VW Neo (eGolf replacement)

Shefwedfan

Mike9832 wrote: »

How do you know it's wrong?

They haven't released prices as far a I can see for Ireland, it's as right as anyone's in that case, I said " think " btw

Why do you have to be so aggressive and vulgar all the time?

You clearly didn't watch the video as they state 30k before grants.

You post stupid stuff on here about "Why should I want this car?". Who cares if you do or don't. You ruin every thread with the same rubbish. It is just so tiresome. Page after page after page of c**p

Even the reservations thread, seriously....you have spent 2 years saying you hate VW and want a Tesla, 5 second car and all the that....now you are trying to say you put 1k down on a VW car which you clearly didn't spent 20 mins watching a video. What about the "buy once buy right?"

You dont have to troll every single thread on the electric car forum.....

Mike9832

jusmeig wrote: »

They do a launch event and reveal heavily wrapped prototypes? Are these any pictures of the car?

sssshh

Can't criticise

Mike9832

Shefwedfan wrote: »

You clearly didn't watch the video as they state 30k before grants. So pricing the same wrong pricing today is just silly



You post stupid stuff on here about "Why should I want this car?". Who cares if you do or don't. You ruin every thread with the same rubbish. It is just so tiresome. Page after page after page of c**p


Even the reservations thread, seriously....you have spent 2 years saying you hate VW and want a Tesla, 5 second car and all the that....now you are trying to say you put 1k down on a VW car which you clearly didn't spent 20 mins watching a video. What about the "buy once buy right?"



You dont have to troll every single thread on the electric car forum.....

I cancelled my Tesla reservation

Price was ridiculous

I have no loyalty

If VW make a better product for cheaper i'll buy that, hence reservation

What choice do I have?

Tesla overpriced

Nissan crap batteries

Ioniq 38kWh, takes a day to charge, otherwise good car

Kona - Overpriced

eNiro - Overpriced/looks horrible imo

Fitz2011

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Just watched presentation


Target price to start below €40k before any state subsidy
1st year 2,000kWh free public charging(WeCharge app required and include Ionity)

After Frankfurt show(12th Sep- 22nd Sept) order phase starts. The registration number is required. Will be able to order via the chosen dealer. This is the one you picked on preorder.
Production end of year


ID.3 1st
4 colour choice
3 version(large wheels on all)
420km
58kWh battery

ID.3 1st
Voice control, sat nav

ID.3 1st Plus
IQ lights, bi-colour interior and exterior

ID.3 1st Max
HUD, panoramic roof

I hope the launch model will have the HUD, panoramic roof. Which spec will Vw Ireland pick as launch model? Hopefully ID.3 1st Max

Shefwedfan

Fitz2011 wrote: »

I hope the launch model will have the HUD, panoramic roof. Which spec will Vw Ireland pick as launch model? Hopefully ID.3 1st Max

Leave the roof and stick in the HUD.....


If they don't bring the HUD I might hold on.....

eagerv

My wish is HUD, Panoramic roof and nice fabric seats..

Shefwedfan

eagerv wrote: »

My wish is HUD, Panoramic roof and nice fabric seats..

One thing I don't like about the eGolf is the seats seem to lave marks very easy. Even water. End up getting it cleaned regular. My OCD kicks in.


I think I am looking for too much if I could get leather seats

eagerv

Shefwedfan wrote: »

One thing I don't like about the eGolf is the seats seem to lave marks very easy. Even water. End up getting it cleaned regular. My OCD kicks in.


I think I am looking for too much if I could get leather seats

I would like fabric seats like in the i3. Don't really need leather. Actually rarely use heated seats in my last few cars.


Hopefully even here in Paddy spec land we will get the good lights:)

eagerv

Would be interesting to know how many ID3's were pre-ordered .
Wonder will VW tell us?

Fitz2011

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Leave the roof and stick in the HUD.....


If they don't bring the HUD I might hold on.....

Yeah I’ll be cancelling my deposit if it doesn’t have the HUD. I knew it would be a 62 kWh battery but assumed I could pick one of the trim levels. I can only hope the launch edition will be the high spec model.

yabadabado

Would no HUD be a cause to cancel for many?
Just how useful is it ?

