Is Islam right for Ireland?

AllForIt

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Islam, like all other religions, is not right for anywhere.

You could be eating your last cookie if you said that in the wrong place.

Hotblack Desiato

WinnyThePoo

SnakePlissken wrote: »

One who possesses such a poor grasp of both grammar and syntax really has no place calling another poster uneducated.

I'll happily stand against uneducated bigotry.

aaronjumper

AllForIt wrote: »

You could be eating your last cookie if you said that in the wrong place.

Brae100

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

I'll happily stand against uneducated bigotry.

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

WinnyThePoo

Brae100 wrote: »

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

What ever age you want me to be baby.

Omackeral

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

What ever age you want me to be baby.

That's what Mohammed must've heard from Aisha when he had his way with her at the age of 9.

WinnyThePoo

Omackeral wrote: »

That's what Mohammed must've heard from Aisha when he had his way with her at the age of 9.

I know it's sick.

Harry Palmr

Given the sheer destruction wrought by Christianity in Ireland it's hard to see how Islam will improve things.

OneEightSeven

Islam needs to be eradicated.

It's a stupid thread title & a stupid poll.
I haven't seen one post where someone believes Islam should take over Ireland!
The anti Muslim's would have you believe that Islam is going to be the law here any day now.
I hate to point out to the majority of people on this thread, everyone can commit crime, everyone.
It doesn't matter what colour, nationality or religion you are.
& painting millions of people with the same brush because of their religion is prejudice.

weldoninhio

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Theres literally not been one instance of violence or forcing of anyone to convert to Islam at any time in Ireland since Muslim people have been here. Theyre the ones being persecuted and forced to except other cultures and religions and dress a different way and eat different food, theyre the ones suffering from violence and discrimination, not us.

Tell that to the family of the poor Japanese guy that was living in Dundalk.

weldoninhio

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Did the dogs on street tell you to write this drivel


"The french didn't suddenly start harassing their woman"

This is pure utter stupidity we see on this thread. Did crime in France only begin recently?


Seriously how is anyone supposed to take you seriously. You aren't using reasoning, you aren't logic. Your grasping .

Anyway , if your so worried about the oncoming hordes of the invasion sponsered by merkel , perhaps take up arms because soapboxing here under various names.

I'm grand, i don't need vilify an entire religion, i dont need to dehumanize down syndrome children separated from there parents at an american border, i don't need be dishonest in my position.

https://youtu.be/6gZFGpNdH1A

Hector Savage

weldoninhio wrote: »

https://youtu.be/6gZFGpNdH1A

Shhhhh!!!!

Don't bring up reality !!

Can you imagine if they were white men ? - God Louise O Neill and Una Mullaly would have massive hit pieces filling all the papers how "The Evil White Patriarchy" is destroying society

The_Kew_Tour

weldoninhio wrote: »

https://youtu.be/6gZFGpNdH1A

That won't happen here though, cause we're Irish, we do it better, ole.

ninja 12

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

That won't happen here though, cause we're Irish, we do it better, ole.

I`ve never been able to work out an explanation as to why some people think Ireland will be any different to any other European country that has had an increase in followers of Islam , and the social problems that come with it .

Sure , it'll be grand , everyone loves the Irish , eh ?

Hector Bellend

Dont you think we'd have learned our lesson with catholicism.

Roger Hassenforder

bubblypop wrote: »

It's a stupid thread title & a stupid poll.
I haven't seen one post where someone believes Islam should take over Ireland!
The anti Muslim's would have you believe that Islam is going to be the law here any day now.
I hate to point out to the majority of people on this thread, everyone can commit crime, everyone.
It doesn't matter what colour, nationality or religion you are.
& painting millions of people with the same brush because of their religion is prejudice.

Have to agree with you. The poll is a too simplistic, and suggests a problem with Muslims in general.

keano_afc

Brae100 wrote: »

I think the basic problem with a lot of the "right on" posters here is that they simply have no idea what Islam is. They just see a minority that they feel compelled to defend and virtue signal about. I was exactly the same a few years ago until I actually read up a bit more on the subject.

