes:

Are Am Eye

beefburrito wrote: »

Sure wasn't that Judge from the tralee district who got caught with Image's, notorious for letting certain individuals off with criminal activity.....

Won't mention any names....but its out there....

That's the one where the state/gardai got a Warrant which specifically has a life of one week and executed eight days later. Rendering evidence completely and permanently non usable and non existent.

That was just by chance.

Clerical error.

Bureaucracy.

There was nothing else going on there.

odyssey06

Am I reading it right... it took 5 years for the case to come to court - the raid took place in 2013?
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/no-jail-for-state-official-66-caught-with-nearly-60000-child-pornography-images-and-videos-36811835.html

Am I being too cynical or has this delay allowed allowed said civil servant to retire from his senior role in the civil service before being convicted?

Everything about this stinks.

Sardonicat

JupiterKid wrote: »

Another example where the sentencing regime is way too lenient and inconsistent.

How would you even find the time to download 60K images??

He worked for the Department of Health and Children.

donkeykong5

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Mess around with vat on garlic........6 years. Mess around with porn sites and download pictures of children been abused 60 thousand times............Suspended sentence. Ffs.

Yes, somebody has done it! Thread over. Well predicted, OP.

donkeykong5

odyssey06 wrote: »

Am I reading it right... it took 5 years for the case to come to court - the raid took place in 2013?
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/no-jail-for-state-official-66-caught-with-nearly-60000-child-pornography-images-and-videos-36811835.html

Am I being too cynical or has this delay allowed allowed said civil servant to retire from his senior role in the civil service before being convicted?

Everything about this stinks.

Stinks to high heaven!

Franz Von Peppercorn

It was Nolan who gave the 6 year sentence for the garlic if I recall.

donkeykong5

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

It was Nolan who gave the 6 year sentence for the garlic if I recall.

Yeah same judge who gave the suspended sentence today. !

boylecm

Should have got jail time as a contributor to the making of images of child abuse, even if he did not directly abuse.