CFC007

They’ll all have HUD just the Max will have the advanced augmented reality display.

yabadabado wrote: »

Would no HUD be a cause to cancel for many?
Just how useful is it ?

CFC007

Looking at the video snippet of the launch edition on the VW website. You can see the bottom of the center display unit which looks like the one that was used in the Seat El Born concept.

Shefwedfan

yabadabado wrote: »

Would no HUD be a cause to cancel for many?
Just how useful is it ?

I am a techie at heart....will it be useful? no idea
Will I use it? maybe

Do I want it? damn right I do

Shefwedfan

CFC007 wrote: »

Looking at the video snippet of the launch edition on the VW website. You can see the bottom of the center display unit which looks like the one that was used in the Seat El Born concept.

I think it was the polish link earlier in thread which mentioned it was similar to the Seat Concept

KCross

In the last 3mins or so of the stream (1:08:00) he mentioned ireland going CO2 neutral! Where did he get that from?

Gumbo

yabadabado wrote: »

Would no HUD be a cause to cancel for many?
Just how useful is it ?

It’s one of those things you can technically live without. But once you have it you’ll find yourself using it all the time. We have it on one of our F10 535d’s and it’s permanently on.

Everything can be done on it, speed, sat nav, radio stations and music controls.

Gumbo

KCross wrote: »

In the last 3mins or so of the stream (1:08:00) he mentioned ireland going CO2 neutral! Where did he get that from?

From the bottom of a pint of Guinness!

yabadabado

KCross wrote: »

In the last 3mins or so of the stream (1:08:00) he mentioned ireland going CO2 neutral! Where did he get that from?

He probably asked some politicians.

Are you guys going to be CO2 neutral?

Of course ,we will have it sorted out shortly.

Shefwedfan

yabadabado wrote: »

He probably asked some politicians.

Are you guys going to be CO2 neutral?

Of course ,we will have it sorted out shortly.

Didn't we flog off all our government shares in non-renewable industries or something....I would guess that is what he is refering to

yabadabado

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Didn't we flog off all our government shares in non-renewable industries or something....I would guess that is what he is refering to

We were supposed to sell off the 300m shares Gov. owned but not sure they have.

Shefwedfan

yabadabado wrote: »

We were supposed to sell off the 300m shares Gov. owned but not sure they have.

The lads must have got some money from the Germans to keep the country afloat and told them it was to go CO2 neutral.....whatever you do say anything:p:p:p:p


Maybe that is the 3 billion to pay for a bit of broacband for a farmer in Kerry

Irishjg

Hi everyone, just new to boards and this thread.

Irishjg

If I pre order the id3 will VW take my car as a trade in against it. I apologize if this seems a stupid question.

SaintsYB

Irishjg wrote: »

If I pre order the id3 will VW take my car as a trade in against it. I apologize if this seems a stupid question.

As far as I know, they will take it as a trade in similar to what they'd do if you were buying a Golf or Polo.

Irishjg

SaintsYB wrote: »

As far as I know, they will take it as a trade in similar to what they'd do if you were buying a Golf or Polo.

That’s great to know. Many thanks for your reply.

Mc-BigE

My PCP is up in Jan 2021( vw bank with seat), do you think I could postpone my delivery until 2021 if I reserve a first edition now?

McGiver

SaintsYB wrote:

As far as I know, they will take it as a trade in similar to what they'd do if you were buying a Golf or Polo.

How do they evaluate the value of the traded in car?

Mike9832

McGiver wrote: »

How do they evaluate the value of the traded in car?

Look at how eager you are :pac:

Serious question, besides the likes of Ferrari etc

Has this deposit thing ever happened in the car industry for pleb cars at this scale?

Or was it Tesla that introduced it?

SaintsYB

McGiver wrote: »

How do they evaluate the value of the traded in car?

I'm not sure how exactly car trade-ins are valued. A combination of market value, mileage and general condition of the car I imagine.

