La Flamme Rouge **off topic discussion**

magicbastarder

https://mobile.twitter.com/cyclistie/status/1554140669551198208

She really could just have declined the request to ask.

Seth Brundle

She also has this PQ...

https://twitter.com/davidtobin100/status/1554146731796963328?t=fqobFAd65VVbCMJ_m_YBvA&s=19

As one of my TDs, I'm disappointed to read these questions from her and will defo mention it when she comes knocking for votes

magicbastarder

i wouldn't mind if she was asking whether insurance providers would provide insurance, but the use of 'regularise' in that question makes me very suspicious.

loyatemu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119415834#Comment_119415834

I don't see why not- if you can have a eScooter with a throttle, why wouldn't you be allowed have an eBike with a throttle. Assuming the 25km/h limit still applies there shouldn't be any additional requirements (stupid SocDem brain-waves notwithstanding).

"Speed Pedelecs" (i.e. faster than 25km/h) are a different matter.

cletus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119418945#Comment_119418945

The answer above states that escooters will have a separate class, e-bikes are still analogous to normal bikes, and that non pedal assist bikes will also have a separate class, that requires registration, insurance etc as a mechanically propelled vehicle.

I'm not saying it shouldn't happen, just that I was unaware that it was part of the proposal

smacl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119414341#Comment_119414341

Depends on the make of bike. Ones with larger wheels such as the Montague come in multiple sizes, e.g. https://www.montaguebikes.com/product/allston/

Seth Brundle

I know there is a liking here of gate photos so...

https://twitter.com/LoveofCycling/status/1554222272839159810

Not sure if rust might be a slight issue.

More from that twitter thread...

https://twitter.com/Cycling_Imp/status/1554464278840856576

https://twitter.com/chuck_barrineau/status/1554463725926621184

tomasrojo

I used to post occasional home recordings of classical/classical-adjacent guitar in the old off-topic threads, so what the hell, somebody might enjoy this modest new one. (Bit of mains hum. I can't figure out what device, where, is causing it.)

David's Song, for guitar and "woodwind" (see if you can guess what "woodwind" is).

http://www.dermotryan.ie/misc/david.mp3

Squidgy Black

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424041#Comment_119424041

Is that an oboe?

tomasrojo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424441#Comment_119424441

No, but I'm really glad it seems a possibility to the listener! That was the ballpark I was aiming at.

It's a telecaster played with an e-bow. If you play it a particular way, it sounds breathy and (hopefully) expressive. You have to mute the adjacent strings like crazy though, and keep moving the e-bow away from the string and back in again when changing notes. It's quite a good effect though, I think. Allows me record some of the many guitar/flute guitar/violin arrangements there are out there anyway. (Provided the flute or violin part isn't too busy). I have three more lined up to record. I just never knew anyone to record them with before, but I guess I can just do them myself through the miracle of multi-tracking in Audacity.

magicbastarder

(Bit of mains hum. I can't figure out what device, where, is causing it.)

have you tried the bottom bracket?

tomasrojo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424538#Comment_119424538

This is the best joke I'll hear today

magicbastarder

i seriously doubt that

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424041#Comment_119424041

That was immensely relaxing.

magicbastarder

i had heard not heard of an e-bow (bar 'e-bow the letter' by REM and patti smith) before now. the concept is not related to the infinite guitar used by the edge?

I preferred the Jimmy Page method, though hard to bow individual strings on a guitar as they aren't configured with that in mind. As for the Edge I think that was just a sustain effect built into the guitar wasn't it? With or Without You comes to mind.

Weepsie

EBow used on Don't Fear The Reaper. The edge used it on the unforgettable fire and Ed OBrien has used it on a decent number of Radiohead tracks that Johnny Greenwood probably got the credit for

tomasrojo

Yeah, it's very similar to the Infinite Guitar. The Edge seems to use an e-bow to do the sustain in With or Without in concert. There are commercial guitars with built-in "infinite" sustain now, like the Moog Guitar (I think they only made about three Infinite Guitars), but the e-bow is much cheaper, and for single-line passages, it does the job, and gives you the flexibility to do, for example, the breathy articulation I was trying for there.

Sustain is a really cool effect in it's own right, am I right in thinking it came from the pedals on a piano as a concept for a guitar effect pedal?

tomasrojo

Not sure where it came from, though imagine the trend in the 60s to seek feedback effects instead of doing everything you could to avoid them had something to do with it.

The piano sustain pedal is different, I guess, in that the note is still attack/decay rather than a swell, and it doesn't help the note to last longer than if you just held down the key, but it does allow you to release the key and keep the dampers at bay, so you can have a lot of strings resonating. That's my understanding anyway. Woodwind, bowed strings and organs give you genuine sustain.

It never occurred to me that pedals for guitars as a general concept might have drawn inspiration from piano pedals, but sounds convincing to me!

tomasrojo

I should say I'm far from an expert on electric guitars, so take what I say with a pinch of salt.

The internet now we can see how things get played and youtube has a cover of everything with all the info we need. I only got back into playing during lock down after 15 years or so of not playing at all. If I could have seen how some guys actually played back in the day I'd never have tried or I'd have been much better. Like Les Claypool of Primus, impossible for me to replicate him as I can see now how the guy really plays, he has big hands and uses 5 and 6 string basses with necks not much wider than a guitar so he can mute c's and b's with his thumb and is a big part of his technique.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119426017#Comment_119426017

Seems that the bridge pickup in the infinite guitar kept the string vibrating, while the other two were normal pickups, so probably quite similar to the e-bow.

devonp

saw Kim Gordon of SY use a bow to make some Sounds !! at a gig in Camden back in the day...if ur a fan of NY noise type stuff

tomasrojo

There was an odd gadget invented by Godley &Creme that had revolving wheels that rubbed the strings, like a hurdy-gurdy. Could play sustained chords and polyphonic lines and allowed you to approximate a string section using a guitar before synthesizers made that easier. Called a gizmotron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPBJMq6jI-c

magicbastarder

mentioned the e-bow to a musician friend of mine, and he said taping two together is great fun, allows you to play chords.

anyway, for the weight weenies:

https://twitter.com/InterestingsAsF/status/1555502525587288064

tomasrojo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119434825#Comment_119434825

Yes, was thinking of overlaying lines to make chords in one section of another piece. I did something similar to create chords in harmonics in another recording (3:40 and the end):

http://www.dermotryan.ie/music/microphone_recordings/ave_maria.mp3

(I think it's great that you can now do multitracking at home for almost nothing. For decades it was studio magic, though I guess there were small four-track machines musicians used for home demos.)

Luxman

I’m not the better after hearing a cyclist in collision with a car in templemore town earlier. Chap was in pain looked like a few people knew what to do. Bike frame was smashed. Father in law saw it and is in shock. I called the ambulance which was about 10 mins to the scene. Hopefully nothing serious Mike. Some club mates appeared soon after too. Speedy recovery.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119436375#Comment_119436375

i'm old enough and grumpy enough to take the line that if you make things too easy, people stop having to try hard to produce (insert form of creativity/art) and you lose some spark. e.g. i'm glad i learned photography when i had as few as 12 shots per roll, and each shot cost about a quid; you had to try hard and make each one count. my friend i mentioned earlier, who teaches music production, i think disagrees to a certain extent that the same concept would port across to music.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119436910#Comment_119436910

any word?