Miles fuel (Topaz/Circle K)

clodola

NO.. Bog standard for me

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clodola

NO.. Bog standard for me

FB Group
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mikeecho

NO.. Bog standard for me

clodola wrote: »

FB Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/237854083628741/

Linky is wonky

clodola

NO.. Bog standard for me

mikeecho wrote: »

Linky is wonky

Deleted the Group , a page is a better option

https://www.facebook.com/97Octane/

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

So,
Mixed results.
( I had almost 1/2 tank of Texaco in so cannot fully compare,
I filled with Miles plus just before I left Fermoy on Tuesday.covered approx 600kms.
First impressions are the car flt much more responsive, especially on motorway when I wanted to overtake. My wife even noticed it.
Really happy with that part especially as it is is first tank ( mixed )
Secondly,
Some of the mpg possibly has to do with weather but the trip computer which is what I have been using since I bought it was showing 5.7/100~5.8/100 = between 48~50mpg.
I do small mileage int total so I am going to continue using it and see how it goes.

ianobrien

NO.. Bog standard for me

I found that it takes two fills or so to get it to work it's best. It's just to dilute down the old diesel.

shietpilot

Atari Jaguar

Keep in mind it takes the ECU some time to adapt to the better fuel.

Leonard Hofstadter

Did Dublin to Cork last night, 33 mpg whereas normally I'd get about 31 mpg. This is using miles plus petrol, so I'd say it does save a bit even accounting for the better weather.

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

ianobrien wrote: »

I found that it takes two fills or so to get it to work it's best. It's just to dilute down the old diesel.

Yes,
I am debating if I should let this tank run way down or just fill it now again?

shietpilot wrote: »

Keep in mind it takes the ECU some time to adapt to the better fuel.

I read that alright, It can take 2~3 tanks to adjust.

ianobrien

NO.. Bog standard for me

vectra wrote: »

Yes,
I am debating if I should let this tank run way down or just fill it now again?

.

Run it away down before filling. Then you have a reduced concentration of crap diesel in the tank when compared to the other approach of keep topping it up.

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

OmegaGene wrote: »

Agreed
I was topping up and saw some improvements in mpg but after letting the tank almost run out the improvements are more noticeable

2014 c220 using texaco averaging 45mpg now using topaz more miles 50mpg
This is all local driving School runs and shopping

Serious mileage for local runs.
You find it more responsive ?

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

OmegaGene wrote: »

Turns out I was working it out wrong and I’m actually getting around the 56mpg this was a run from cork to Dublin yesterday and local driving comes out the same I thought he motorway trip would have faired better than local driving but it’s all good

Cork to Dublin at 97kph

pa990

NO.. Bog standard for me

shietpilot wrote: »

Keep in mind it takes the ECU some time to adapt to the better fuel.

200 engine hours ... apparently (For the plus fuel to have full effect)

So that could be 2 to 4 tanks.... all depending on a lot of variables.

hognef

Atari Jaguar

pa990 wrote: »

200 engine hours ... apparently (For the plus fuel to have full effect)

So that could be 2 to 4 tanks.... all depending on a lot of variables.

You're doing extremely well if you can do 200 hours on even 4 tanks. Even at 50 km/h that's 10,000 km (2,500 km per tank). How big is your tank?

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

hognef wrote: »

You're doing extremely well if you can do 200 hours on even 4 tanks. Even at 50 km/h that's 10,000 km (2,500 km per tank). How big is your tank?

I was thinking that alright
id be lucky to get 8-10 hours out of a tank

pa990

NO.. Bog standard for me

Sorry, I didn't really explain that correctly.

It's 2 to 4 tanks to see an improvement.

And it's 200 engine hours of super /premium fuel to do the cleaning. Ie full effect.
After 200hrs, it's cleaned it as much as it can,.


.... according to my industry insider.

Wailin

NO.. Bog standard for me

So do most of you lads go out of your way to get this fuel? There doesn't seem to be many garages with the miles plus and none in my area (west dublin).

Leonard Hofstadter

Wailin wrote: »

So do most of you lads go out of your way to get this fuel? There doesn't seem to be many garages with the miles plus and none in my area (west dublin).

The Westway station is near the Fox and Geese, and it's also the cheapest in Dublin (by some distance) for the stuff.