Mike9832 wrote: »

Serious question, besides the likes of Ferrari etc

Has this deposit thing ever happened in the car industry for pleb cars at this scale?

Or was it Tesla that introduced it?

I've heard of it happening for some special edition cars that aren't Ferrari/Porsche sort of level. I know of people in the UK who placed deposits for cars like the Mini GP which will be a limited edition. It's not a pleb car but it's on Ferrari level either.

yabadabado

McGiver wrote: »

How do they evaluate the value of the traded in car?

I presume it will be the same as any other trade in .Salespeople will make a decision.

The issue I see is will some garages be more eager to give better trade in price and how does that work with having to nominate a dealership?

DrPhilG

eagerv wrote: »

I would like fabric seats like in the i3. Don't really need leather.

Wanna swap? My only regret in the i3 is that I didn't get leather seats. Too damn impatient to wait and keep looking so I nabbed one that had everything else I wanted.

Shefwedfan

McGiver wrote: »

How do they evaluate the value of the traded in car?

I would guess the same as they evaluate now, just a guide from market prices and then give price

The issue might be will they give a better trade in if you walk in off the street to buy ID.3 later in year compared to reservation version?

Shefwedfan

Mc-BigE wrote: »

My PCP is up in Jan 2021( vw bank with seat), do you think I could postpone my delivery until 2021 if I reserve a first edition now?

No, you take delivery when it’s ready

Contact VW now, they can take back a PCP early

Silent Running

I'll cancel my reservation if VW Ireland go all Korean and cut the spec. I want the Max spec and I don't mind paying for it.

Shefwedfan

Silent Running wrote: »

I'll cancel my reservation if VW Ireland go all Korean and cut the spec. I want the Max spec and I don't mind paying for it.

If you look at the eGolf, the spec is decent on the base model before you even look at extras

i would hope they know the market and not try to cheap out on spec or it will be a big no from me and I think 90% of people on reserve list


It was interesting about the question on making money from the 1st edition. It is widely reported they are losing money on these cars. When asked the question it was kind of laughed off and then talked about the ID in general...


Maybe VW are taking a 2-3k hit on all these cars. In reality 2-3k is tiny if you consider the advertisement they will get from people driving the cars around just as they go into full launch

Silent Running

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If you look at the eGolf, the spec is decent on the base model before you even look at extras

i would hope they know the market and not try to cheap out on spec or it will be a big no from me and I think 90% of people on reserve list


It was interesting about the question on making money from the 1st edition. It is widely reported they are losing money on these cars. When asked the question it was kind of laughed off and then talked about the ID in general...


Maybe VW are taking a 2-3k hit on all these cars. In reality 2-3k is tiny if you consider the advertisement they will get from people driving the cars around just as they go into full launch

Yeah, when asked about the profit on the 1st edition, he started saying that they are a business.... I said uh oh here we go... then he said that the ID3 will make profit over it's production run. Saying, in not so many words that the launch edition is a loss leader.

My local dealer has been told that the car will have "a very high spec". Let's hope that translates into top spec. After all, VW have to get the top gadgets out there to be seen and talked about.

Shefwedfan

Silent Running wrote: »

Yeah, when asked about the profit on the 1st edition, he started saying that they are a business.... I said uh oh here we go... then he said that the ID3 will make profit over it's production run. Saying, in not so many words that the launch edition is a loss leader.

My local dealer has been told that the car will have "a very high spec". Let's hope that translates into top spec. After all, VW have to get the top gadgets out there to be seen and talked about.

To be honest it will help that it is done via the dealer network. Just for small things like software updates until OTA is available, it will be easier to get them to do with 30k+ gone through the books than if they are just a delivery site

Fitz2011

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If you look at the eGolf, the spec is decent on the base model before you even look at extras

i would hope they know the market and not try to cheap out on spec or it will be a big no from me and I think 90% of people on reserve list


It was interesting about the question on making money from the 1st edition. It is widely reported they are losing money on these cars. When asked the question it was kind of laughed off and then talked about the ID in general...