Islam is not just a religion, it is a political movement and a complete way of life. In the west, we just don't understand this. It would help if people viewed Islam as akin to fascist political beliefs akin to National Socialism, rather than a minority religion.

This doesnt just hit the nail on the head, it pounds it in to submission, leaves it for a bit and comes back with a sledgehammer.

Captain Obvious

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Islam, like all other religions, is not right for anywhere.

You're not allowed mention other religions, dude.

Madagascan wrote: »

I think you mean Wouldn't!

I don't think he does.

SnakePlissken wrote: »

So Timberrrrrr's on the far right now? Jaysus I can't keep up.

I'd imagine it's difficult to keep up when you look at posts in random order.

keano_afc

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Given the sheer destruction wrought by Christianity those claiming to be Christian in Ireland it's hard to see how Islam will improve things.

Fixed that for you there.

Captain Obvious

keano_afc wrote: »

Fixed that for you there.

But there's no differentiation like that given to Muslims.

keano_afc

Captain Obvious wrote: »

But there's no differentiation like that given to Muslims.

For the simple reason that the ideologies are different. Islam calls its followers to acts of violence in its name, Christianity doesn't.

Timberrrrrrrr

keano_afc wrote: »

For the simple reason that the ideologies are different. Islam calls its followers to acts of violence in its name, Christianity doesn't ANYMORE

Fixed that for you.

Omackeral

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

Kinda relevant and for the best though wouldn't you say.

keano_afc

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

As we're discussing Christianity, where in the new testament are Christians called to violence?

Timberrrrrrrr

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

That lone edit validates the first part of the sentence.

Hotblack Desiato

Captain Obvious wrote: »

As to my confidence in what i think will happen, it's based on our society becoming much less secular, women becoming more empowered and educated, and legislative support for those in oppressive situations.

Less secular?

Madagascan wrote: »

I think you mean Wouldn't!

Hard to know.

weldoninhio wrote: »

Tell that to the family of the poor Japanese guy that was living in Dundalk.

If I'm being attached by someone who is severely mentally ill, what religion they were brought up in is of little consequence. The (alleged) perp is still locked up in the CMH and is unfit to plead.

Captain Obvious

keano_afc wrote: »

For the simple reason that the ideologies are different. Islam calls its followers to acts of violence in its name, Christianity doesn't.

But you are simply taking the most violent interpretation of the Muslim religion and comparing it to the most moderate interpretation of Christianity

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Less secular?

Fixed that.

keano_afc

Captain Obvious wrote: »

But you are simply taking the most violent interpretation of the Muslim religion and comparing it to the most moderate interpretation of Christianity.

No, I was taking one faith that expressly commands its followers to convert by all means possible (including by way of violence) and another that does no such thing.

weldoninhio

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Less secular?




Hard to know.




If I'm being attached by someone who is severely mentally ill, what religion they were brought up in is of little consequence. The (alleged) perp is still locked up in the CMH and is unfit to plead.

He was in court on 28th June and is due back today. You wouldn’t know this because it’s near impossible to find. I saw a tiny sidebar report in the Herald about the first appearance. He’s claiming not to remember the attack. Still no mention of where he is from though, which is strange, considering he has a translator with him in court.

WinnyThePoo

Omackeral wrote: »

Kinda relevant and for the best though wouldn't you say.

A it like expecting 99.999 percent of Muslims are not going around raping 9 year old girls eh?

Omackeral

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

A it like expecting 99.999 percent of Muslims are not going around raping 9 year old girls eh?

Sorry I couldn't really make sense of that.

WinnyThePoo

Omackeral wrote: »

Sorry I couldn't really make sense of that.

It's a reference to an earlier post by yourself.

WinnyThePoo

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

It's a reference to an earlier post by yourself.

Even with a reference, it's nonsensical. All your posts read like you're smashed drunk.

