Late Late Show April 27th

Hotblack Desiato

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Perhaps they have a 2 bed apartment and 2 kids would be too many, housing crisis and that or they want a boy so he could play football and don't need the girl...this is the way the world has now gone.

Get a grip pal.

DickSwiveller

Try_harder wrote: »

Yes but these laws are not black and white so morals are not absolute

Are we imposing morals on others by making the intentional killing of another person illegal?

Try_harder

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Especially if the bollix is breaking in to your house at 2am.

Good we have established that their isnt an absolute right to life then

Atlantic Dawn

Should we close off post from outside Ireland to stop the pills?

Hotblack Desiato

Uncharted wrote: »

Who determined the panellists? Woefully lob sided at first impression. Iv heard nothing of substance from the no side.

There's a reason for that...

amdublin

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Another stupid argument. Should we legalize heroin because it's legal in some other country?

That wasn't my point at all.

My point is that is what is happening. And that is what will continue to happen.

Just so we can say "oh there's no abortuon in ireland"

Complete farce

RobertKK

So all we need to do is regulate all activities that humans do that are currently illegal, since being illegal doesn't stop it.

Have a day for a purge, like in the movie series....

Atlantic Dawn

This is the worst debate setup ever, it's like the Valentines Night special when he was having the cosy chat with the olden folks.

NAGDEFI

Try_harder wrote: »

Most no voters arent in the Boards demographic

Exactly. The boards is not so much an age demographic as a certain type of person, myself included, who post on such sites.

We get all ages on here as we do people who never post.

Try_harder

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Are we imposing morals on others by making the intentional killing of another person illegal?

We have laws that make unintentional killing illegal also.

Stark

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

She died of sepsis which only developed because she didn't get the abortion she needed and requested, but hey, "Ireland is a catholic country" :rolleyes:

/recites another decade of the "Savita died of sepsis, antibiotics would have saved her" Rosary.

DickSwiveller

amdublin wrote: »

That wasn't my point at all.

My point is that is what is happening. And that is what will continue to happen.

Just so we can say "oh there's no abortuon in ireland"

Complete farce

People are using heroin in Ireland. It's not an argument.

amdublin

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Should we close off post from outside Ireland to stop the pills?

We could always just repeal the 8th so we can legislate.
So that abortion is available when needed.

donkeykong5

Try_harder wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

He has been forced to leave his home he lived in with his wife for many years. His wife is not well. They are both in their latter years. He defended himself and his wife against a burglar holding a screwdriver intent on robbing their money and possession.. because that man killed the perpetrator who has numerous convictions for burglary his life and his wife's has been made complete hell. Disgraceful.

So murder isnt always wrong then

When the elderly man and his ill wife went to bed in their own home. If some scumbag who is known to target elderly people and terrorise and Rob them came off worse for a change. Then of course it's not murder. It's self defence.

Berserker

RobertKK wrote: »

At least legalised cigarettes stopped illegal cigarettes being bought.

Along similar lines, a guard friend of mine always laugh at the notion that legalising drugs will put the gangs that smuggle drugs in here at the moment out of business.

DickSwiveller

Try_harder wrote: »

We have laws that make unintentional killing illegal also.

What is your point? You were giving out about pro lifers imposing their morals on other; my point is we impose our morals on people all the time through the law.

Try_harder

NAGDEFI wrote: »

Exactly. The boards is not so much an age demographic as a certain type of person, myself included, who post on such sites.

We get all ages on here as we do people who never post.

Id say boards is largely Male 20-40 third level educatied

Not representative of society at all

qwerty ui op

Answer the question wendy

Hotblack Desiato

NAGDEFI wrote: »

I'm voting No as I feel it will save more lives and overall be the best outcome.

You want to force women to be pregnant when they don't want to be and then force the trauma of unwanted birth upon them.

What a hero.

RobertKK

The Irish state gave an abortion to a Traveller girl who was sexually abused, and she said the abortion was worse than the rape.

IP freely

The "no" speakers are really not speaking well at all. Their inability to answer a straight question is admirable though.

gmisk

Rhona Mahony (master of national maternity hospital) is in favour of repeal.... So that lady on the save the 8th has downright lied there horrendous

amdublin

DickSwiveller wrote: »

People are using heroin in Ireland. It's not an argument.

??

What's heroin got to do with women who require an abortion because of things like ffa, rape, crisis pregnancy

Uncharted

#Ibelievehim

mzungu

A lot of waffle from the No side with that audience question. Saying loads but saying nothing at all.

Stark

DickSwiveller wrote: »

People are using heroin in Ireland. It's not an argument.

And we're finally getting out **** together and setting up supervised injection centres instead of doing our usual crap of "oh let's just make it illegal and hope it goes away" while in the meantime the addicts are shooting themselves up on the quays in front of children.

Atlantic Dawn

You will have to go through 3 doctors for opinion to approve an abortion, bloody joke, should be just a Yes or No choice if you want an abortion.

Try_harder

DickSwiveller wrote: »

What is your point? You were giving out about pro lifers imposing their morals on other; my point is we impose our morals on people all the time through the law.