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

pa990 wrote: »

Sorry, I didn't really explain that correctly.

It's 2 to 4 tanks to see an improvement.

And it's 200 engine hours of super /premium fuel to do the cleaning. Ie full effect.
After 200hrs, it's cleaned it as much as it can,.


.... according to my industry insider.

So you think it might take 200 hours to fully clean my engine?
It has only 6700kms on it from new

Wailin wrote: »

So do most of you lads go out of your way to get this fuel? There doesn't seem to be many garages with the miles plus and none in my area (west dublin).

Just about a km further than my local topaz, But it is on my way out of town so no problem for me.

mikeecho

NO.. Bog standard for me

Wailin wrote: »

So do most of you lads go out of your way to get this fuel? There doesn't seem to be many garages with the miles plus and none in my area (west dublin).

I don't go out of my way for it.
It's opposite the aldi I shop at, so I just top up at the topaz, wherever I'm doing a shop.

Is the miles plus 97 available anywhere south Dublin? My bike is supposed to run 97 so I'm not sure what benefit id get out of miles plus which is just 95 with additives?

Stephen15

Atari Jaguar

Marlee Ashy Band-aid wrote: »

Is the miles plus 97 available anywhere south Dublin? My bike is supposed to run 97 so I'm not sure what benefit id get out of miles plus which is just 95 with additives?

Dalkey, Ballyboden and The Square sell it

Leonard Hofstadter

Stephen15 wrote: »

Dalkey, Ballyboden and The Square sell it

How much more is it than regular miles plus? My car is supposed to run 98 RON so it should respond a bit better using 97 RON (although I truthfully never noticed a difference using super unleaded in the UK when I lived there apart from slightly smoother running), so I'd like to give it a go.

I definitely think the standard miles plus is worth it for the better mpg - I reckon it's doing about 1-2 mpg more than it normally would - and when you've got six cylinders under the bonnet to be feeding, that makes a bit of a difference.

bennyx_o

NO.. Bog standard for me

Miles Plus 97 isn't available in Ireland. Not sure if it was the thread or another, but Circle K I've days they are looking to see how successful regular Miles Plus is before introducing the 97 octane one. They've since taken any reference to it off their website.

The Real B-man

NO.. Bog standard for me

bennyx_o wrote: »

Miles Plus 97 isn't available in Ireland. Not sure if it was the thread or another, but Circle K I've days they are looking to see how successful regular Miles Plus is before introducing the 97 octane one. They've since taken any reference to it off their website.

https://www.circlek.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/milesPLUS_unleaded_97.pdf

bennyx_o

NO.. Bog standard for me

The Real B-man wrote: »

https://www.circlek.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/milesPLUS_unleaded_97.pdf

Yeah, I noticed it's back on the website. I can't find the post now where another poster got an email from Corcle K stating what I had posted previously

bennyx_o

NO.. Bog standard for me

Just got this reply;

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately we do not provide 97 RON it was a mistake put on our website and later removed.
We are not going to supply this grade of Octane in the future i am told either.

I do know that some of our dealer sites up the north have this on their forecourt but that nowhere in Ireland actually has this as its a uk based fuel.

rex-x

NO.. Bog standard for me

I sent them an email and in fairness they replied quickly. No plans to ever get 97 octane in Ireland unfortunately, not even in the distant pipeline

mikeecho

NO.. Bog standard for me

pa990 wrote: »

200 engine hours ... apparently (For the plus fuel to have full effect)

So that could be 2 to 4 tanks.... all depending on a lot of variables.

The industry insider was misinformed..

It's more like 20 to 30 hrs

http://m.circlek.se/cs/Satellite/SE1/sv_SE/pg1334076695392/privat/drivmedel/Miles/Diesel/MilesDieselTester.html?c=Page&childpagename=SE1%2FLayout&cid=1334076695392&d=Touch&lang=sv_SE&packedargs=lang&pagename=SE1Wrapper&sitepfx=SE1&sitepfx=SE1

20 to 30 hrs is more like 2 to 3 tanks.