Taytoland

It's not Hindus or Christians or Sikhs running around in Europe with substantial numbers relatively speaking trying to murder people via running them over via a vehicle, turning people into mince meat with explosives, knifing people to death, all while shouting Allah akbar doing it. 

The attacks we saw last year were just the tip of the iceberg which managed to get through. European intelligence agencies are probably stopping way more than the ones we even know about. If Leo Varadkar has his way Ireland WILL see a bombing or such terrorist attack, it will be inevitable.

Don't come to the people who are giving a heads up about this when it happens and say you didn't see this coming.

10000maniacs

AllForIt wrote: »

You could be eating your last cookie if you said that in the wrong place.

That sums up one of the big problems with Islam very nicely.
And sums up why unless there is a sea change in their perspective, Islam will never be right for Ireland.

Captain Obvious

Taytoland wrote: »

It's not Hindus or Christians or Sikhs running around in Europe with substantial numbers relatively speaking trying to murder people via running them over via a vehicle, turning people into mince meat with explosives, knifing people to death, all while shouting Allah akbar doing it.

The attacks we saw last year were just the tip of the iceberg which managed to get through. European intelligence agencies are probably stopping way more than the ones we even know about. If Leo Varadkar has his way Ireland WILL see a bombing or such terrorist attack, it will be inevitable.

Don't come to the people who are giving a heads up about this when it happens and say you didn't see this coming.

I'm not sure you know what substantial means.

The_Kew_Tour

Taytoland wrote: »

It's not Hindus or Christians or Sikhs running around in Europe with substantial numbers relatively speaking trying to murder people via running them over via a vehicle, turning people into mince meat with explosives, knifing people to death, all while shouting Allah akbar doing it. 

The attacks we saw last year were just the tip of the iceberg which managed to get through. European intelligence agencies are probably stopping way more than the ones we even know about. If Leo Varadkar has his way Ireland WILL see a bombing or such terrorist attack, it will be inevitable.

Don't come to the people who are giving a heads up about this when it happens and say you didn't see this coming.

They stopped a average of 2 attacks happening every 3 days last year.

Scary

WinnyThePoo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Even with a reference, it's nonsensical. All your posts read like you're smashed drunk.

Thanks. Have reread of your own posts there.

Hector Savage

Right now 91% saying no, says it all really.

Yet the MSM will try and push push push for it - why ???

Why is Sean O Rourke on RTE saying a Syrian refugee that can barely speak english who has lived in Ireland (Cork) for ~1 year is a Corkman ??
with a straight face?

Whats their agenda here ?

Captain Obvious

Hector Savage wrote: »

Right now 91% saying no, says it all really.

Yet the MSM will try and push push push for it - why ???

Push what?

Hector Savage wrote: »

Why is Sean O Rourke on RTE saying a Syrian refugee that can barely speak english who has lived in Ireland (Cork) for ~1 year is a Corkman ??
with a straight face?

Whats their agenda here ?

Make someone who has had a hard life feel welcome?

Odhinn

Hector Savage wrote: »

Right now 91% saying no, says it all really.

Yet the MSM will try and push push push for it - why ???

Why is Sean O Rourke on RTE saying a Syrian refugee that can barely speak english who has lived in Ireland (Cork) for ~1 year is a Corkman ??
with a straight face?

Whats their agenda here ?

Whats yours?

WinnyThePoo

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Thanks. Have reread of your own posts there.

I've just looked at your posts in "Oldest first".. Below are some examples.


Would like to see Hagan get in ahead of White. Will Leinster bring in another tight head next season when White goes to Connacht?

I've looked at the video again and again. Just horrible. Perhaps Hawkins was slowing the ball, Clark was trying to clear him out and didnt mean to pull his arm in that fashion, trying to come up with an excuse, just cant see one.