But one grouping alone cant impose their morals on everyone thats authoritarian not democratic

Berserker

amdublin wrote: »

We could always just repeal the 8th so we can legislate.
So that abortion is available when needed.

The pills are going to be far more expensive here, just like every other form of medication. People will still buy them abroad.

Jeff2

And for every woman in the oudianse a free return trip to England thanks to air lingus.

sudzs

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Should we close off post from outside Ireland to stop the pills?

Haha, I remember the days when youd buy Cosmo or Marie Claire and a lot of the ads at the back of the mags were blanked out. They were the ads for Marie Stokes etc.... Mad!

BorneTobyWilde

Lack of value and morals lead to 99% of the pregnancies. They're acting like every unwanted pregnancy was through rape.

retro:electro

Way to make a woman’s personal circumstances all about yourself Mr GP.

DickSwiveller

Try_harder wrote: »

But one grouping alone cant impose their morals on everyone thats authoritarian not democratic

Forget it. I don't think you get my point.

Try_harder

donkeykong5 wrote: »

When the elderly man and his ill wife went to bed in their own home. If some scumbag who is known to target elderly people and terrorise and Rob them came off worse for a change. Then of course it's not murder. It's self defence.

In all circumstances? Surely it would depend on the force used and how

Try_harder

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Lack of value and morals lead to 99% of the pregnancies. They're acting like every unwanted pregnancy was through rape.

Blessed be

DickSwiveller

retro:electro wrote: »

Way to make a woman’s personal circumstances all about yourself Mr GP.

There's a baby involved, no matter how you want to dehumanise it.

Arghus

The woman in the Red Dress is talking utter scour.

Galego

RobertKK wrote: »

The Irish state gave an abortion to a Traveller girl who was sexually abused, and she said the abortion was worse than the rape.

How?

RobertKK

The Yes woman didn't address the problem the doctor raised, which will be require doctors against abortion to send the woman to another doctor and therefore complicit in the abortion.

Atlantic Dawn

sudzs wrote: »

Haha, I remember the days when youd buy Cosmo or Marie Claire and a lot of the ads at the back of the mags were blanked out. They were the ads for Marie Stokes etc.... Mad!

That's the ultra kip we lived in, it was up there with living in Russia, a few corrupt scrotes having their way, thank feck for the internet to expose these villans.

NAGDEFI

Stark wrote: »

/recites another decade of the "Savita died of sepsis, antibiotics would have saved her" Rosary.

Posts like this are typical of the so called liberals. They mock others' beliefs. You can't say you're a practising Catholic without ridicule. We don't condone child abuse. We abhor the many scandals but we believe in the message of Christ, imperfectly implemented by mankind. But we have a right not to be ridiculed.

Try_harder

sudzs wrote: »

Haha, I remember the days when youd buy Cosmo or Marie Claire and a lot of the ads at the back of the mags were blanked out. They were the ads for Marie Stokes etc.... Mad!

Books couldnt refer to abortion either or they were banned before 1992

BorneTobyWilde

Try_harder wrote: »

Blessed be

Church, Pub, Drink, Sex, ooops

Repeat

Church, Pub, Drink, Sex, ooops

An Ri rua

People will vote as they see fit. We live in a country of dullards at this moment.
Dev's oppression is gone but we still have ****birds as a majority who are all rights and no responsibility.
Forget your sentimentalism. Life is life. Life hurts. Its cruel and harsh. But no matter what, life must live. Pro choice is a navel gazing exercise. You can dress it up how you want. The only instance where I can see termination being justified is where a foetus is dead. Anything else is taking of life. At least if the legislation sanctioned it as such, as in USA where the state murders humans, then it would be legally sound. But to deny its the taking of LIFE is absurd and abhorrent.
I should provide a caveat that I'm a vegan and view all life as sacred and regret when I've killed it accidentally.
And the ironic laughable part is that so many vegans are leftie pro-choice. The mind boggles. We need a Spanish civil war type anarchic melee.
May the best man (oops! Sentient being) win...

Try_harder

NAGDEFI wrote: »

Posts like this are typical of the so called liberals. They mock others' beliefs. You can't say you're a practising Catholic without ridicule. We don't condone child abuse. We abhor the many scandals but we believe in the message of Christ, imperfectly implemented by mankind. But we have a right not to be ridiculed.

But you cannot impose your religious beliefs on others and dress it up as a humanitarian act

amdublin

Berserker wrote: »

The pills are going to be far more expensive here, just like every other form of medication. People will still buy them abroad.

The medication is safe. But in the event that something goes wrong e.g. excessive bleeding the woman in ireland cannot currently reveal to their health care provider they took the pills because they're illegal. If the 8th was repealed and legislated for it the pills would not be illegal

Larbre34

Galego wrote: »

How?

Dont mind how. Ask him for a source for the story first.

BorneTobyWilde

Mormon country haven't this problem with unwanted pregnancies.

mzungu

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Lack of value and morals lead to 99% of the pregnancies. They're acting like every unwanted pregnancy was through rape.

Ah jaysus. What exactly do you mean by "lack of value and morals?"