Is Islam right for Ireland?

silverharp

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

The "father"'s family are "accomplished bare knuckle fighters".

Is "accomplished" really the right word to go with ????

indeed, reminds me of the sky reporter that descirbed an isis attack as vintage

dav3

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Any links to this please? Genuinely interested as i havent seen this quote in any news sources i have read.

You won't find a link. Just the knuckledragging daily mail creating clickbait for idiots.

PlaneSpeeking

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

You consider that racism? How heavily subscribed to the "White people are the real victims" narrative are you?

There.

PlaneSpeeking

dav3 wrote: »

You won't find a link. Just the knuckledragging daily mail creating clickbait for idiots.

So when it's in the Grauniad we're fine right ? Off the stage lad.

ancapailldorcha

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

There.

Right. I'll leave you to your onanistic victimhood narrative and alternative facts then so.

PlaneSpeeking

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Right. I'll leave you to your onanistic victimhood narrative and alternative facts then so.

Pointless reporting an AH mod on AH isn't it really ?

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

The "father"'s family are "accomplished bare knuckle fighters".

Is "accomplished" really the right word to go with ????

Doesnt say family

They are reportedly eastern Europeans from the Romani community and accomplished bare-knuckle fighters, their east London neighbours said.

PlaneSpeeking

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Doesnt say family

No issue with bigging up illegal behaviour as if they'd won the All Ireland but taking issue with "family".

It's clear what was meant.

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

No issue with bigging up illegal behaviour as if they'd won the All Ireland but taking issue with "family".

It's clear what was meant.

Who's bigging up illegal behaviour?

Just saying he shouldnt be making up his own quotes and should quote the actual article.

PlaneSpeeking

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Who's bigging up illegal behaviour?

Just saying he shouldnt be making up his own quotes and should quote the actual article.

Pointless though because the minute a story appears in a paper not on their proscribed list, apparently it loses its truth.

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Pointless though because the minute a story appears in a paper not on their proscribed list, apparently it loses its truth.

What is the "proscribed (sic) list. If i made uo a quote saying the 3 men arrested never new the husband i would be jumped on but its ok for others to make up quotes?

PlaneSpeeking

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What is the "proscribed (sic) list. If i made uo a quote saying the 3 men arrested never new the husband i would be jumped on but its ok for others to make up quotes?

1. Oh I used a wrong word - big deal.

2. It was in the story but you know perfectly well what I was getting at, the Daily Mail publishes a story and the apologists are all over it. It appears in the Huff Post or The Grauniad and poof - miraculously true.

ELM327

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Pointless reporting an AH mod on AH isn't it really ?

Pointless reporting anything really, if it doesn't align with the left view.
I reported a post yesterday for cross posting posts from different threads which I was given a yellow card for previously, and surprise surprise nothing happened.


I've given up posting in the trump threads because it's not a debate its a circle around one or two posters, make them leave (or get banned) and then return to the echo chamber.


It doesn't matter anyway, the war on terror is already lost, the economic and terrorist migrants have moved in to the EU already. Trump is the president and no arguing on this backwater dump is going to change that either way


So at the end of the day, we can rabbit on about migrants and we can rabbit on about Trump but neither of these threads on some pokey Irish website is going to make a blind bit of difference anyway.

PlaneSpeeking

ELM327 wrote: »

Pointless reporting anything really, if it doesn't align with the left view.
I reported a post yesterday for cross posting posts from different threads which I was given a yellow card for previously, and surprise surprise nothing happened.


I've given up posting in the trump threads because it's not a debate its a circle around one or two posters, make them leave (or get banned) and then return to the echo chamber.


It doesn't matter anyway, the war on terror is already lost, the economic and terrorist migrants have moved in to the EU already. Trump is the president and no arguing on this backwater dump is going to change that either way


So at the end of the day, we can rabbit on about migrants and we can rabbit on about Trump but neither of these threads on some pokey Irish website is going to make a blind bit of difference anyway.

On the plus side I learned a new word - when I'm next at the footy I can have the option to shout "get the ball you lazy f**king onanist",

Thank you Google!

The Backwards Man

I was out walking the dog earlier and I met this couple wheeling a pram, when suddenly I was hit on the back of the head by a rattle.

