2008 Civic 1.8

JohnBoy26

from_atozinc wrote: »

so it should keep going grand for another few years

Well they are a very reliable car but if you are in doubt you could get the basic service items replaced like the oil and filters. If you plan on changing the gearbox oil make sure you replace it with the genuine oil from honda.

For the engine any oil that meets the spec will do.

from_atozinc

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Well they are a very reliable car but if you are in doubt you could get the basic service items replaced like the oil and filters. If you plan on changing the gearbox oil make sure you replace it with the genuine oil from honda.

For the engine any oil that meets the spec will do.

Thanks.

Anybody else on here own this exact type of car.

Petrol 1.8 Saloon automatic

from_atozinc

grogi wrote: »

I think you're fooling yourself that you'd get 3500 for that 523i...

What do ye think the 523i is worth ?

from_atozinc

from_atozinc wrote: »

Thanks.

Anybody else on here own this exact type of car.

Petrol 1.8 Saloon automatic

Bump

from_atozinc

from_atozinc wrote: »

What a really positive ad, fills me with confidence

"The car seems to drive very well and everything seems to do what it should "

https://www.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-2008-nct-07-19/18743135

Anyone any more thoughts on this car?

227,000 km on it. A lot.

Toyotafanboi

It looks honest. If you buy it for between €2500-2750 you'll be getting a very good deal and if you make any effort to maintain it you could put that mileage again on it pretty comfortably.

from_atozinc

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

It looks honest. If you buy it for between €2500-2750 you'll be getting a very good deal and if you make any effort to maintain it you could put that mileage again on it pretty comfortably.

Thanks. When you say honest, do you mean it just looks in ok nick etc ?

bazz26

OP, you know that car is being sold as a trade sale?

CiniO

What does that mean?

from_atozinc

bazz26 wrote: »

OP, you know that car is being sold as a trade sale?

didnt know that
but, as cinio says, what does that mean in lehmans terms

colm_mcm

It means they’re telling you in advance that they won’t stand over it if it goes wrong. I’d much prefer a private sale where you gauge the car from the seller and not in a situation where the salesman is more experienced at selling than you are at buying.

Good example. When I bought my civic I bought it from the woman who had it for 4 years and was able to tell me about what maintenance was done when I asked. I knew from her demeanour and her house that she was the type of person you’d want to have owned the car.

A seasoned salesperson will have heard all the hard questions daily for years and will have mastered the art of deflecting your concerns. When they know they’re not giving any sort of warranty there’s no incentive to be honest with you. They’re not gonna say “look I just bought this on Merlin auction for €750 and I’m gonna flip it and make a handy €1250 profit out of this. I don’t know anything about the car never mind care”

from_atozinc

colm_mcm wrote: »

It means they’re telling you in advance that they won’t stand over it if it goes wrong. I’d much prefer a private sale where you gauge the car from the seller and not in a situation where the salesman is more experienced at selling than you are at buying.

Good example. When I bought my civic I bought it from the woman who had it for 4 years and was able to tell me about what maintenance was done when I asked. I knew from her demeanour and her house that she was the type of person you’d want to have owned the car.

oh ok, so could be a lemon and more a less stay away ? (for a private buyer)

colm_mcm

It could be a great car. That’s the chance you take. Trade sale doesn't automatically mean the garage knows it’s gonna be trouble, just that they won’t entertain any moaning if there’s an issue.


My point is it’s harder to tell what the car is really like when dealing with a garage. If they’re not giving any comeback then why not just buy privately?

The other side of it is that the country is hardly awash with used automatic saloon civics so your options might be limited. Treat it as a private sale, do your homework and bring someone who can give it the once over

bazz26

I wonder how much they gave the previous owner for it.

from_atozinc

colm_mcm wrote: »

It could be a great car. That’s the chance you take. Trade sale doesn't automatically mean the garage knows it’s gonna be trouble, just that they won’t entertain any moaning if there’s an issue.