So.. half right

Stephen15

Atari Jaguar

Noticed the the Southbound garage at Cabinteely is getting Miles Plus

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

Wonder what is the general price of miles plus around Cork?
I have a feeling my local is the "Brown Thomas" of service stations :P

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

OmegaGene wrote: »

€1.47 in fermoy

€1.44.9 last time I got it there.

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

OmegaGene wrote: »

http://pumps.ie

Fermoy station not showing on that
As a side note,
Does pumps.ie work on IOS anymore?

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

OmegaGene wrote: »

I got it yesterday at that price

1.44.9
Or
1.47 ?

OmegaGene wrote: »

Handy site to use if your travelling around and can plan a fill up

I know. I have been using it with years but cant seem to see if it works on Iphone or not?
Had it on Android always.

Leonard Hofstadter

Is that for regular or miles plus, and for petrol or diesel?

It was 150.9 per litre for miles plus petrol last Saturday at the Westway station in Dublin anyway.

mikeecho

NO.. Bog standard for me

vectra wrote: »

Wonder what is the general price of miles plus around Cork?
I have a feeling my local is the "Brown Thomas" of service stations :P

Ballincollig
Petrol. 1.449
Plus petrol 1.519
Diesel 1.349
Plus diesel 1.419


Lower Glanmire rd
Petrol. 1.459
Plus petrol 1.529
Diesel 1.359
Plus diesel 1.429

Macroom
... didn't take any notice when I drove past, but they seem to have an 8c premium on plus fuel, ballincollig and lower rd, have a 7c premium.

I've a 70L tank, and usually fill up with 50L, so the plus fuel will cost an extra €3.50
I fill up fortnightly(ish)
So it only costs an extra €1.75 a week, and the car runs more quiet and has a bit more pep.

For the sake of €100 over the entire year.. it's not a big motoring cost, given that I'll spend €€€€'s on tyres.

mikeecho

NO.. Bog standard for me

On a side note.
I recently filled a 1.2 petrol polo and a 1.4 petrol golf with plus petrol for family members, and v both have said that it was "good petrol" both who are clueless when it comes to anything automotive.

I'm not sure if that's a good recommendation or not, but regardless, I've filled the bike and the summer run about with plus petrol.
Neither do much mileage, so the cost is negligible.

My daily is a 220bhp diesel, that I've run on plus diesel since it's introduction, prior to that I was using a cetane improver, currently between 1,200 to 1,400 km per 70L tank

.... and I do like to push the pedal to the carpet.

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

mikeecho wrote: »

Ballincollig
Petrol. 1.449
Plus petrol 1.519
Diesel 1.349
Plus diesel 1.419


Lower Glanmire rd
Petrol. 1.459
Plus petrol 1.529
Diesel 1.359
Plus diesel 1.429

Macroom
... didn't take any notice when I drove past, but they seem to have an 8c premium on plus fuel, ballincollig and lower rd, have a 7c premium.

I've a 70L tank, and usually fill up with 50L, so the plus fuel will cost an extra €3.50
I fill up fortnightly(ish)
So it only costs an extra €1.75 a week, and the car runs more quiet and has a bit more pep.

For the sake of €100 over the entire year.. it's not a big motoring cost, given that I'll spend €€€€'s on tyres.

Agreed,
I do very small mileage PA
So probably somewhere in the region of 100 PA for myself as well,
I think like you, Worth it for the better running and I am going to continue a check on MPG compared to the cheaper brand,
I have an idea what it was like on Normal Miles Topaz diesel ( Or whatever it is called)
I have 104kms left in the tank now so will fill her this week.

Wailin

NO.. Bog standard for me

Last two fills have been with the miles plus diesel so interesting to see if there's a noticeable difference. Most seem to think about 3 or 4 fills before it takes affect...is that the case? It's a 313hp diesel so has plenty of pull already, I'm thinking the difference will be negligible really but no harm trying.

Wailin

NO.. Bog standard for me

Woah that is a nice jump. Im averaging 38-40 mpg at the moment and not noticing any difference yet.

vectra

NO.. Bog standard for me

OmegaGene wrote: »

It took me about 3 fills to notice the mpg improving, but I think that was because I didn’t drain he tank fully
I went from 47mpg to 56mpg roughly

That's some improvement
I am wondering if you are comparing winter MPG to summer MPG ?
On my first tank ( just over half tank as Texaco diesel was in there already ) I noticed an almost 5mpg improvement on a 600 km round trip mostly motorway.
I am still looking at town driving and it looks as though it is giving me better mpg here as well.