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

1. Oh I used a wrong word - big deal.

2. It was in the story but you know perfectly well what I was getting at, the Daily Mail publishes a story and the apologists are all over it. It appears in the Huff Post or The Grauniad and poof - miraculously true.

You have clearly made up your own words* in the post to suit your agenda, dont try to play the victim when someone calls you out for telling a blatant lie.

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

*The "father"'s family are "accomplished bare knuckle fighters".

Is "accomplished" really the right word to go with ????

The fact is the father and the men arrested are not even from the same country never mind the same family!

PlaneSpeeking

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You have clearly made up your own words* in the post to suit your agenda, dont try to play the victim when someone calls you out for telling a blatant lie.



The fact is the father and the men arrested are not even from the same country never mind the same family!

I have no agenda.

I read the story in bed, on my phone, half asleep near midnight.

So I got the details wrong ?

The husband was still arrested, he still is a violent asylum seeker and like a backwards moron, flipped over seeing "his" wife dressed normally.

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I have no agenda.

I read the story in bed, on my phone, half asleep near midnight.

So I got the details wrong ?

The husband was still arrested, he still is a violent asylum seeker and like a backwards moron, flipped over seeing "his" wife dressed normally.

You posted the comment 5 hours ago, so nearly 8 AM? or are you posting from somewhere with an 8 hour time difference to ireland?

As for the husband? The only story i can find to the claim is the one you posted. I'll wait till the facts come out before jumping to any conclusions.

Either way hopefully the child gets justice.

PlaneSpeeking

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You posted the comment 5 hours ago, so nearly 8 AM? or are you posting from somewhere with an 8 hour time difference to ireland?

As for the husband? The only story i can find to the claim is the one you posted. I'll wait till the facts come out before jumping to any conclusions.

Either way hopefully the child gets justice.

See post #3047.

SnakePlissken

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What is the "proscribed (sic) list. If i (sic) made uo (sic) a quote saying the 3 men arrested never new (sic) the husband i (sic) would be jumped on but its(sic) ok for others to make up quotes?

I believe the poster is simply voicing his frustration that when asked for a link, and duly providing same, the poster below was so swift to deny the report whilst also clearly inferring the poster is an idiot.

dav3 wrote: »

You won't find a link. Just the knuckledragging daily mail creating clickbait for idiots.

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

See post #3047.

Im on phone so posts are not numbered for me, im talking about the post that i quoted where you claimed it was the husbands family re: bare knuckle fighting.

You posted that 5 hours ago, changed the wording of the article to suit your agenda and basically told a blatant lie.

Timberrrrrrrr

SnakePlissken wrote: »

I believe the poster is simply voicing his frustration that when asked for a link, and duly providing same, the poster below was so swift to deny the report whilst also clearly inferring the poster is an idiot.

And do.you think providing a link and then changing the wording of it to suit an agenda is ok?

SnakePlissken

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You posted the comment 5 hours ago, so nearly 8 AM? or are you posting from somewhere with an 8 hour time difference to ireland?

This isn't Nineteen Eighty-Four, we are not all on the same schedule as yourself.

PlaneSpeeking

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Im on phone so posts are not numbered for me, im talking about the post that i quoted where you claimed it was the husbands family re: bare knuckle fighting.

You posted that 5 hours ago, changed the wording of the article to suit your agenda and basically told a blatant lie.

I posted at 23.47 to say I had read that it was the "violent asylum seeking father" who had been arrested.

I'm done arguing with you and sick of being called a liar by you.

You might be okay with kids getting maimed by acid just because daddy's backward "faith" says mummy can't go out in the UK without looking like a dalek put away for the night but I am very much not.

Billy86

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

There.

There is literally nothing in that post claiming it's all white people's fault.

PlaneSpeeking

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And do.you think providing a link and then changing the wording of it to suit an agenda is ok?

Just one last one - I made the comment, the quotes were verbatim from the story.

Someone else kindly provided the link and like the typical left wing Pavlovian response - it was decried because it wasn't in the "correct" paper.

Billy86

ELM327 wrote: »

Pointless reporting anything really, if it doesn't align with the left view.