My point is it’s harder to tell what the car is really like when dealing with a garage. If they’re not giving any comeback then why not just buy privately?

The other side of it is that the country is hardly awash with used automatic saloon civics so your options might be limited. Treat it as a private sale, do your homework and bring someone who can give it the once over

Yeah. I mailed the dealer and his replies are more a less that he would rather not sell me the car. Yeah, this is the thing, I haven’t got a great choice of cars

Cee-Jay-Cee

from_atozinc wrote: »

Yeah. I mailed the dealer and his replies are more a less that he would rather not sell me the car. Yeah, this is the thing, I haven’t got a great choice of cars

Can you elaborate on that? Are you saying he has more or less said there is something wrong with the car and would prefer to sell it to someone who knows what they're doing and would be in a position to fix it themselves?

bazz26

Most likely they just don't want the agro of selling a trade sale to joe public and it coming back to bite them. Trade sale by definition usually is a sale between dealers in the motor traders who know what they are at, not to joe public.

colm_mcm

bazz26 wrote: »

Most likely they just don't want the agro of selling a trade sale to joe public and it coming back to bite them. Trade sale by definition usually is a sale between dealers in the motor traders who know what they are at, not to joe public.

I’d say the OP was asking too many questions. That’s a retail price they’re asking.
They’ll wait for some fool who will just buy it without doing any due dil.

bazz26

Was thinking 3k was very strong money given it's a trade sale alright, doubt they bought it for anywhere near that. The "trade sale, sold as seen" bit in the advert is never a good sign.

JohnBoy26

bazz26 wrote: »

Was thinking 3k was very strong money given it's a trade sale alright, doubt they bought it for anywhere near that. The "trade sale, sold as seen" bit in the advert is never a good sign.

Exactly. While there might be no issues with the car you'd have to wonder why the have put that in the ad. If the car was cheap it would be more understandable but it's not cheap considering these aren't going for big money these days.

lawred2

colm_mcm wrote: »

They’ll do 300k no bother

Had one of them. Uninspiring but reliable as hell. Never cost me anything.

The 1.8 is relatively expensive to tax though if I remember.

JohnBoy26

lawred2 wrote: »

Had one of them. Uninspiring but reliable as hell. Never cost me anything.

The 1.8 is relatively expensive to tax though if I remember.

On the saloon and on the 3dr it's €570 on the co2 rates. On the 5dr it's €390 on the co2 rates. This is for the manual. Not sure about the auto.

On the cc rates all are €636.

lawred2

Had the saloon

from_atozinc

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Can you elaborate on that? Are you saying he has more or less said there is something wrong with the car and would prefer to sell it to someone who knows what they're doing and would be in a position to fix it themselves?

no, he didn't say specifically that anything waswrong with the car.
i just asked him a couple of basic q's , how many services stamped in book, does car have Bluetooth etc.

He said car had no service book and then that this pretty normal for an irish car, asked him was car running ok, said it seems to be , but need to examine myself no guarantee or warranty and then that he generally gets non Dublin based dealers replying to these type ads. weird thing to tell me, but whatever.

more a less did nothing to try and sell the car or make it sound any way decent.
Essentially, the opposite of a sales man.

grogi

from_atozinc wrote: »

more a less did nothing to try and sell the car or make it sound any way decent.
Essentially, the opposite of a sales man.

When a salesman acts like a salesman, it's wrong. He is pushing, seems dishonest etc... But when salesman doesn't act like a salesman, it's wrong too...

from_atozinc

grogi wrote: »

When a salesman acts like a salesman, it's wrong. He is pushing, seems dishonest etc... But when salesman doesn't act like a salesman, it's wrong too...

not saying anything is wrong.
every dealings ive had with car saleman, they have tried to sell me a car, make it sound ok, this lad just had no interest at all in selling it

Inviere

Just to piggyback somewhat, what are the differences between a Civic Hybrid & a Honda Insight of the same vintage?

colm_mcm

Inviere wrote: »

Just to piggyback somewhat, what are the differences between a Civic Hybrid & a Honda Insight of the same vintage?