Seth Brundle

OmegaGene wrote: »

It took me about 3 fills to notice the mpg improving, but I think that was because I didn’t drain he tank fully
I went from 47mpg to 56mpg roughly

There isn't a hope that you got a 20% improvement by switching to a different fuel alone.
The increased temperatures, the style of driving, the condition of the car, something else has contributed to this much more than Topaz's fancy additive.

If you could get a 20% gain this additive, then *all* fuel globally would have something like this in it.

Zubeneschamali

Atari Jaguar

OmegaGene wrote: »

I went from 47mpg to 56mpg roughly

If swapping one additive in regular fuel for a different additive in the plus fuel could deliver a 20% improvement, Topaz would say so.

They claim their additive delivers 3% vs. no additive at all, which is a fuel you cannot buy since thay all use additives of some sort.

If it gives 2% over regular, I would be surprised. The idea that this fuel gives a 20% improvement is pure fantasy - something else did that.

Seweryn

We have higher temperatures and less windy weather for the last few weeks which help a lot more to achieve higher mpg than anything else (as already stated).

Tea drinker

NO.. Bog standard for me

clodola wrote: »

None of us can find it in any of the Miles Plus stations, just Miles Plus ; Talking to CircleK on Facebook , it is labelled as Miles Plus 97 , Miles Plus is only 95

In the hope of creating a demand , can you email them stating your interest

https://www.circlek.ie/contact-us/

Well I tried a few times but the contact us webpage doesn't take my submission.
Who do I contact now?
:-)

mikeecho

NO.. Bog standard for me

Tea drinker wrote: »

Well I tried a few times but the contact us webpage doesn't take my submission.
Who do I contact now?
:-)

bennyx_o wrote: »

Just got this reply

...
Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately we do not provide 97 RON it was a mistake put on our website and later removed.
We are not going to supply this grade of Octane in the future i am told either.

I do know that some of our dealer sites up the north have this on their forecourt but that nowhere in Ireland actually has this as its a uk based fuel.

.

Tea drinker

NO.. Bog standard for me

mikeecho wrote: »

...
Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately we do not provide 97 RON it was a mistake put on our website and later removed.
We are not going to supply this grade of Octane in the future i am told either.

I do know that some of our dealer sites up the north have this on their forecourt but that nowhere in Ireland actually has this as its a uk based fuel.

[/QUOTE]
Cheers man, I did manage to send an email in the end, to customer service. That's a very stupid reply they gave you, practically every backwater station in Europe (not only EU) has at least 97 octane. We need to find the real reason why we can't get such fuels here, is there some capacity issue in our national petroleum handling facilities or extra duty, or it's "inefficient" to offer another fuel in amongst the myriad other fuels already handled in Ireland.

Cheers

Vittu

Zaph wrote: »

So it's 3% more performance for 8% more money? Hardly seems worth it.

Well said

bennyx_o

NO.. Bog standard for me

Tea drinker wrote: »

Cheers man, I did manage to send an email in the end, to customer service. That's a very stupid reply they gave you, practically every backwater station in Europe (not only EU) has at least 97 octane. We need to find the real reason why we can't get such fuels here, is there some capacity issue in our national petroleum handling facilities or extra duty, or it's "inefficient" to offer another fuel in amongst the myriad other fuels already handled in Ireland.

Cheers

It is a strange reply, they're rolling Miles Plus out to more sites so it must be selling reasonably well. I can't imagine 97ron being much more expensive either. Doesn't make much sense to me. That being said, I've been running Miles Plus for a while now and MPG seems to have improved by about 2 or so.

mikeecho

NO.. Bog standard for me

Tea drinker wrote: »

Cheers man, I did manage to send an email in the end, to customer service. That's a very stupid reply they gave you, practically every backwater station in Europe (not only EU) has at least 97 octane. We need to find the real reason why we can't get such fuels here, is there some capacity issue in our national petroleum handling facilities or extra duty, or it's "inefficient" to offer another fuel in amongst the myriad other fuels already handled in Ireland.

Cheers[/quote]

Meanwhile in Finland abroad 92ron


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