Maybe VW are taking a 2-3k hit on all these cars. In reality 2-3k is tiny if you consider the advertisement they will get from people driving the cars around just as they go into full launch

If they are making a loss on them will VW ask dealers to squeeze trade in allowances to make up for the loss? This is my biggest fear. My current car will be 3 year old in January. I hope they don’t try screw me on the trade in value of it. Also can you change to a different VW dealer if they offer you a better deal? Or do you have to stay with the dealer you first picked?

Mc-BigE

Shefwedfan wrote: »

No, you take delivery when it’s ready

Contact VW now, they can take back a PCP early

Thanks, but the ID.3 wont be available until summer of 2020 (6 months left in PCP by then), why contact them now?

Im hoping they would re-finance the remaining PCP onto the ID.3

but i suppose my question is, would i be better off getting the first edition and surrender the remaining PCP or wait for the 2nd (and possiblly cheaper) I.D.3 run of production?

would i get a 2nd production run I.D.3 in time for January 2021

Mupchease

Shefwedfan wrote: »

One thing I don't like about the eGolf is the seats seem to lave marks very easy. Even water. End up getting it cleaned regular. My OCD kicks in.


I think I am looking for too much if I could get leather seats

I haven’t found that issue in the new model with leather seats so if they choose the same type of seat it would be nice in my opinion.

Water John

Whether they are making a profit or loss depends mostly on how they amortise R & D. How many years is the core project development going to be written off over?
This in reality is an accounting exercise.

Shefwedfan

Water John wrote: »

Whether they are making a profit or loss depends mostly on how they amortise R & D. How many years is the core project development going to be written off over?
This in reality is an accounting exercise.

The whole point of the MEB is that it is a platform that they can fire out over multiple different kinds of cars without having to do R&D. So over the platform life they will see huge profits.


I think with the 1st Edition they are potentially willing to take a hit on some of the features to get the car into the market. So lets say the Reservation model costs 35k into the hand, but if you go to buy the same spec once the general release is in place then it would be nearly 40k.....


Now I could be wrong but that seems to be the suggestion on some websites....

Shefwedfan

IT is worth discussing the base model. Many many pages ago I mentioned that potentially VW would have a very base model. This seems to come true with the 30k car they mentioned. That price is before any government incentives.

By the sounds of the discussion this is really low spec but will anyone buy? like I said before you rock into VW and ask for base model at Xk, VW dealer says yeah no problem that is 12 week wait or you can buy this model at X+3k and it has the sat nav on it. Sure you need a sat nav to find the chargers.....this is the same practise with the combustion engine Golfs etc.....

It is good to see they have the ability to produce a low cost BEV

drunkmonkey

I've a GTi and I've never used the VW sat nav, no need for it with android auto, that's also getting revamped this year.

WattsUp

Looks like VW Ireland still taking booking deposits. Anyone know how many units were allocated to Ireland ?

Mike9832

This thread sounds eerily similar to something I have seen before, hmmmm

What is it?

Oh yeah the Tesla Model 3 thread

Alot of speculation and high hopes, high fives and hugs all around, the €35,000 wonder car, all of us putting down €1000 euro deposits and celebration

I'm all for positivity and hope, but some of ye might be need to calm it down, as that hope could be destroyed in 12 months time

HUD
VW selling at a loss
1st edition being an example to the world
VW free advertising

Guys this is big auto, stay skeptical or else setting yourselves up for disappointment

Don't keep all eggs in one basket here waiting on VW to deliver , ye might miss an opportunity on other good EV's coming out like Ioniq 38kWh , Peugeot e208 etc

Mupchease

20rothmans wrote: »

Looks like VW Ireland still taking booking deposits. Anyone know how many units were allocated to Ireland ?

After bottling it at first and deciding Id (see what I done there) wait until the end of my pcp I just put a deposit down on one so it’s definitely still open to anybody interested.

Silent Running

20rothmans wrote: »

Looks like VW Ireland still taking booking deposits. Anyone know how many units were allocated to Ireland ?

Dealer told me 200.

Phibsboro

Silent Running wrote: »

Dealer told me 200.

Is that just for boardsies?! Based on the launch thread I can't imagine they have actually restricted Irish reservations to 200...