Mechanically they’re the same basic thing. The Civic is more conventional in that it’s pretty much a regular Civic with a hybrid system. The Insight is a hybrid only model.
In my opinion the Insight is like a cut price Mk2 Prius, it’s styled to look like an obvious hybrid, but in my opinion it feels flimsy compared to the Civic.

from_atozinc

grogi wrote: »

When a salesman acts like a salesman, it's wrong. He is pushing, seems dishonest etc... But when salesman doesn't act like a salesman, it's wrong too...

Ad is gone now.

Toyotafanboi

Probably sold. At face value it looked like an ok car for ok money.

from_atozinc

hi

thoughts on this car:

https://www.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/2008-honda-civic/18596560

colm_mcm

It’s not the same one again is it.

Cee-Jay-Cee

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s not the same one again is it.

wasn't the other one a gold/brown coloured car?

from_atozinc

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s not the same one again is it.

Don’t think so. Both were ads on done deal a few days ago and have been for a while.

colm_mcm

Price is a bit strong in my opinion considering it has more mileage, but I think it’s worth a look, and if the seller is the owner then that’s worth a lot. You’ve more chance of knocking a chunk of money off with a private seller because they’re making a loss on what they bought it for years ago anyway!

bazz26

That car is due it's NCT on 2/7/18. Seller is dreaming if they think they will get anywhere near 3.5k with practically no test and that mileage.

from_atozinc

bazz26 wrote: »

That car is due it's NCT on 2/7/18. Seller is dreaming if they think they will get anywhere near 3.5k with practically no test and that mileage.

What’s a realistic price. 2500

colm_mcm

Talk to him and see what the plan is re NCT, You should ideally be buying with test.

from_atozinc

from_atozinc wrote: »

Anyone any more thoughts on this car?

227,000 km on it. A lot.

and around we go, car gone and now a new ad up again with same car

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-auto/18882312

probably bought it from the trade sale lad for 2300 and now looking to make a few hundred quid.

JohnBoy26

from_atozinc wrote: »

and around we go, car gone and now a new ad up again with same car

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-auto/18882312

probably bought it from the trade sale lad for 2300 and now looking to make a few hundred quid.

Still it's €800 cheaper than it was and has a new test.

from_atozinc

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Still it's €800 cheaper than it was and has a new test.

previous seller had it up for 2995, now its 2695. so 300

i think the last one had the test too, remember seeing the NCT docs

JohnBoy26

from_atozinc wrote: »

previous seller had it up for 2995, now its 2695. so 300

i think the last one had the test too, remember seeing the NCT docs

Sorry I had nixed it up with the last one you posted for €3500

colm_mcm

from_atozinc wrote: »

and around we go, car gone and now a new ad up again with same car

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-auto/18882312

probably bought it from the trade sale lad for 2300 and now looking to make a few hundred quid.

More likely it hadn’t changed hands at all.

from_atozinc

colm_mcm wrote: »

More likely it hadn’t changed hands at all.

Yeah. Wonder is it worth a look. Or should I just stay clear with all the messing going on, suspicious etc.

colm_mcm

I would avoid it like the plague.

bazz26

There is more to that car than meets the eye.

from_atozinc

bazz26 wrote: »

There is more to that car than meets the eye.

How do you mean? Just pure dodge?

bazz26

Car originally advertised as trade sale/sold as seen. You enquire, ask questions and they get the impression they don't want to sell it to you. Then the ad is taken down and a few days later it pops up as a private sale.

Honestly how many more red flags does one need?

colm_mcm

More red flags than a bullfighting convention.

from_atozinc

bazz26 wrote: »

That car is due it's NCT on 2/7/18. Seller is dreaming if they think they will get anywhere near 3.5k with practically no test and that mileage.

Mmm. It’s dropped to 2900.
I know car is 10 years old. But is a car with 163,000 miles just waiting for things to go wrong even more so.