If right wing posters want the freedom to spout lies with immunity (such as made up quotes), they should take it to somewhere it is welcome. Like for example the politics forum, where I've been told personally by mods to not report lies because they "don't care if posters are lying or not" and will not entertain such reporting of posts, despite their forum charter explicitly stating to report such posts. They will however ban people who call out these lies, so there is that.

Timberrrrrrrr

SnakePlissken wrote: »

This isn't Nineteen Eighty-Four, we are not all on the same schedule as yourself.

Claims he posted at midnight yet 5 hours ago was 8 am. So either he is lying or posted from another country, nothing wrong with curiosity is there?

ELM327

Billy86 wrote: »

If right wing posters want the freedom to spout lies with immunity (such as made up quotes), they should take it to somewhere it is welcome. Like for example the politics forum, where I've been told personally by mods to not report lies because they "don't care if posters are lying or not" and will not entertain such reporting of posts, despite their forum charter explicitly stating to report such posts. They will however ban people who call out these lies, so there is that.

What are you sh1teing on about now.
Are you the stalker from yesterday? I think you were.

PlaneSpeeking

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Claims he posted at midnight yet 5 hours ago was 8 am. So either he is lying or posted from another country, nothing wrong with curiosity is there?

I POSTED AT 23.47!

You just cannot be a**ed looking at it!

Billy86

ELM327 wrote: »

What are you sh1teing on about now.
Are you the stalker from yesterday? I think you were.

The stalker from yesterday? Fancy filling me in on what exactly you're on about there?

What I'm saying is if plane speeking wants to make lies and not be called on it, he can do so in the politics forum. In after hours he will be called out on that kind of stuff, and posters won't be carded and banned for doing so. Pretty simple stuff.

PlaneSpeeking

Billy86 wrote: »

If right wing posters want the freedom to spout lies with immunity (such as made up quotes), they should take it to somewhere it is welcome. Like for example the politics forum, where I've been told personally by mods to not report lies because they "don't care if posters are lying or not" and will not entertain such reporting of posts, despite their forum charter explicitly stating to report such posts. They will however ban people who call out these lies, so there is that.

Listen - the quote was not made up.

It was a quote, hence the " " marks.

You may not like the source material but there you are.

PlaneSpeeking

Billy86 wrote: »

The stalker from yesterday? Fancy filling me in on what exactly you're on about there?

What I'm saying is if plane speeking wants to make lies and not be called on it, he can do so in the politics forum. In after hours he will be called out on that kind of stuff, and posters won't be carded and banned for doing so. Pretty simple stuff.

So you can call me a liar when shown evidence to the contrary and get away with it ?

How is that right ???

ELM327

Billy86 wrote: »

The stalker from yesterday? Fancy filling me in on what exactly you're on about there?

What I'm saying is if plane speeking wants to make lies and not be called on it, he can do so in the politics forum. In after hours he will be called out on that kind of stuff, and posters won't be carded and banned for doing so. Pretty simple stuff.

Apologies, I mixed you up with a different "billy"
Mea culpa


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107603236&postcount=2932

Taytoland

The poll tells you all you need to know.

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I posted at 23.47 to say I had read that it was the "violent asylum seeking father" who had been arrested.

Im not on about that post, im on about the one where you changed the wording of the article to suit your agenda.

I'm done arguing with you and sick of being called a liar by you.

Simple solution to that, dont post lies.

You might be okay with kids getting maimed by acid just because daddy's backward "faith" says mummy can't go out in the UK without looking like a dalek put away for the night but I am very much not.

I live in the UK and see plenty of muslims, where do you live?

Billy86

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Listen - the quote was not made up.

It was a quote, hence the " " marks.

You may not like the source material but there you are.

Your quotation marks were for the "fathers family."

Screenshot for me where it says "fathers family" or at least quote the passage where it does. I'm getting zero results for that phrase, myself.

Yes I am talking about the daily mail link you posted.

Billy86

ELM327 wrote: »

Apologies, I mixed you up with a different "billy"
Mea culpa


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107603236&postcount=2932

No bothers, I get mixed up too with a few posters from time to time!

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Listen - the quote was not made up.

It was a quote, hence the " " marks.

You may not like the source material but there you are.

Here is the quote from the article linked that you changed

They are reportedly eastern Europeans from the Romani community and accomplished bare-knuckle fighters, their east London neighbours said.