Could well see NZ having a 5-8 lead for the majority of the match. A late counter attack try finished by Savea to seal the match. Great write up, it's got me going for a hopefully a stellar game


Would you mind explaining what on Earth happened to your English grammar and general ability to get your points across? You were totally fluent.
If it's a stroke or something, I apologise. But others have pointed it out as well. You're the most noticeable person who'd be mistaken for a non-native speaker on the site recently.


Edit: Nevermind. You just seem to be very inconsistent in your level of arsedness.

dav3

Hector Savage wrote: »

Right now 91% saying no, says it all really.

Yet the MSM will try and push push push for it - why ???

Why is Sean O Rourke on RTE saying a Syrian refugee that can barely speak english who has lived in Ireland (Cork) for ~1 year is a Corkman ??
with a straight face?

Whats their agenda here ?

MSM? Leo is that you?

The reason why normal people ignore these polls is that they attract idiots using their 25 different accounts to vote.

Thankfully when it comes to actual voting in elections, you only get one vote. Although I get the feeling with these polls that most of the voters aren't actually Irish or even old enough to vote.

ELM327

dav3 wrote: »

MSM? Leo is that you?

The reason why normal people ignore these polls is that they attract idiots using their 25 different accounts to vote.

Thankfully when it comes to actual voting in elections, you only get one vote. Although I get the feeling with these polls that most of the voters aren't actually Irish or even old enough to vote.

They perfectly predicted the result of the abortion and SSM referenda.....

WinnyThePoo

Deleted User wrote: »

I've just looked at your posts in "Oldest first".. Below are some examples.


Would like to see Hagan get in ahead of White. Will Leinster bring in another tight head next season when White goes to Connacht?

I've looked at the video again and again. Just horrible. Perhaps Hawkins was slowing the ball, Clark was trying to clear him out and didnt mean to pull his arm in that fashion, trying to come up with an excuse, just cant see one.

Could well see NZ having a 5-8 lead for the majority of the match. A late counter attack try finished by Savea to seal the match. Great write up, it's got me going for a hopefully a stellar game


Would you mind explaining what on Earth happened to your English grammar and general ability to get your points across? You were totally fluent.
If it's a stroke or something, I apologise. But others have pointed it out as well. You're the most noticeable person who'd be mistaken for a non-native speaker on the site recently.

Firstly I'm absolutely delighted that you take my rugby analysis so seriously . I didn't think Jamie Hagan or Jack White were ever going to brought up in a thead about Islam on after hours but they are now. Hell me referencing Ciaran Clark breaking another rugby players arm. Making this thread. You've outdone yourself.

Secondly your self importance is adorable.

I know your not a doctor, but thanks for the prognosis . Do you have a future in medicine ?

So in two posts you have claimed that I am a 'smashed drunk ' , that I've had a stroke. Anymore?

This has to be the oddest post, even beats the one in the trump thread yesterday. Your certainly winning something. What your winning? , no one knows.

As i said, I'm absolutely delighted you've taken umbrage with my rugby analysis. If you want to talk about the rugby world from a few years ago, be my guest. Don't think this place for it though.

dav3

ELM327 wrote: »

They perfectly predicted the result of the abortion and SSM referenda.....

They were fairly close the the opinion polls run by research and marketing teams in Ireland.

You're not that naive are you? Every poll about islam, immigration, or some imaginary invasion by foreigners, attracts the nutters. Everybody notices it.

How seriously can you take a poll like this that allows multiple votes by one person, of any age, living in any country?

Kivaro

News just out:
Irishman jailed for two-and-a-half years after fundraising for the Islamic State.

Hassan Bal (26) was jailed for two and a half years years at Waterford Circuit Court after he pleaded guilty to two charges of providing and attempting to provide funding for ISIS.
Judge Eugene O'Kelly imposed a four and a half year sentence on Bal but suspended the final two years. He gave Bal credit for his early plea, his efforts to reform, his remorse and his previous good character.

One would have to wonder about Irish judges and their gullibility.

The_Kew_Tour

The Poll seems to have upset people. Maybe best to take it down before they cry.