If you have seen a different story from a different source that states it was the husbands family then link to it please or admit you changed the above to suit your agenda!

ancapailldorcha

Taytoland wrote: »

The poll tells you all you need to know.

It's 90% "No" as is most opinion on Islam on this site but several posters ignore facts like this and pretend that it is some sort of lefty echo chamber.

Taytoland

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Taytoland wrote: »

The poll tells you all you need to know.

It's 90% "No" as is most opinion on Islam on this site but several posters ignore facts like this and pretend that it is some sort of lefty echo chamber.

Most people have a negative view of Islam. The fact that it's polling at 90% on Ireland's biggest forum is something followers of Islam should be concerned with.

PlaneSpeeking

Taytoland wrote: »

Most people have a negative view of Islam. The fact that it's polling at 90% on Ireland's biggest forum is something followers of Islam should be concerned with.

There is literally nothing positive about most strands of Islam.

I've a couple of friends back home who have absolutely taken me to task because I made complaint about a student in work who threatened me.

"You shouldn't have done that, how does he know what is respectful and what is not ?".

He has been in Ireland for 8 years, speaks better English than me and if he doesn't know it's not okay to physically threaten a superior, I don't want him near the public.

Some people can excuse anything if you put an Islam tag on it.

Captain Obvious

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

You might be okay with kids getting maimed by acid just because daddy's backward "faith" says mummy can't go out in the UK without looking like a dalek put away for the night but I am very much not.

Can you quote the post where anyone has said this?

SnakePlissken

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Im not on about that post, im on about the one where you changed the wording of the article to suit your agenda.

The poster has already owned up to their error linking the attackers with the husband's family, but you'd prefer to use this faux pas (or agenda as you so repetitively claim) in an attempt to ignore the actual headline, which, in relation to the thread title, is most pertinent to the discussion;

"Afghan mother of acid attack boy, 3, was tracked down by her violent asylum seeker husband after she appeared in newspaper without her veil"

Not that I'm personally willing to accept the Mail as gospel at this time until facts are verified.

Timberrrrrrrr

SnakePlissken wrote: »

The poster has already owned up to their error linking the attackers with the husband's family, but you'd prefer to use this faux pas (or agenda as you so repetitively claim) in an attempt to ignore the actual headline, which, in relation to the thread title, is most pertinent to the discussion;

"Afghan mother of acid attack boy, 3, was tracked down by her violent asylum seeker husband after she appeared in newspaper without her veil"

Not that I'm personally willing to accept the Mail as gospel at this time until facts are verified.

On this at least we can both agree.

ELM327

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

It's 90% "No" as is most opinion on Islam on this site but several posters ignore facts like this and pretend that it is some sort of lefty echo chamber.

If you see literally any other thread on social issues, on boards, the viewpoint is invariably 80-85% "liberal" and 15-20% "conservative"


I suspect the reality of Isis and terrorism has proved this one to be an outlier.

ancapailldorcha

ELM327 wrote: »

If you see literally any other thread on social issues, on boards, the viewpoint is invariably 80-85% "liberal" and 15-20% "conservative"


I suspect the reality of Isis and terrorism has proved this one to be an outlier.

Based on the 8th and SSM referenda I would heartily disagree.

ELM327

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Based on the 8th and SSM referenda I would heartily disagree.

Considering the threads on the 8th polled at 80% repeal, and similar for SSM, you can heartily disagree all you wish but it doesn't align with the actuality.


I'll go dig out the old threads now
Repeal Part 3 (75% repeal)
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057867317

Repeal Part 2 (83% repeal)
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057852825

Repeal Part 1 (no poll)
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057852825

SSM thread in AH (82% in favour of SSM)
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=26147

ancapailldorcha

ELM327 wrote: »

Considering the threads on the 8th polled at 80% repeal, and similar for SSM, you can heartily disagree all you wish but it doesn't align with the actuality.


I'll go dig out the old threads now

I'm talking about posts, not the poll.

ELM327

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I'm talking about posts, not the poll.

You can change the goalposts however you wish.
I remember posting in the Repeal threads and being on the side of the left... and laughing when the no voters were complaining about everyone ganging up on them, echo chamber, myriad of posts every time they post one reply etc


I see it from their side now.


I wasn't around for the SSM discussion but I'm sure it was more of the same